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signify_v the_o same_o as_o or._n because_o to_o strike_v father_n apart_o and_o to_o strike_v mother_n apart_o be_v worthy_a of_o death_n in_o a_o son_n therefore_o the_o scripture_n exod._n 21._o saying_n he_o that_o strike_v his_o father_n &_o mother_n let_v he_o die_v the_o death_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v disiunctive_o his_o father_n or_o mother_n this_o may_v be_v prove_v by_o other_o innumerable_a instance_n nor_o can_v so_o much_o as_o one_o example_n be_v bring_v where_o this_o rule_n fail_v this_o suppose_a i_o assume_v but_o the_o scripture_n teach_v that_o the_o eat_n of_o christ_n body_n a_o part_n by_o itself_o be_v sufficient_a unto_o eternal_a life_n john_n 6.52_o the_o bread_n which_o i_o will_v give_v be_v my_o flesh_n for_o the_o life_n of_o the_o world_n and_o 58._o he_o that_o eat_v i_o shall_v live_v by_o i_o and_o 59_o he_o that_o eat_v this_o bread_n shall_v live_v for_o ever_o ergo_fw-la the_o precept_n except_o you_o eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o the_o son_n 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mention_v not_o only_a wine_n but_o also_o water_n the_o deacon_n say_v he_o distribute_v unto_o every_o one_o present_a consecrate_a bread_n wine_n and_o water_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d wherefore_o if_o by_o this_o testimony_n you_o can_v prove_v it_o be_v a_o divine_a precept_n to_o give_v wine_n you_o prove_v also_o that_o it_o be_v a_o divine_a precept_n to_o give_v water_n &_o consequent_o yourselves_o to_o be_v transgressor_n of_o the_o divine_a precept_n who_o give_v it_o not_o that_o this_o your_o perversity_n to_o urge_v we_o with_o the_o testimony_n of_o s._n justin_n which_o make_v not_o to_o the_o purpose_n or_o else_o by_o the_o same_o yourself_o be_v condemn_v may_v not_o appear_v you_o falsify_v the_o place_n cite_v what_o please_v you_o and_o leave_v out_o what_o serve_v not_o your_o turn_n second_o these_o word_n of_o s._n justine_n the_o apostle_n teach_v that_o jesus_n command_v they_o so_o to_o do_v be_v not_o join_v upon_o the_o word_n that_o mention_v the_o 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justine_n by_o which_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o he_o say_v that_o jesus_n give_v a_o precept_n not_o of_o communion_n in_o both_o kind_n but_o of_o believe_v the_o real_a presence_n whence_o your_o three_o corruption_n be_v discover_v make_v s._n justine_n to_o say_v that_o jesus_n command_v to_o do_v thus_o for_o to_o do_v thus_o be_v add_v unto_o the_o text_n against_o the_o drift_n thereof_o which_o manifest_o speak_v of_o a_o precept_n to_o believe_v thus_o not_o to_o do_v thus_o in_o like_a manner_n you_o falsify_v s._n cyprian_n pag._n 497._o you_o produce_v these_o his_o word_n as_o make_v against_o communion_n in_o one_o kind_n in_o consecrate_v and_o administer_a the_o cup_n unto_o the_o people_n some_o do_v not_o that_o which_o our_o lord_n do_v appoint_v and_o command_v as_o who_o shall_v say_v these_o man_n do_v transgress_v the_o divine_a precept_n in_o that_o they_o give_v not_o the_o cup_n unto_o layman_n have_v s._n cyprian_n mean_v this_o he_o shall_v not_o have_v say_v they_o sin_n in_o administer_a but_o the_o contrary_a they_o sin_n in_o not_o administer_a the_o cup_n to_o the_o people_n but_o s._n cyprian_n present_o declare_v wherein_o they_o do_v transgress_v the_o divine_a precept_n to_o wit_n in_o that_o some_o do_v consecrate_v pure_a water_n without_o wine_n &_o other_o mere_a wine_n without_o water_n and_o give_v the_o same_o to_o the_o people_n what_o be_v this_o against_o communion_n in_o one_o kind_n this_o place_n prove_v they_o sin_n against_o the_o divine_a law_n who_o consecrate_v pure_a water_n in_o lieu_n of_o wine_n as_o some_o protestant_n teach_v man_n to_o