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A39573 Baby-baptism meer babism, or, An answer to nobody in five words to every-body who finds himself concern'd in't by Samuel Fisher. Fisher, Samuel, 1605-1665. 1653 (1653) Wing F1055; ESTC R25405 966,848 642

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exercit._n non_fw-la cum_fw-la jesu_fw-la itis_n qui_fw-la itis_n cum_fw-la jesuitis_fw-la reason_n reasonless_a reason_n reasonless_a reason_n reasonless_a reason_n reasonless_a reason_n reasonless_a reason_n reasonless_a reason_n reasonless_a reason_n reasoulesse_a reasoulesse_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d *_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d in_o eundem_fw-la in_o quem_fw-la nostra_fw-la nunc_fw-la intendunt_fw-la scopum_fw-la et_fw-la vetera_fw-la illa_fw-la spectarunt_fw-la nempe_fw-la ut_fw-la ad_fw-la christum_fw-la dirigerent_fw-la &_o pene_fw-la manu_fw-la ducerent_fw-la aut_fw-la ipsum_fw-la potius_fw-la ceu_fw-la imagine_v representarent_fw-la ac_fw-la cognoscendum_fw-la proferrent_fw-la proferrent_fw-la eam_fw-la promionem_fw-la in_o evangelio_fw-la datam_fw-la per_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la nobis_fw-la magis_fw-la declarat_fw-la deus_fw-la nempe_fw-la per_fw-la analogiam_fw-la signorum_fw-la cum_fw-la rebus_fw-la quae_fw-la per_fw-la ea_fw-la significantur_fw-la sicut_fw-la similitudo_fw-la declarat_fw-la id_fw-la cujus_fw-la est_fw-la similitudo_fw-la haec_fw-la enim_fw-la quando_fw-la intelligitur_fw-la etiam_fw-la id_fw-la cujus_fw-la est_fw-la similitudo_fw-la fit_a perspicuum_fw-la et_fw-la quidem_fw-la magis_fw-la quam_fw-la sine_fw-la similitudine_fw-la et_fw-la ut_fw-la vera_fw-la similitudo_fw-la non_fw-la intelligitur_fw-la nisi_fw-la analogia_fw-la similitudinis_fw-la intellegatur_fw-la ita_fw-la nec_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la nisi_fw-la analogia_fw-la signorum_fw-la et_fw-la rerum_fw-la intellegatur_fw-la hoc_fw-la sensu_fw-la apologia_fw-la augustanae_n confessionis_fw-la aliquoties_fw-la sa_fw-it cramenta_fw-la vocat_fw-la picturas_fw-la x_o see_v legh_o crit_fw-fr sac_fw-mi p._n 76._o 77._o where_o he_o over_o and_o over_o again_o confess_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v to_o dip_v plunge_n under_o water_n etc._n etc._n primary_o and_o proper_o p._n 76._o it_o signifi_n eth_z primary_o such_o a_o kind_n of_o wash_v as_o be_v use_v in_o buck_n where_o linen_n be_v plunge_v or_o dip_v beza_n neque_fw-la vero_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d significat_fw-la lavare_fw-la nisi_fw-la a_o consequenti_fw-la nam_fw-la proprie_fw-la declarat_fw-la tingendi_fw-la causa_fw-la mergere_fw-la also_o p._n 77._o the_o native_a &_o proper_a signification_n o●…_n it_o be_v to_o dip_v into_o water_n or_o plunge_v under_o water_n joh_n 3._o 22_o 23._o mat._n 3._o 16._o tanquam_fw-la ad_fw-la tingendum_fw-la mergo_fw-la causab_n im_a go_v intingo_fw-la abluo_fw-la bucan_n mergo_fw-la et_fw-la tingo_fw-la bullinger_n proprie_fw-la significat_fw-la immergo_fw-la submergo_fw-la obruo_fw-la aquà_fw-la zanchius_n videtur_fw-la copiam_fw-la 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