Selected quad for the lemma: woman_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
woman_n	authority_n	teach_v	usurp_v	1,644	5	10.6427	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A90624	A vindication of The preacher sent, or A vvarrant for publick preaching without ordination. Wherein is further discovered. 1. That some gifted men unordained, are Gospel preachers. 2. That officers sustain not a relation (as officers) to the universal Church; and other weighty questions concerning election and ordination, are opened and cleared. In answer to two books. 1. Vindiciæ ministrij evangelici revindicatæ or the Preacher (pretendly) sent, sent back again. By Dr. Colling of Norwich. 2. Quo warranto, or a moderate enquiry into the warrantableness of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons. By Mr. Pool, at the desire and appointment of the Provincial Assembly of London. With a reply to the exceptions of Mr. Hudson and Dr. Collings against the epistle to the preacher sent. / Published by Frederick Woodal, minister of the Gospel at Woodbridge in Suffolk. Samuel Petto minister of the GospeI [sic] at Sandcraft in Suffolk.	Woodall, Frederick, b. 1614.; Petto, Samuel, 1624?-1711.	1659 (1659)	Wing P1902; Thomason E1728_2; ESTC R204138	152,808	253

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to_o be_v a_o genere_fw-la ad_fw-la speciem_fw-la and_o whereas_o the_o apostle_n say_v they_o ought_v to_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d teacher_n mr._n pool_n will_v turn_v the_o apostle_n word_n and_o will_v have_v it_o only_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d apt_a or_o fit_a to_o teach_v if_o such_o interpretation_n of_o scripture_n may_v be_v allow_v he_o he_o may_v turn_v the_o word_n of_o god_n which_o way_n he_o will_v and_o this_o answer_v what_o he_o say_v p._n 54_o 55._o and_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_v who_o wre_v the_o scripture_n mr._n pool_n or_o we_o three_o for_o gift_a man_n preach_v in_o public_a we_o allege_v heb._n 10._o 25._o object_n if_o this_o place_n prove_v any_o thing_n to_o our_o brethren_n purpose_n it_o will_v prove_v that_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o every_o one_o gift_v or_o not_o gift_v to_o preach_v in_o the_o public_a assembly_n etc._n etc._n their_o assemble_v together_o be_v not_o the_o modification_n of_o the_o exhortation_n but_o the_o 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high_a priest_n forever_o after_o the_o order_n of_o melchisedeck_v and_o heb._n 7._o v._o 11_o 12._o 14._o 17._o after_o the_o similitude_n of_o melchisedeck_v there_o arise_v another_o priest_n ve_fw-la 15._o whence_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o apostle_n main_a scope_n drift_n and_o design_n be_v to_o set_v forth_o christ_n in_o his_o greatness_n and_o excellency_n by_o compare_v he_o with_o melchisedeck_v for_o several_a thing_n be_v speak_v of_o melchisedeck_v that_o do_v more_o proper_o belong_v unto_o christ_n then_o to_o he_o as_o he_o be_v say_v to_o be_v without_o father_n without_o mother_n and_o withuut_n beginning_n heb._n 7._o 3._o yet_o melchisadeck_n be_v a_o man_n and_o not_o god_n and_o so_o as_o to_o his_o natural_a be_v have_v a_o father_n a_o mother_n and_o a_o beginning_n and_o therefore_o these_o thing_n be_v speak_v of_o he_o as_o calvin_n say_v as_o of_o one_o clothe_v with_o the_o person_n of_o christ_n thus_o the_o apostle_n declare_v not_o only_o how_o 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be_v a_o plain_a distinction_n and_o difference_n in_o that_o very_a text_n between_o teach_v and_o usurp_a authority_n as_o nor_o do_v intimate_v ob._n 1._o it_o be_v a_o familiar_a thing_n to_o use_v a_o word_n disjoyn_v one_o thing_n from_o a_o other_o when_o indeed_o the_o one_o explain_v the_o other_o rev._n 22._o 15._o gal._n 1._o 12._o mr._n pool_n pag._n 108._o answ_n 1._o if_o sometime_o a_o word_n disjunctive_a be_v expositive_a yet_o usual_o it_o be_v not_o so_o multitude_n of_o instance_n may_v be_v give_v where_o thing_n disjoin_v by_o a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o in_o 1_o tim._n 2._o 12._o must_v be_v distinct_a one_o from_o a_o other_o 2._o the_o scripture_n he_o allege_v speak_v not_o for_o he_o rev._n 22._o 15._o use_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d which_o be_v copulative_a and_o so_o do_v not_o necessary_o disjoyne_v as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v