do_v and_o also_o that_o they_o transgress_v the_o divine_a precept_n who_o offer_v unto_o god_n and_o give_v to_o the_o people_n pure_a wine_n without_o admixtion_n of_o water_n as_o all_o protestans_fw-la common_o do_v but_o that_o priest_n be_v bind_v by_o divine_a precept_n to_o give_v consecrate_v wine_n to_o the_o people_n this_o place_n do_v not_o so_o much_o 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impious_o persuade_v that_o wine_n be_v the_o 46._o the_o aug._n de_fw-fr haeres_fw-la 46._o gall_n of_o the_o prince_n of_o darkness_n do_v quad._n do_v leo_fw-la serm_n 4._o de_fw-fr quad._n superstitious_o abstain_v from_o the_o chalice_n the_o church_n in_o detestation_n of_o this_o error_n command_v for_o a_o time_n communion_n under_o both_o kind_n upon_o which_o occasion_n gelasius_n pope_n make_v the_o decree_n comperimus_fw-la decree_n gelas._n apud_fw-la gratian._n de_fw-fr consecrat_fw-mi cap._n comperimus_fw-la record_v by_o gratian_n aut_fw-la integra_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la suscipiant_fw-la aut_fw-la ab_fw-la integris_fw-la arceantur_fw-la and_o why_o because_o such_o abstinent_n nescio_fw-la qua_fw-la superstitione_n docentur_fw-la astringi_fw-la that_o be_v be_v superstitious_a not_o absteyn_v out_o of_o any_o devotion_n but_o out_o of_o a_o impious_a persuasion_n of_o the_o impurity_n of_o god_n creature_n wherefore_o the_o
the_o body_n and_o blood_n be_v give_v in_o the_o shape_n of_o â—read_n and_o wine_n as_o venerable_a bede_n in_o c._n 22._o luc._n out_o of_o who_o you_o cite_v â—hese_fw-mi word_n substitute_v his_o body_n and_o blood_n in_o the_o figure_n of_o bread_n and_o wine_n what_o be_v this_o but_o that_o the_o figure_n and_o shape_n of_o bread_n remain_v the_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n be_v present_a in_o lieu_n of_o the_o substance_n thereof_o second_o your_o minor_a assertion_n that_o the_o figure_n of_o a_o thing_n be_v not_o the_o â—ame_n with_o the_o thing_n figure_v be_v impious_a and_o direct_o opposite_a unto_o god_n word_n first_o christ_n jesus_n be_v a_o figure_n of_o his_o father_n substance_n heb._n 1.3_o and_o yet_o be_v he_o the_o same_o substantial_o with_o the_o father_n john_n 10.30_o second_o s._n peter_n fish_v in_o the_o sea_n and_o catch_v a_o great_a multitude_n of_o fish_n be_v a_o figure_n of_o himself_o preach_v in_o the_o world_n and_o convert_n soul_n unto_o christ_n luc._n â—_o 10_o and_o yet_o peter_n fish_v and_o peter_n preach_v be_v substantial_o the_o same_o person_n three_o christ_n as_o find_v in_o the_o temple_n on_o the_o three_o day_n after_o his_o â—eesing_n be_v a_o figure_n of_o himself_o rise_v after_o the_o three_o day_n of_o his_o sepulture_n ambros._n in_o cap._n 2._o lucae_n also_o christ_n as_o make_v a_o show_n to_o go_v further_o in_o his_o journey_n to_o emmaus_n represent_v himself_o as_o mount_v to_o heaven_n august_n count_v mendac_fw-la c._n 13._o and_o yet_o christ_n find_v after_o three_o day_n and_o christ_n rise_v after_o three_o day_n christ_n make_v a_o show_n to_o pass_v on_o and_o ascend_v to_o his_o father_n be_v substantial_o one_o and_o the_o same_o person_n false_a then_o and_o impious_a be_v your_o assertion_n that_o the_o figure_n of_o a_o thing_n can_v be_v the_o same_o with_o the_o thing_n figure_v and_o consequent_o this_o your_o argument_n the_o eucharist_n be_v term_v by_o the_o father_n the_o 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credimus_fw-la non_fw-la minùs_fw-la quà m_fw-la vos_fw-la veram_fw-la haec_fw-la fides_fw-la regis_fw-la &_o regius_fw-la resp._n ad_fw-la card._n peron_n in_o oper_n regis_fw-la pag._n 399._o &_o 400._o of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n no_o less_o true_a than_o we_o hold_v and_o consequent_o you_o will_v not_o understand_v the_o word_n of_o christ_n figurative_o as_o