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A33370	A paradisical dialogue betwixt faith and reason disputing the high mysterious secrets of eternity, the like never extant in our revelation. As touching God in eternity, how he became time in flesh, and how he dyed in the grave, and ascended to his glory again. Also what the angels are in form and nature, and how the angel became a devil, and that devil man; and that this world was prepared for the devil, so this the devils kingdom; and what the soul is, with the place of its glory and torment. With a brief narration what a commission is, and how many commissions there are; what the difference of their worships, and how that the law was given to the devil; with a brief discourse on the catechism, the Lords Prayer, and the creeds; as also, a divine prospect to the elect of the Lord. Written by Law. Claxton, the onely true bishop and faithful messenger of Christ Jesus, creator of heaven and earth.	Claxton, Laurence, 1615-1667.	1660 (1660)	Wing C4581; ESTC R215220	88,691	122

hear thy thoughts whether this world was in being before the Angels because thou sayest the Angel was thrown into this world Faith Thou hast raised that which neither thou nor any of thy Seed can answer in that this and other that shall be revealed is onely to the Seed of Faith therefore for thy conviction and the satisfaction of the Seed of the Woman I against Angel and man declare and infallibly affirm that the substances of earth and water in this world and that glorious World above were from all Eternity in the Creators presence uncreated senseless dark dead matter like unto water and dust that had no kinde of life light or vertue in them in the least so that I say this world upon the account aforesaid was before the Angels creation Reason By the learning of this world we have understood that those substances of earth and water was not Eternal onely the Creator speaking the word so they came in being also it is written In the beginning God created the Gen. 1. Heaven and the Earth so that I understand there was no earth nor water till it was created Faith As I have said before so I say again this doth not belong to thy seed to know it for it is written Through Faith we understand the worlds were framed by the Word of God Heb. 11. 3. So that by Faith I say that earth and vvater vvas Eternal and the vvord frame or create is to make formles● dead vvater into sensible living forms for thou maist read That earth was without form and void and darkness was upon the face of the deep c. So that there vvas an earth and vvater though dead and dark so vvithout form Novv the vvord creating or framing vvas to give life and light to those substances of death and darkness and therefore it is vvritten The Spirit of God moved upon the waters and said Gen. 1. 2. let there be light and there was light So that against Angel or man I positively affirm that the earth and the deep vvater vvere essentially one Chaos of confused vvater distinct from the Creator and vvhereas it is said In the beginning God created Heaven and Earth is thus to be understood that of the matter of vvater and earth that vvas formless and void God by a vvord speaking did create a formable vvorld as a place of convenient residence for such mortals as thou and I to inhabit in Reason Though it be consented that the earth and vvater in the beginning vvas dead and dark yet I cannot see but they vvere created so not eternal for it is vvritten I create light and I create darkness so that it vvill follovv God Isaiah 45. 7. created them vvithout form and void Faith In ansvver to this it is vvritten That God is light and in him is no darkness at all yet it is vvritten Darkness was upon the deep So that I knovv from eternity the Divine 1 John 1. 5. Nature of the Creators Spirit vvas nothing but immortal fiery glory of Life and Light so vvithout Controversie the dead earth and dark deep vvater never proceeded all Life and Light out of his glorious mouth and vvhereas thou sayest God created darkness is not intented as thou supposest but the meaning is that he created those Souls that vvere naturally dark into a marvellous light as these Scriptures vvill plainly manifest The light shineth in darkness and the darkness comprehendeth it not and again I will open their John 1. 5. eyes and turn them from darkness to light and from the power of Satan unto God vvith many such places but not one Scripture that God created or gave any being or beginning unto dead dark senseless earth and water aforesaid Reason I cannot yet understand but that God created that confused Chaos of water and earth and so of nothing by his word speaking this world was made Faith Though thou be the Seed of Reason yet in this thou art unreasonable to think that ever those dark dead Elements of earth and water should have their Original from his glorious Spirit I say their natures being so contrary it is impossible they should proceed the one from the other For alas What is death or darkness is it not through the absence of life and light and is not life being overcome by