the_o thing_n be_v distinct_a in_o gal._n 1._o 12._o i_o neither_o receive_v it_o of_o man_n neither_o be_v i_o teach_v it_o etc._n etc._n i._n e._n i_o neither_o be_v teach_v it_o by_o other_o nor_o do_v i_o learn_v it_o of_o myself_o by_o my_o own_o study_n and_o industry_n there_o be_v a_o teach_n and_o so_o a_o learning_n which_o be_v not_o by_o other_o man_n a_o self-teaching_a rom._n 2._o 21._o and_o a_o nature_n teach_v 1_o corin._n 11._o 14._o yea_o there_o be_v satanical_a teach_n which_o be_v not_o by_o man_n 3._o when_o the_o scripture_n use_v a_o disjoyn_a word_n as_o here_o it_o do_v the_o thing_n speak_v of_o be_v distinct_a unless_o where_o cogent_a reason_n enforce_v the_o contrary_a and_o what_o a_o weak_a argument_n than_o be_v it_o to_o prove_v teach_v a_o act_n of_o authority_n when_o these_o be_v disjoin_v with_o a_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o the_o very_a text_n that_o be_v produce_v for_o the_o proof_n of_o it_o viz._n 1._o tim._n 2._o 12._o ob._n 2._o on_o the_o one_o side_n of_o it_o teach_v be_v forbid_v on_o the_o other_o side_n silence_n be_v enjoin_v 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deacon_n who_o be_v not_o call_v to_o it_o mr._n pool_n take_v a_o little_a piece_n of_o our_o reply_n and_o seek_v to_o answer_v it_o with_o his_o case_n of_o necessity_n which_o we_o have_v speak_v often_o enough_o to_o our_o chief_a answer_n he_o say_v nothing_o to_o whereas_o he_o tell_v we_o of_o set_v up_o our_o own_o device_n in_o god_n worship_n pag._n 103._o we_o wish_v their_o way_n be_v not_o more_o guilty_a of_o this_o evil_n than_o we_o and_o if_o it_o be_v a_o sin_n for_o ungifted_a man_n or_o such_o as_o be_v erroneous_a to_o preach_v sure_o a_o church_n be_v to_o take_v care_n that_o its_o member_n be_v not_o guilty_a of_o it_o and_o this_o will_v amount_v to_o little_o less_o than_o a_o proof_n that_o there_o may_v be_v approbation_n without_o ordination_n our_o instance_n of_o believe_v which_o he_o mention_v pag._n 104._o prove_v that_o one_o may_v perform_v a_o work_n of_o great_a consequence_n and_o yet_o may_v not_o perform_v a_o work_n of_o less_o consequence_n and_o so_o be_v no_o fallacy_n but_o now_o he_o restrain_v it_o unto_o such_o work_n as_o relate_v to_o other_o we_o shall_v instance_n in_o private_a exhort_v this_o be_v a_o work_n of_o great_a consequence_n difficulty_n and_o danger_n than_o the_o work_n of_o magistrate_n or_o deacon_n and_o that_o for_o the_o reason_n they_o mention_v jus_fw-la divin_n min._n pag._n 87._o viz._n because_o if_o they_o miscarry_v in_o private_a exhortation_n they_o destroy_v soul_n yet_o private_a christian_n may_v do_v that_o arg._n 4._o their_o four_o argument_n be_v none_o may_v administer_v the_o sacrament_n who_o be_v uncalled_a ergo_fw-la none_o may_v preach_v who_o be_v uncalled_a for_o these_o two_o be_v join_v together_o mat._n 28._o 19_o our_o first_o reply_n to_o

that_o gal._n 1._o ver_fw-la 16_o 17._o 2._o the_o holy_a ghost_n say_v separate_v i_o barnabas_n and_o saul_n etc._n etc._n be_v a_o command_n to_o man_n to_o ordain_v and_o so_o though_o the_o call_n be_v immediate_a yet_o man_n be_v as_o proper_o ordainer_n as_o they_o be_v in_o these_o day_n act_n 8._o ver_fw-la 29._o the_o spirit_n say_v unto_o philip_n go_v near_o and_o join_v thyself_o to_o this_o chariot_n he_o may_v as_o well_o say_v that_o proper_o it_o be_v not_o philip_n but_o god_n that_o do_v go_v near_o and_o join_v to_o the_o chariot_n because_o the_o spirit_n say_v go_v etc._n etc._n or_o as_o act_v 10._o 19_o he_o may_v say_v it_o be_v god_n that_o be_v to_o arise_v &_o go_v down_o &_o not_o peter_n proper_o because_o the_o spirit_n say_v arise_v etc._n etc._n as_o he_o may_v say_v that_o proper_o god_n be_v theordain_a of_o paul_n because_o the_o holy_a ghost_n say_v separate_v i_o etc._n etc._n arg._n 3._o our_o three_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o the_o nature_n of_o ordination_n it_o consist_v in_o prayer_n etc._n etc._n ob._n 1._o if_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n do_v consist_v in_o election_n and_o prayer_n be_v use_v before_o election_n how_o can_v they_o pray_v in_o faith_n etc._n etc._n pag_n 135._o answ_n prayer_n before_o election_n be_v for_o the_o church_n direction_n into_o a_o right_a choice_n and_o so_o may_v be_v in_o faith_n though_o it_o be_v uncertain_a whether_o the_o person_n shall_v be_v choose_v or_o not_o but_o prayer_n in_o ordination_n