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A86328 The foundation of the font discovered to the view of all that desire to behold it. And, the baptizing of men and women when they believe (in rivers and fountains) proved to be a standing ordinance in the Church of Cchrist to the end of the world; by plain Scripture-proof. In answer to Mr. Cook's Font uncovered, for infant-baptism; and Mr. Baxter's Plain Scripture-proof for infants church-membership and baptism. With a word sometimes upon occasion to Mr. Hall's Font-guarded; which is more fully answered by Thomas Collyer. By Henry Haggar, a servant of Christ, and the congregations of his saints. Haggar, Henry. 1653 (1653) Wing H186; Thomason E711_1; ESTC R207114 109,478 143

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shall_v give_v you_o a_o cup_n of_o water_n to_o drink_v in_o my_o name_n because_o you_o belong_v to_o i_o very_o i_o say_v unto_o you_o he_o shall_v not_o lose_v his_o reward_n now_o what_o the_o two_o first_o scripture_n be_v to_o the_o purpose_n i_o leave_v to_o all_o that_o can_v read_v and_o understand_v eaglish_a to_o judge_v but_o it_o may_v be_v he_o will_v say_v the_o printer_n have_v do_v he_o wrong_n i_o answer_v then_o i_o have_v do_v he_o none_o as_o all_o may_v see_v that_o read_v the_o place_n and_o consider_v the_o quotation_n page_n 22._o and_o i_o look_v also_o in_o his_o errata_fw-la but_o there_o be_v nothing_o speak_v of_o it_o and_o true_o i_o dare_v be_v no_o interpreter_n of_o his_o meaning_n without_o his_o word_n therefore_o it_o remain_v that_o i_o only_o speak_v to_o that_o mar._n 9.41_o and_o luke_n 9.47_o which_o i_o find_v after_o be_v quote_v in_o that_o page_n thus_o and_o jesus_n pereeive_v the_o thought_n of_o their_o heart_n take_v a_o child_n and_o 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they_o come_v to_o year_n of_o discretion_n be_v sinful_a i_o further_o prove_v because_o they_o by_o their_o tradition_n of_o rantize_v or_o sprinkle_v babe_n before_o they_o understand_v and_o believe_v the_o gospel_n do_v make_v the_o command_n of_o christ_n which_o be_v to_o baptize_v man_n and_o woman_n when_o they_o believe_v and_o understand_v of_o none_o effect_n and_o so_o in_o vain_a they_o worship_v god_n and_o they_o which_o take_v his_o name_n in_o vain_a he_o will_v not_o hold_v they_o guiltless_a see_v mar._n 7.7_o 8_o 9_o matth._n 15.8_o 9_o and_o thus_o they_o bind_v two_o sin_n together_o and_o in_o the_o one_o they_o shall_v not_o go_v unpunished_a now_o to_o his_o three_o argument_n which_o be_v draw_v from_o that_o which_o he_o have_v speak_v already_o as_o he_o himself_o confess_v which_o he_o lay_v down_o thus_o that_o practice_n which_o go_v upon_o mere_a uncertainty_n and_o have_v no_o scripture-rule_n to_o guide_v it_o be_v not_o according_a to_o the_o will_n 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