death absolutely become death or darkness or utter silence for a moment and if light and darkness life and death meet together is there any peace between them until one hath swallowed up the other If this be so as it is so then without Controversie earth and water were uncreated substances eternally distinct from the God of Life Light and Glory and that the more it is written And darkness covered the face of the deep therefore I say it is but a dream and a lye to say that God created all things of nothing or that God created that confused Chaos of water and earth it is all one as if thou shouldst say there was no Creator at all but earth and water and such like dead stuff as they are Reason It is written God made a Firmament and divided the waters that were under the Firmament from the waters which were above the Firmament Now was this Firmament Eternal as the rest Faith I say the Firmament that is visible was Eternal though it was of that dead dark matter as the other was Now the word making is the same creating which is no other then as aforesaid to make that which was dead and dark to be lively light and therefore God made Sun Moon and Stars and set them in the Firmament to give light upon this earth so that the Sun is the life of the earth the Moon the life of the waters Reason What then is the Nature of the Water and the Earth above this visible Firmament the same with this water and earth in this world Faith No in nature they are not the same for that above the Firmament is immortal spiritual when as this is mortal natural And therefore the Angels and all the creatures therein being created of that matter are spiritual immortal bodies when as man and all creatures herein are natural mortal bodies and therefore it is written There are Heavenly Bodies and earthly bodies celestiaal and terrestial the one above durable this below perishing that above sutable for such a glorious personal Majesty as the Creator is CHAP. 6. Shewing of what matter Adams body was created and what was his Nature Soul or Spirit and by what means Adam came to lose his state he was created in Reason THen tell me of which of the two substances was the body of Adam created of that above or this below Faith There is no Dispute to the contrary but that Adam was created of this earth below in that he is numbred among this visible creation as in Genesis is related And that Adam was to be Lord and rule over them and the Scripture tells thee what

presumption for I know it is the curse of God and not of man that must bring a soul under condemnation Faith Whatever thy thoughts are of me I matter not but this thou shalt ●●nde that I have power in the Revelation of my Commission to curse not onely thee but any of thy seed that shall do as thou hast done to call it a lye And in the Revelation of my faith I say That the Sentence of Blessing and Cursing belongs onely to the Prophets and Messengers of that Commission for I testifie unto thee That God the giver of Commissions never damned any but the Angelical seed in the Womb of Eve who is the Father of thee and all the damned as all along it is recorded That in the name of the Lord the Prophets and Apostles pronounced Plagues Woes and Judgements against all the despisers of their Commission in that they were Ambassadors and Stewards in Christs stead so we the Prophets and Messengers of God represent the Authority of our Commission as the Prophets and Apostles did in theirs Reason If thou please let me hear what thou intends by a Commission and why this is a Commission more then any other Dispensation now in being for I conceive were it not ambition in them that Quakers and all others may assume the Authority to bless and curse as now thou dost Faith Notwithstanding I have sufficiently unfolded our Commission in the Quakers Downfal yet that thou mayest be left excuseless I shall in another way infallibly lay down the truth thereof in these particulars 1. How many Commissions there was to be in this perishing world 2. The nature and tenor of a Commission 3. The powerful operation of a Commission 1. As unto the first it is writ There are three that bear record in heaven the Father the Word and the Holy Ghost and these three are one and there are three that bear witness 1 Joh. 5. 7 8. on earth the Spirit the Water and the Blood and these three agree in one Now as God did consist of three titles and not three persons as thou and thy seed vainly immagine that is to say Father Son and Holy Ghost So from each of these issued forth a Commission upon this earth for in the time that he bore the title of Father Moses and the Prophets was in Commission Now when that Father became Word Flesh so called Son or Christ then the Apostles were in Commission after that both Father and Son became Holy Ghost or one entire Spiritual Body now in Heaven glorified the next after came forth our Commission so that according to the titles above there was to be three Commissions in this world suitable to the three titles in Heaven 2. As unto the nature of a Commission it is not given in silence but upon record under hand and