sacramentarye_n do_v for_o they_o make_v the_o body_n of_o christ_n present_a in_o the_o eucharistical_a bread_n but_o as_o in_o a_o figure_n hold_v not_o a_o true_a nor_o a_o real_a presence_n but_o only_o a_o presence_n by_o imagination_n &_o conceit_n cavil_n conceit_n this_o be_v suppose_v by_o the_o jesuit_n as_o clear_v and_o have_v be_v prove_v in_o the_o former_a addition_n against_o the_o minister_n cavil_n as_o be_v evident_a wherein_o as_o your_o majesty_n know_v they_o contradict_v the_o ancient_a church_n which_o teach_v express_o that_o christ_n 14._o christ_n euthym._n panop_n pa._n 2._o tit_n 22._o theop._n in_o marc._n c._n 14._o damascen_n orthod_n fidei_fw-la l._n 4._o c._n 14._o do_v not_o say_v this_o be_v a_o figure_n of_o my_o body_n but_o this_o be_v my_o body_n and_o exhort_v we_o to_o believe_v christ_n upon_o his_o word_n he_o say_v this_o be_v my_o body_n 4._o body_n gaudent_fw-la tract_n 2._o in_o exod._n chrysost._n in_o c._n 26._o matth._n hom_n 83._o ambros._n de_fw-fr ijs_fw-la qui_fw-la mysterijs_fw-la ivitiant_fw-la c._n 9_o epiph._n in_o anchorato_fw-mi hilar._n l._n 8._o de_fw-la trinit_fw-la cyrill_n hieros_n cateche_n 4._o i_o pray_v you_o let_v we_o believe_v he_o who_o we_o have_v believe_v verity_n can_v utter_v untruth_n and_o herein_o they_o acknowledge_v with_o your_o majesty_n a_o most_o high_a and_o incomprehensible_a mystery_n which_o be_v no_o mystery_n at_o all_o the_o word_n be_v understand_v in_o a_o mere_a figurative_a sense_n as_o for_o some_o place_n of_o father_n bring_v to_o the_o contrary_a how_o they_o be_v to_o be_v 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catechuman_n enter_v into_o curiosity_n be_v scandalize_v and_o again_o before_o catechuman_n &_o which_o be_v more_o before_o jew_n &_o pagan_n blaspheme_v christianity_n they_o handle_v a_o question_n about_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o saviour_n and_o to_o the_o same_o purpose_n saint_n ambrose_n 1._o ambrose_n ambros._n de_fw-fr myster_n initian_n c._n 1._o say_v to_o declare_v the_o mysterye_n unto_o they_o that_o be_v catechuman_n be_v no_o tradition_n but_o prodition_n see_v by_o such_o declaration_n danger_n be_v incur_v lest_o they_o be_v diwlge_v unto_o infidel_n that_o will_v scoff_n at_o they_o this_o suppose_a i_o infer_v that_o the_o seem_a absurdity_n of_o the_o catholic_a real_a presence_n shall_v encourage_v a_o true_a christian_a mind_n to_o believe_v it_o for_o a_o true_a christian_a desire_n to_o believe_v and_o firm_o cleave_v unto_o the_o real_a presence_n that_o be_v believe_v by_o the_o primitive_a church_n but_o this_o be_v a_o real_a presence_n 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unto_o carnal_a imagination_n whereas_o baptism_n be_v not_o conceive_v to_o be_v of_o that_o seem_a absurdity_n nor_o conceal_v doctrine_n that_o make_v christ_n body_n present_v spiritual_o by_o faith_n unto_o the_o devout_a receiver_n that_o communicate_v think_v sweet_o of_o christ_n passion_n and_o death_n contain_v no_o mystery_n to_o be_v conceal_v in_o respect_n of_o the_o seem_a absurditye_n yea_o the_o father_n do_v not_o fear_v to_o declare_v to_o catechuman_n this_o sacrament_n so_o far_o as_o it_o be_v commemorative_n of_o christ_n and_o his_o passion_n as_o appear_v by_o the_o treatise_n of_o saint_n augustine_n upon_o s._n john_n make_v before_o catechuman_n out_o of_o which_o treatise_n protestant_n for_o their_o mere_a commemorative_n presence_n allege_v many_o sentence_n to_o little_a purpose_n for_o he_o there_o explicate_v spiritual_a manducation_n by_o faith_n and_o he_o exclude_v the_o gross_a imagination_n of_o eat_v christ_n body_n in_o his_o proper_a shape_n 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by_o the_o very_a lightness_n thereof_o suspect_v it_o be_v not_o the_o doctrine_n which_o the_o father_n conceal_v from_o