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be_v the_o first_o neither_o do_v he_o or_o can_v he_o name_v any_o one_o catholic_n writer_n of_o that_o time_n so_o report_v second_o we_o allege_v most_o plain_o to_o the_o contrary_a how_o that_o optatus_n who_o live_v in_o the_o same_o time_n with_o siricius_n affirm_v that_o concordat_fw-la that_o optatus_n l._n 2._o contra_fw-la donatistas_n say_v cu_z siricio_n totus_fw-la orbis_n in_fw-la una_fw-la communionis_fw-la societate_fw-la concordat_fw-la all_o the_o world_n join_v in_o communion_n with_o sircius_fw-la so_o far_o be_v he_o from_o be_v then_o repute_v a_o innovator_n st._n hierom_n also_o who_o live_v in_o the_o time_n of_o damasus_n predecessor_n to_o siricius_n say_v of_o the_o very_a point_n now_o in_o question_n lovin_n question_n hieron_n in_o apolog._n ad_fw-la pamach_n c._n 3._o and_o the_o same_o doctrine_n do_v he_o affirm_v in_o cap._n 1._o ad_fw-la titum_fw-la &_o l._n 1._o c._n 19_o adversus_fw-la lovin_n if_o marry_a man_n like_v not_o this_o let_v they_o not_o be_v angry_a with_o i_o but_o with_o the_o holy_a scripture_n with_o all_o bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n who_o know_v they_o can_v offer_v sacrifice_n if_o they_o use_v the_o act_n of_o marriage_n and_o this_o opinion_n be_v then_o not_o first_o begin_v but_o to_o the_o contrary_a so_o universal_a that_o st._n hierom_n affirm_v it_o to_o be_v the_o general_a doctrine_n and_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n in_o asia_n africa_n europe_n as_o namely_o of_o desinunt_fw-la of_o hieron_n contra_fw-la vigilantium_fw-la c._n 1._o say_v quid_fw-la faciunt_fw-la orientis_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la quid_fw-la egypti_n &_o sedis_fw-la apostolicae_fw-la quae_fw-la aut_fw-la virgin_n clericos_fw-la accipiunt_fw-la aut_fw-la continentes_fw-la aut_fw-la si_fw-la vxores_fw-la habuerint_fw-la mariti_fw-la esse_fw-la desinunt_fw-la the_o church_n in_o the_o east_n of_o egypt_n and_o the_o sea_n apostolic_a and_o in_o like_a manner_n be_v the_o marriage_n of_o priest_n long_o before_o these_o time_n so_o plain_o impugn_a for_o unlawful_a even_o in_o the_o greek_a church_n by_o canon_n by_o epiphanius_n haer_fw-mi 59_o after_o other_o plain_a word_n have_v hereof_o say_v at_o dices_fw-la mihi_fw-la in_fw-la quibusdam_fw-la locis_fw-la adhuc_fw-la liberos_fw-la gignere_fw-la praesbyteros_fw-la diaconos_fw-la &_o hypodiaconos_n at_o
in_o his_o say_a epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n and_o hierom_n in_o câtal_a and_o eusebâus_n l._n 3._o c._n 30._o do_v mention_n ignatius_n his_o epistle_n to_o the_o roman_n allege_v likewise_o a_o great_a part_n thereof_o answerable_o find_v in_o the_o say_a epistle_n now_o extant_a and_o like_o mention_n and_o recital_n do_v they_o make_v of_o sundry_a his_o other_o epistle_n the_o undoubted_a epistle_n undoubted_a mr._n whitgift_n in_o his_o defence_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 408._o circa_fw-la med_n acknowledge_v and_o urge_v these_o epistle_n of_o ignatius_n allege_v in_o proof_n of_o they_o hierom_n and_o eusebius_n and_o mr._n cartwright_n in_o his_o answer_n thereto_o do_v not_o so_o much_o as_o deny_v the_o say_v epistle_n and_o confess_v writing_n of_o ignatius_n the_o apostle_n know_v scholar_n answer_v finem_fw-la answer_v mr._n whitgift_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la say_v ignatius_n be_v st._n john_n scholar_n and_o live_v in_o christ_n time_n and_o see_v pag._n 343_o prope_fw-la finem_fw-la to_o his_o object_v testimony_n med_n testimony_n mr._n wotton_n in_o his_o defence_n of_o mr._n perkins_n pag._n 340._o and_o whereas_o mr._n wottoâ_n in_o the_o same_o place_n to_o prove_v these_o epistle_n counterfeit_a allege_v this_o say_n of_o ignatius_n whosoever_o do_v not_o fast_o every_o lord_n day_n or_o sabbath_n except_o easter_n day_n only_o be_v a_o murderer_n of_o christ_n which_o say_v m._n wotton_n