seal to the Messenger or Messengers therein included with an exact charge to observe the Kings pleasure according to the tenor and form thereof Now this Commission being given to thee doth not concern another for the names included for that Embassage doth this Commission belong Now for any other to counterfeit thy Commission thou hast power by vertue thereof to apprehend him for a Traytor against the King thy Master Even so it is with a Commission from God which is not given by private whisperings in the soul as all counterfeits imagine every motion whimsey or fancy in the minde more then ordinary is a call from God not knowing yet daily reading that all Commissions were given by laudable voyce of words to the hearing of the ear as to Moses Paul and now in this last to John Reeve Now then what are all these seven Dispensations but by Moses the Apostles and this Commission impeached for Traytors against Christ the Lord of Glory 3. And thirdly the power of a Commission is so great that it commands yea subjects the spirits of all that it hath to deal with A man in Commission represents the Authority of the great God of Heaven and Earth that whatever he bindes imprisons or condemns on earth is so in Heaven and whosoever he declares blessed or happy here are so in Heaven so that if thou wert not stone blinde thou wouldst then see that there is no Teacher publique nor private now living that hath a Commission but we and therefore it is we have power overall mens spirits yea the judge of all spiritual things of what sect or opinion soever Reason O what a boasting dost thou make that none but your Commission hath power over mens spirits and that onely to you belongs blessing and cursing when I conceive there is many able wise Teachers that are as true Commissioners as you and yet dare not assume that power to themselves as you do Faith O thou man of pretended light yet gross darkness bring any man now living except this Commission that dares say he had a Commission by voyce of words from God as we have thou shalt hear that I will curse them as I have cursed thee And where is any of your Teachers that hath a Commission of his own but Moses and the Apostles whom they have counterfeited and made merchandize for their own gain From the Lord of Glory I say not any of them no not the wisest or moderatest head-peice dare or can in peace of conscience say that thou art damned and another is saved Alas poor blinde leaders of the blinde they know not what will become of their own souls how then can they judge anothers but they will be condemned for so doing for were I not certain of the knowledge of the true God and the right Devil and all others that are ignorant thereof are culpable of judgement instead of being justified I should be condemned and yet what a flutter Caesars Ministers make in praying to a God that is no God and preaching delusions of their own inventions pretending thus and thus saith the Lord when Christ the onely God knows them not neither did he send them therefore from my Seedspring I say they are all Thieves and Robbers yea Traytors against the God of Heaven for do but bring any of them before me and thou mayest take notice I have power over their blinde zeal that if they do not for future desist in bewitching the people to believe lies thou shalt then hear the same sentence pass upon them as hath already passed upon thee Reason Which of them will believe the sentence of thy Commission unless thou couldst shew some present example either without or within as the Prophet Elias did to cause fire from Heaven and stop the rain that it rain not Now if thy curse be true how comes it that I do not finde it immediately within or without Faith Thou art worse then the inhabitants of Jerusalem a●d Judea Mat. 11. 11. that believed in John that did no miracle and yet was a Prophet yea I say more then a Prophet for as Christ said among them that

like a sloathful servant hath hid thy talent in the letter of the Apostles so that when death summons thee to give an account of thy Stewardship then thou begins to trim up thy lamp and findes therein no oyl and then cryeth unto the wise Virgins that is the wisdom of faith Give us of your oyl for our lamps are gone out but then all in vain will thy doleful cries be for the Scriptures cannot help thee nor we cannot help thee and therefore thou must go to thy Prayers thy Preaching and Pharisaical Righteousness to buy thy salvation and they can do thee no good so that now thou mayest see how thou hast deluded ●hy soul with anothers Commission so that now those small hopes of comfort shall be taken from thee which then the Scripture will condemn thee and our Commission keep thee in utter darkness without end But as some of the high flown of thy Seed endued with a notional light above their fellows have replied and said That they will believe no report of man but onely wait upon God for the teachings of his Spirit supposing thereby to finde eternal satisfaction without the revealed report of his Messenger at all and that because they finde a saying to that purpos● as it is written The Anointing which ye have received 1 John 2. 