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A72527 The relection of a conference touching the reall presence. Or a bachelours censure of a masters apologie for Doctour Featlie. bachelours censure of a masters apologie for Doctour Featlie. / By L.I. B. of Art, of Oxford. Lechmere, John.; Lechmere, Edmund, d. 1640? Conference mentioned by Doctour Featly in the end of his Sacrilege. 1635 (1635) STC 15351.3; ESTC S108377 255,450 637

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c._n 16._o undistract_v that_o it_o be_v the_o fault_n of_o man_n overhastie_a and_o undiscreetlie_o rash_a to_o determine_v the_o supposition_n of_o the_o pronowne_n hoc_fw-la before_o the_o neither_o do_v hoc_fw-la of_o itself_o determine_v that_o precise_a instant_n wherein_o it_o be_v utter_v the_o thing_n demonstrate_v may_v follow_v that_o instant_n or_o moment_n when_o the_o proposition_n be_v speculative_a much_o more_o when_o it_o be_v practic_a and_o be_v cause_n of_o the_o thing_n signify_v nomen_fw-la &_o pronomen_fw-la secundum_fw-la grammaticos_fw-la non_fw-la consignificat_fw-la tempus_fw-la sed_fw-la verbo_fw-la id_fw-la competit_fw-la quare_fw-la demonstratio_fw-la per_fw-la se_fw-la pronominis_fw-la abstrahit_fw-la a_o tempore_fw-la scilicet_fw-la &_o quo_fw-la prosertur_fw-la pronomen_fw-la &_o quo_fw-la terminatur_fw-la totius_fw-la orationis_fw-la prolatio_fw-la say_v soto_n cite_v in_o the_o censure_n p._n 501._o in_o the_o relation_n of_o s._n f._n pag._n 80._o 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