be_v absurd_a to_o forbear_v mr._n wotton'_v misallege_v of_o ignatius_n his_o word_n woich_a be_v direct_o to_o the_o contrary_a of_o that_o be_v allege_v condemn_v indeed_o fast_v upon_o the_o lord_n day_n whereof_o see_v m._n cartwright_n in_o mr._n whitgift_n defence_n pag._n 99_o fine_a who_o allege_v this_o intend_a sentence_n as_o the_o undoubted_a say_n of_o ignatius_n as_o concern_v the_o matter_n the_o lord_n day_n be_v the_o day_n of_o our_o saviour_n resurrection_n and_o so_o to_o we_o a_o day_n of_o joy_n it_o be_v ever_o in_o regard_n thereof_o prohibit_v to_o fast_o thereupon_o as_o concern_v the_o phrase_n of_o kill_a christ_n it_o be_v to_o be_v take_v as_o speak_v of_o murder_v or_o kill_v only_o by_o way_n of_o signification_n or_o in_o a_o like_o sober_a sense_n as_o when_o the_o apostle_n affirm_v we_o to_o be_v bury_v with_o christ_n in_o baptism_n rom._n 6.4_o &_o coloss_n 2.12_o or_o as_o when_o he_o affirm_v of_o sinner_n that_o they_o crucify_v again_o to_o themselves_o the_o son_n of_o god_n hebr._n 6.6_o in_o so_o much_o as_o mr._n whitgift_n in_o his_o defence_n pag._n 102._o ante_fw-la med_n and_o mr._n hooker_n l._n 5._o sect_n 72._o pag._n 209._o circa_fw-la med_n do_v both_o of_o they_o special_o mention_v and_o answer_v this_o very_a objection_n urge_v by_o mr._n wotton_n and_o brereley_o in_o his_o omission_n etc._n etc._n of_o pag._n 94._o say_v and_o so_o likewise_o do_v mr._n buddle_n in_o his_o discourse_n of_o evangelical_n fast_n pag._n 13._o post_n med_n i_o say_v plain_o this_o man_n testimony_n be_v nothing_o worth_a because_o he_o be_v of_o little_a judgement_n in_o divinity_n 7._o seaventh_o concern_v freewill_n merit_n of_o work_n invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o such_o other_o like_a the_o lord_z archbishop_z of_o canterbury_n discourse_v of_o initio_fw-la of_o mr._n whitgift_n in_o his_o defence_n etc._n etc._n against_o the_o reply_n of_o cartwright_n pag._n 472._o fine_a &_o 473._o initio_fw-la doctrine_n teach_v in_o any_o age_n since_o the_o apostle_n time_n affirm_v without_o any_o other_o exception_n of_o age_n or_o father_n that_o to_o use_v his_o own_o word_n etc._n word_n mr._n whitgift_n ubi_fw-la supra_fw-la pag._n 473._o paulo_fw-la post_fw-la initium_fw-la and_o see_v mr._n d._n covel_n in_o his_o examination_n etc._n etc._n pag._n 120._o post_n med_n affirm_v in_o like_a manner_n and_o say_v divers_a both_o of_o the_o greek_a and_o latin_a church_n be_v spot_v with_o error_n about_o freewill_n merit_n invocation_n of_o saint_n etc._n etc._n almost_o all_o the_o bishop_n and_o writer_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n and_o latin_a also_o for_o the_o most_o part_n be_v spot_v with_o doctrine_n of_o freewill_n of_o merit_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n and_o such_o like_a and_o so_o according_o concern_v invocacation_n of_o saint_n mr._n fulk_n say_v fine_a say_v fulk_n in_o his_o rejoynder_n to_o bristol_n pag._n 5._o fine_a i_o confess_v that_o ambrose_n austin_n and_o hierom_n hold_v invocation_n of_o saint_n to_o be_v lawful_a and_o it_o be_v in_o like_a manner_n yet_o further_o confess_v and_o affirm_v of_o the_o father_n in_o particular_a that_o med_n that_o mr._n fulk_n against_o the_o rhemish_a testament_n in_o 2_o pet._n c._n 1._o sect_n 3._o fol._n 443._o paulo_fw-la post_fw-la med_n in_o nazianzen_n basil_n and_o chrysostom_n be_v mention_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n that_o med_n that_o ibid_fw-la paulo_fw-la post_fw-la med_n theodoret_n also_o speak_v of_o prayer_n unto_o martyr_n that_o med_a that_o ibid_fw-la paulo_fw-la ante_fw-la med_a leo_n ascribe_v much_o to_o the_o prayer_n of_o st._n peter_n for_o he_o that_o med_a that_o ibid._n paulo_fw-la ante_fw-la med_a many_o of_o the_o ancient_a father_n hold_v that_o the_o saint_n depart_v pray_v for_o we_o and_o to_o omit_v like_o further_a confession_n concern_v 310._o concern_v mr._n fulk_n