Selected quad for the lemma: water_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
water_n	ghost_n	holy_a	spirit_n	10,746	5	5.4766	4	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A12552	The character of the beast, or, The false constitution of the church discovered in certayne passages betwixt Mr. R. Clifton & Iohn Smyth, concerning true Christian baptisme of new creatures, or new borne babes in Christ, &nd false baptisme of infants borne after the flesh : referred to two propositions, 1. That infants are not to bee baptized, 2. That antichristians converted are to bee admitted into the true church by baptisme.	Smyth, John, d. 1612.	1609 (1609)	STC 22875; ESTC S991	85,221	80

2.11.12_o &_o that_o in_o as_o large_a &_o ample_a manner_n if_o not_o more_o ample_a then_o to_o the_o israelit_n for_o of_o they_o only_o be_v the_o male_n circumcise_v but_o by_o baptism_n be_v both_o male_n &_o female_n seal_v and_o this_o must_v follow_v necessary_o or_o else_o the_o covenant_n by_o the_o come_n of_o je._n chr._n shall_v be_v more_o restrain_v ●hen_o it_o be_v under_o the_o law_n who_o come_v to_o ratify_v &_o confirm_v that_o whole_o as_o the_o apostle_n say_v 2._o cor._n 1._o 20._o the_o promise_n of_o god_n be_v in_o he_o yea_o &_o amen_o etc._n etc._n for_o god_n give_v it_o with_o the_o seal_n thereof_o to_o abraham_n &_o his_o infant_n &_o if_o christ_n shall_v give_v it_o unto_o we_o only_o &_o not_o to_o our_o infant_n this_o be_v to_o lessen_v &_o infringe_v the_o covenant_n &_o not_o to_o con●●●●_n all_o but_o to_o take_v away_o part_n of_o that_o which_o god_n before_o have_v give_v john_n smyth_n your_o second_o argument_n follow_v from_o coll._n 2.11.12_o which_o be_v frame_v thus_o if_o circumcision_n belong_v to_o faithful_a abraham_n &_o his_o seed_n yea_o to_o such_o as_o be_v but_o infant_n then_o do_v baptism_n also_o aperteyne_a to_o all_o believer_n &_o to_o their_o seed_n be_v infant_n but_o the_o first_o be_v true_a gen._n 17.10_o ergo_fw-la the_o second_o the_o reason_n of_o the_o consequent_a be_v double_a 1._o for_o that_o baptism_n come_v in_o place_n of_o circumcision_n as_o a_o seal_n of_o the_o same_o promise_n to_o we_o &_o our_o seed_n col._n 2.11.12_o 2._o for_o that_o the_o covenant_n must_v be_v as_o large_o seal_v up_o to_o we_o as_o to_o they_o therefore_o to_o our_o female_n as_o well_o as_o male_n &_o infant_n as_o well_o as_o person_n of_o year_n for_o the_o covenant_n in_o christ_n be_v not_o lessen_v but_o of_o as_o large_a extent_n now_o as_o then_o 2._o cor._n 1.20_o see_v in_o christ_n all_o the_o promise_n of_o god_n be_v yea_o &_o amen_n i_o answer_v that_o this_o argument_n be_v build_v upon_o the_o same_o false_a ground_n with_o the_o former_a a_o mere_a mistake_n of_o the_o covenant_n &_o seal_v &_o seed_n &_o their_o be_v manifest_a violence_n commit_v upon_o the_o scripture_n by_o pervert_v &_o wrest_v it_o to_o false_a consequent_n first_o therefore_o i_o deny_v the_o consequence_n &_o i_o give_v reason_n of_o my_o denial_n 1._o because_o circumcision_n do_v not_o aperteyne_a to_o abraham_n &_o his_o infant_n as_o a_o seal_n of_o the_o everlasting_a covenant_n of_o life_n &_o salvation_n but_o of_o the_o external_a temporary_a covenant_n of_o the_o land_n of_o canaan_n &_o of_o obedience_n to_o the_o law_n of_o moses_n &_o therefore_o though_o circumcision_n aperteyn_v to_o abraham_n &_o his_o carnal_a infant_n as_o a_o seal_n of_o the_o external_a covenant_n yet_o it_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o baptism_n belong_v to_o the_o faithful_a &_o their_o carnal_a infant_n as_o a_o seal_n of_o the_o spiritual_a covenant_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n make_v in_o respect_n of_o christ_n 2._o second_o because_o the_o believer_n do_v not_o occupy_v abraham_n place_n in_o the_o covenant_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n