be_v for_o a_o blessing_n upon_o a_o man_n in_o a_o work_n act_v 13._o 2_o 3._o and_o so_o a_o knowledge_n that_o a_o man_n be_v call_v to_o it_o which_o presuppose_v his_o have_v the_o essence_n of_o a_o call_n be_v necessary_a unto_o pray_v in_o faith_n there_o ob._n 2._o in_o such_o case_n our_o prayer_n have_v ae_z facit_fw-fr condition_n that_o god_n will_v bless_v he_o in_o the_o work_n if_o he_o shall_v be_v set_v apart_o for_o it_o pag._n 135._o answ_n prayer_n in_o 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without_o it_o and_o he_o will_v say_v as_o much_o for_o fast_v and_o then_o prayer_n be_v the_o essential_a act_n or_o nothing_o 2._o no_o scripture_n do_v evidence_n that_o the_o essence_n of_o ordination_n consist_v in_o any_o designation_n to_o work_v which_o be_v a_o constitutive_a office-making_a act_n neither_o have_v prayer_n or_o any_o other_o thing_n which_o belong_v to_o ordination_n a_o tendency_n to_o produce_v such_o a_o effect_n as_o our_o argument_n prove_v he_o use_v one_o argument_n to_o prove_v that_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n do_v not_o lie_v in_o the_o election_n of_o the_o people_n ob._n the_o people_n neither_o be_v nor_o by_o divine_a appointment_n be_v necessary_o require_v to_o be_v in_o a_o capacity_n to_o give_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_v to_o the_o ministry_n for_o 1._o they_o have_v no_o authority_n 2._o they_o have_v not_o ability_n to_o judge_v of_o a_o man_n fitness_n etc._n etc._n mr._n pool_n pag._n 136._o to_o 141._o answ_n the_o people_n be_v in_o a_o capacity_n to_o give_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n 1._o the_o people_n have_v as_o much_o authority_n as_o be_v necessary_a to_o their_o give_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n for_o nothing_o be_v require_v thereunto_o but_o a_o put_v themselves_o into_o subjection_n to_o a_o person_n due_o qualify_v it_o be_v a_o voluntary_a not_o a_o natural_a relation_n and_o this_o be_v do_v by_o election_n with_o acception_n for_o we_o prove_v before_o that_o these_o do_v set_v a_o man_n over_o a_o church_n he_o say_v they_o have_v no_o authority_n because_o in_o a_o state_n of_o subjection_n pag._n 139._o but_o he_o answer_v himself_o by_o his_o instance_n pag._n 138._o for_o in_o democratical_a government_n the_o people_n be_v in_o subjection_n civil_o unto_o those_o very_a officer_n to_o who_o they_o give_v a_o call_n yet_o have_v authority_n to_o call_v they_o be_v lesser_a and_o yet_o great_a than_o their_o officer_n though_o woman_n be_v present_a act_v 1._o 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plead_v for_o but_o berean_o and_o all_o that_o be_v godly_a that_o be_v believer_n &_o fit_a to_o be_v admit_v church_n member_n be_v fit_a with_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o church_n to_o judge_v of_o a_o minister_n ability_n which_o answer_v what_o he_o say_v p._n 141._o about_o its_o be_v a_o necessary_a qualification_n in_o every_o church-member_n if_o one_o church-member_n can_v not_o judge_v of_o it_o yet_o all_o together_o have_v ability_n some_o argument_n against_o election_n as_o give_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n he_o seek_v to_o vindicate_v ob._n 1._o as_o to_o act_n 6._o the_o apostle_n be_v say_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d choose_v and_o appoint_v be_v distinguish_v from_o and_o oppose_v to_o one_o another_o and_o the_o act_n of_o appoint_v be_v ascribe_v to_o the_o superior_n etc._n etc._n mr._n pool_n pag._n 142._o answ_n 1._o choose_v and_o appoint_v be_v not_o there_o oppose_v choose_v be_v unto_o office_n appoint_v be_v unto_o work_n act_v 6._o ver_fw-la 3._o who_o we_o may_v appoint_v but_o to_o what_o it_o be_v not_o say_v unto_o this_o office_n but_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o this_o business_n and_o himself_o suppose_v pag._n 132._o that_o there_o may_v be_v ordination_n to_o a_o work_n and_o yet_o the_o essence_n of_o a_o call_v not_o consist_v therein_o &_o its_o evident_a that_o ordination_n to_o a_o work_n be_v subsequent_a to_o and_o sodoth_a not_o give_v the_o essence_n of_o a_o call_v to_o office_n act_v 13._o 2._o &_o so_o neither_o of_o these_o place_n can_v prove_v in_o the_o least_o their_o position_n 2._o it_o be_v not_o clear_v that_o we_o have_v reference_n to_o the_o apostle_n seorsim_fw-la as_o if_o it_o be_v their_o work_n only_o but_o conjunctim_fw-la with_o the_o