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A45336 The pulpit guarded with XVII arguments proving the unlawfulness, sinfulness and danger of suffering private persons to take upon them publike preaching, and expounding the Scriptures without a call ... : occasioned by a dispute at Henly in Arden in Warwick-shire, Aug. 20, 1650 ... : in the close are added six arguments, to prove our ministers free from antichristianism / composed and compiled by a friend to truth and peace. Hall, Thomas, 1610-1665. 1651 (1651) Wing H437; ESTC R11676 84,387 104

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have the liberty of their Gifts and their proper denomination I think ordinary Ministers should give them the right hand of fellowship and place As for any kinde of Prophets or Prophesying in the publike Congregation belowe Ministers and their Ministery there is none to be found in any enumeration of Scripture either in Rom. 12. 1 Cor. 12. or Eph. 4. where we were most like to finde it and therefore it is still with me resolved that the Prophets and Prophesying which we read of 1 Cor. 14. was extraordinary He that believes three kindes of Prophets under the new Testament let him distinguish them Thus he I shall gather up all into a Parallel because Logick doth not please you 1. T●ose were Prophets But our gifted brethren are no Prophets 2. T●ose were Extraordinary Prophets These no● Ord●nary 3. T●ose had a spirit of Revelation Th●se of D●lusion 4. Those could dext●rously expound Prophetick Scripture Th●s● are dextrous in dark●●●ng t●em and some in d●ny●ng them The ninth Objection Rom. 12. 6 7 8. Having the● gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us whether Prophecie let us prophesie c. Hence they gather that all that have the gifts of Prophecie may pr●phe●ie c. A. 'T is granted that they who have the gift of Prophecie may prophe●ie and they that have the gift of Ministery or Deaconship must do the duty of a Deacon But who are they that have this gift They that are Prophets by Office and not those that have abilities onely as one very well observes and this will appear more fully by the context and scope of the chapter Having exhorted to duties of piety in general v 1 2. he comes v. 3 to 9. to particular duties of Ecclesiastical persons and Officers viz. That they should not be proud of their spi●itual gifts whi●h in those days abounded but to think soberly and self-denyingly of themselves 2. He sets down a disti●ct and perfect enumeration of all the standing Off●cers in the Church and exhorts them to discharge the duties of their sev●ral Functions v. 6 7 8. These Off●ces are reduced to two general heads 1. Prophecie not the extraordinary gift of foretelling future things c. but the ordinary in the right understanding and interpreting of Scripture Under this are contained first he that Teacheth i. ● the Doctor or Teacher Secondly he that exhorteth i. e. the Pastor Under Ministery are comprised 1. He that giveth i. e. the Deacon 2. He that ruleth i. e. the ruling Elder So then by Prophecie here is not meant the extraordinary gift of interpreting Scripture by Revelation without study which were it so yet could it not help you but the ordinary gif● of Preaching and expounding Scripture by an ordinary Minister and set Church-O●ficer of which the Apostle is here speaking who must give himself to exhortation and teaching and this is that Prophesying which we are comm●nded to prize 1 Thes. 5. 20. Despise not Prophesying i. e. Preaching by men in Office by sent Prophets Now let us see what they can gather hence Because Pastors and Teache●s who were Prophets and men in O●fice are commanded to Prophe●ie and expound the word c. Therefore private gifted persons who are not men in O●fice may Prophesie and expound the Word This is Kneading-trough-L●gick The tenth Objection 1 Cor. 11. 5. Every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with her head covered c. Here say they were women that did Prophecie Now if gifted women did Prophecie then much more may gifted men ●hus Mi●●am Anna and H●lda Prophesie 2 King 22. 14. and Deborah Iudg. 4. 4. and Philips four daughters So Rom. 16. 1 3 7. Ph●be a servant of the Church Aquila and Priscilla my helpers Andr●n cus and Junia of note among the Apostles c. A. Here 's Chalk for Cheese We speak of ordinary gifted men in Office and they flee to women that were called extraordinarily as Miri●m Hulda c. As for Ph●be she was a Diaconess to minister to the ●●ck and not a Pra●dicantess to preach or have Peters keys jingling at her girdle Aquila and Priscilla by their private instruction and admonition were {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} adjutores mei my helpers And so not onely men but women should teach their children servants and neighbours the way of the Lord Pro. 1. 8. 6 20. 31 1 26. Act. 18. 26. T it 2. 3. 2 Tim. 1. 5. Yea a woman in her husbands absence and presence too if he be not able may teach her children pray with the family c. As for that place 1 Cor. 11. 5. the words are not be taken actively for womens preaching but passively for their attending on praying and prophesying with reverence and joyning with such as pray or prophesie and going along with them in their heart 2. We must distinguish of Prophecying 1. There is Prophecying which is Preaching and Expounding Scripture and thus say some these women did not Prophesie 2. Prophecying is taken for any publishing and Singing the praises of the Lord in Psalms and Hymns So Psal. 68. 11 The Lord gave the Word great was the company Annunciatricum of She-Preachers and publishers of Gods praise In those dayes after the obtaining of some great Victory the women were wont to sing Songs unto God as Miriam Deborah c. and so the word Prophesie is oft used in Scripture Numb. 11. 1 Sam. 10. 5. 2 Chron. 25. 1 2 3. 3. Suppose I should grant as many judicious Divines do and I conceive it to be the most natural and genuine sense that women in those Primitive times were inspired with an extraordinary spirit of Prayer and Prophecie according to that promise Ioel 2. 28. I will pour my Spirit in those days on my handmaids and they shall Prophe This was their practice but they failing in the manner and abu●ing thir liberty the Apostle enjoyns them silence in publike for ever 1 Cor. 14. 34 35. Let Your women keep ●ilence in the Churches for 't is not permitted for them to speak and tels them 't is a shame because not onely against a positive Law but against the Order of Nature In 1 Tim. 2. II 12. he prohibits their publike teaching and that for two reasons I. In respect of mans precedency in his Creation ver. 13. For Adam was first formed and then Eve the woman was made after the man and for the man and therefore for her to take upon her the Office of Teaching or to usurp Authority over the man what were it but to invert the courte and order of Nature 2. From the womans priority in her de●ection Adam was not deceived but the woman being deceived was in the transgression Adam was not deceived viz. not p●imarily he was not first deceived but the woman c. 2. Not immediately by the Serpent as the woman was but by the means of