against_o purgatory_n pag._n 310._o ambrose_n caepit_fw-la ambrose_n chemnitius_n examen_fw-la part_n 3._o pag._n 200._o a._n fine_a say_v invocatio_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la tandem_fw-la circa_fw-la annum_fw-la domini_fw-la 370._o per_fw-la basilium_fw-la nyssenum_n &_o naz_n anzenum_fw-la in_o publicos_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la conventus_fw-la invehi_fw-la caepit_fw-la basil_n nazianzen_n gregory_n nyssen_n med_n nyssen_n chemnitius_n ibid._n pag._n 211._o a._n it_o med_n and_o see_v further_o concern_v hierom_n bullinger_n in_o apoc._n serm._n 87._o fol._n 270._o b._n it_o med_n theodoret_n hierom_n and_o concern_v also_o even_o cedens_fw-la even_o chemnitius_n ibid._n pag._n 211._o a._n initio_fw-la allege_v st._n austin_n invocate_a st._n cyprian_n and_o conclude_v say_v thereof_o haec_fw-la augustious_a sine_fw-la scriptura_fw-la temporibus_fw-la &_o consuetudim_v cedens_fw-la st._n augustin_n himself_o st._n cyprian_n who_o be_v much_o their_o ancient_a be_v charge_v orare_fw-la charge_v the_o centurist_n cent_n 3._o col_fw-fr 84._o lin_v 23._o say_v certè_fw-la in_o sine_fw-la prioris_fw-la epistolae_fw-la libri_fw-la primi_fw-la non_fw-la obscurè_fw-la sentit_fw-la cyprianus_n martyr_n &_o sanctos_fw-la desunctoâ_n pro_fw-la viventibus_fw-la orare_fw-la to_o affirm_v that_o martyr_n and_o dead_a saint_n do_v pray_v for_o the_o live_n and_o the_o centurist_n charge_v origen_n who_o be_v ancient_a to_o cyprian_a with_o miseris_fw-la with_o centur._n 3._o col_fw-fr 83._o lin_v 49._o they_o allege_v origen_n say_v o_o beat_v job_n ora_fw-la pro_fw-la nobis_fw-la miseris_fw-la prayer_n for_o himself_o to_o holy_a job_n and_o ezek._n and_o cent._n 3._o col_fw-fr 75._o lin_v 29._o it_o be_v say_v angelos_n etiam_fw-la origine_fw-la invocandos_fw-la putavit_fw-la hom_n 1._o in_o ezek._n invocation_n of_o angel_n affirm_v further_o that_o sanctorum_fw-la that_o centur._n 3._o c._n 4._o col_fw-fr 83._o lin_v 47._o it_o be_v say_v videas_fw-la in_o doctorum_fw-la huius_fw-la seculi_fw-la scriptis_fw-la non_fw-la obscura_fw-la vestigia_fw-la invocationis_fw-la sanctorum_fw-la there_o be_v manifest_a step_n of_o invocation_n of_o saint_n in_o the_o doctor_n of_o that_o ancient_a age_n 8._o eight_o concern_v baptism_n and_o grace_v confer_v by_o it_o and_o other_o sacrament_n it_o be_v confess_v that_o the_o most_o ancient_a father_n who_o succeed_v next_o to_o the_o apostle_n scholar_n namely_o justin_n clement_n etc._n etc._n etc._n etc._n centur._n 2._o c._n 4._o col_fw-fr 47._o lin_v 43._o and_o in_o cent_n 3._o c._n 4._o col_fw-fr 82._o lin_v 55._o it_o be_v say_v affirmare_fw-la audet_fw-la cyprianus_n quod_fw-la persona_fw-la baptizan_n spiritum_fw-la sanctum_fw-la conferat_fw-la &_o baptizatum_fw-la intus_fw-la sanctificet_fw-la etc._n etc._n think_v regeneration_n not_o to_o be_v signify_v but_o wrought_v by_o baptism_n and_o the_o word_n unto_o which_o two_o join_v together_o they_o attribute_v efficacy_n that_o be_v to_o say_v remission_n of_o sin_n that_o 70._o that_o zuinglius_fw-la tom_n 2._o de_fw-la baptismo_fw-la fol._n 70._o it_o be_v a_o great_a error_n of_o the_o old_a doctor_n in_o that_o they_o suppose_v the_o external_a water_n of_o baptism_n to_o be_v of_o any_o value_n towards_o the_o purge_n of_o sin_n that_o etc._n that_o musculus_fw-la loc_fw-la come_v pag._n 299._o post_n med_n say_v thereof_o inconsideratè_fw-la dictum_fw-la est_fw-la ab_fw-la augustino_n etc._n etc._n austin_n do_v inconsiderate_o affirm_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o give_v salvation_n that_o also_o 16._o also_o centur._n 3._o c._n 6._o col_fw-fr 125._o lin_v 16._o origen_n tertullian_n and_o cyprian_a mention_n how_o that_o the_o baptise_a person_n be_v accustom_v to_o be_v sign_v with_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o cross_n that_o there_o be_v likewise_o then_o use_v in_o baptism_n sundry_a other_o ceremony_n