27. of him abideth in you and ye need not any man teach you but as the same Anointing teacheth you of all things and in another place Ye shall not need every man to teach his neighbor for ye shall all know the Lord from the least to the greatest Now there is not any of thy Seed that understande●h these sayings were fulfilled in the days of the Apostles as is confirmed by Peter saying This was that which was o●● 2 27 28. spoken by the Prophet Joel c. that God would send the Comforter which did fill them full of the Holy Ghost as there at large is recorded but however thou canst not believe this yet in Revelation I tell thee That if any such ever finde eternal happiness it must be from the Commissioners of God as from the mouth of Moses they received the Law and by the Prophets the Rulers of Israel heard the Word of the Lord and so in the two Commissions of the Apostles it is written How shall they call on him in whom they Rom. 10. 14 15 16. have not believed and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard a●d how shall they hear without a Preacher and how shall they preach except they be sent So that faith in the true God comes by hearing the report of his true Messengers and without them how shall we ever know or come to God for I infallibly declare That the Messengers of every Commiss●on hath the word of Reconc●liation 2 Cor 5. 19 20. 2 Cor. 2. 14. Salvation or Damnation committed to them as it is written We are Ambassadors for Christ as though God did beseech you by us so that we pray you in Christs stead be ye reconciled to God for he maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place So that against all thy Seed I affirm Whoever pretends to wait upon God without the report of his Messengers that are sent by laudable voyce of words they know not the true God nor shall ever see the face of God at all and therefore take notice the onely Messenger of God told thee so Fourthly and lastly I say Though the Scripture doth not belong to thee yet the Law doth onely belong to thee and thy Seed for had it not been for thy Seed of Reason their had been no need of a Law given but because of the enmity of thy Seed against the Seed of the Woman the Law was revealed to Moses and by Moses given to the people of Israel in consideration there was a mixture of Seeds which caused divisions and rebellion against the contrary Seed viz. Moses and that Generation therefore that obedience might be required of them by the grand Commissioners to that end the Law was given to the universal body of Israel that all Israel that was according to the flesh and not the Spirit might be made subject by the Law that so upon their transgression they might receive the penalty of the Law and therefore it is written The Law is not made for a righteous 1 T●m 1. 9 man but for the lawless and diso●edient for the ungodly and such like which none of the Seed of faith once called are guilty of but it is the daily practice of thy Seed Reason the Devil and therefore the Law was given to the Devil which thou mayest read in Chap. 8. recorded at large what his form and nature is how compleat and beautiful how learnedly wise he is in naturals that this is his Kingdom and the Devil the King thereof CHAP. 13. Shewing what the Law is at large and in short and whether any can keep the Law and when he is said to keep the Law and when not Reason THou seemest to affirm That the Law was given to the Seed of Reason which thou all along hath said is the Devil and if there had been no such Seed as Reason there had been no need of a Law by what rule then doth the Seed of Faith walk by if the Law was not given to them as well as to our Seed seeing both Seeds inhabits together and those of that Seed have been as wicked as Reason Faith As before thou hast heard me prove it so now I affirm it That the Law Moral or the ten Commandments was given to none but the Devil that proud majestical Seed the God of this World for I must tell thee if that wise rich Devil had not a curb to bridle them there had been no living for the poor Devil of thy Seed much less for the Seed of Faith to pass quie●ly by thee in the streers were it not the Law doth say Thou shalt not kill thou wouldst murther me for declaring the truth to thee But in that the Law makes Rom 7. 7. sin to be sin yea and that exceeding sinful not onely the Gentile but the Jew Devils also do yea are afraid to execute their cruelty beyond their bounds though many of thy Seed do exceed it yet the moderate Devil is fearful of it saying have a care what ye do to these men as Pila●e said I finde M●t. 27. 19. no fault in him nor no cause of death and so the Law wrought a terror in Pilates wife saying Have thou nothing to do with that just man c. insomuch that Pilate tooke water and washed his hands before the multitude saying I am innocent of 2 Thes 3. 2. the blood of this just person see ye to it and therefore it is written That we may be delivered from unreasonable and wicked men that live without a Law of which many of the Gentile Devils are guilty of onely