because_o abraham_n be_v the_o father_n of_o all_o the_o faithful_a but_o no_o man_n though_o never_o so_o holy_a have_v that_o perrogative_n to_o be_v the_o father_n of_o the_o faithful_a therefore_o abraham_n receave_v the_o faithful_a into_o his_o bosom_n luk._n ●6_n 23_o 3._o three_o because_o the_o infant_n of_o the_o faithful_a do_v not_o possess_v the_o place_n of_o the_o true_a child_n of_o abraham_n the_o father_n of_o the_o faithful_a but_o possess_v the_o place_n of_o the_o typical_a child_n of_o abraham_n according_a to_o the_o flesh_n &_o therefore_o the_o disproportion_n be_v in_o all_o these_o particular_n the_o consequence_n of_o the_o argument_n be_v weak_a &_o insufficient_a but_o if_o you_o will_v make_v true_a consequent_n you_o must_v reason_n from_o the_o type_n to_o the_o truth_n proportionable_o &_o not_o from_o the_o type_n to_o the_o type_n as_o this_o argument_n import_v neither_o must_v you_o confound_v the_o covenant_n &_o seal_n as_o you_o do_v but_o must_v make_v all_o thing_n distinct_a &_o proportionable_a the_o one_o to_o the_o other_o as_o thus_o abraham_n the_o father_n of_o the_o carnal_a infant_n abraham_n the_o father_n of_o the_o faithful_a carnal_a abraham_n &_o his_o carnal_a seed_n carnal_o circumcise_v so_o faithful_a abraham_n &_o his_o faithful_a child_n spiritual_o circumcise_v the_o carnal_a infant_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n carnal_o circumcise_v the_o spiritual_a infant_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n that_o be_v man_n regenerate_v baptize_v thus_o you_o see_v the_o disproportion_n of_o your_o argument_n &_o the_o true_a proportion_n that_o you_o ought_v to_o have_v make_v if_o your_o argument_n have_v be_v good_a but_o let_v we_o see_v the_o reason_n of_o your_o consequence_n &_o the_o scripture_n you_o do_v produce_v for_o the_o confirmation_n of_o they_o you_o say_v that_o baptism_n come_v in_o the_o ●ome_v of_o circumcision_n as_o a_o seal_n of_o the_o same_o promise_n to_o we_o &_o our_o seed_n i_o utter_o deny_v it_o &_o i_o prove_v the_o contrary_a unto_o you_o see_v that_o the_o circumcision_n of_o the_o hart_n succeed_v in_o the_o place_n of_o circumcise_n the_o flesh_n ronvere_n 2.29_o &_o circumcision_n make_v without_o hand_n come_v in_o the_o place_n of_o circumcision_n make_v with_o hand_n col._n 2.11_o compare_v with_o eph._n 2.11_o &_o circumcision_n the_o seal_n of_o the_o flesh_n have_v the_o h._n spirit_n of_o promise_n which_o be_v the_o spiritual_a seal_n to_o succeed_v in_o place_n thereof_o eph._n 1.13.14_o which_o seal_n of_o the_o spirit_n be_v the_o earnest_n of_o our_o inheritance_n as_o circumcision_n of_o the_o flesh_n be_v a_o earnest_n of_o the_o inheritance_n of_o the_o land_n of_o canaan_n to_o the_o carnal_a israelite_n &_o i_o desire_v to_o be_v inform_v in_o all_o the_o scripture_n where_o baptism_n be_v call_v a_o seal_n for_o i_o deny_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o water_n be_v the_o seal_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n though_o i_o can_v deny_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n be_v the_o seal_n i_o say_v therefore_o that_o the_o seal_n of_o the_o spirit_n must_v go_v before_o the_o baptism_n of_o water_n &_o as_o all_o the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v spiritual_a &_o yet_o visible_a so_o be_v the_o seal_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n spiritual_n &_o yet_o visible_a &_o theruppon_o man_n be_v visible_o seal_v with_o the_o spirit_n as_o cornelius_n company_n be_v act._n 10.47_o may_v challendg_v the_o baptism_n with_o water_n as_o peter_n there_o teach_v this_o visible_a seal_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v confession_n as_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n circumcision_n be_v their_o confession_n &_o baptism_n be_v not_o a_o seal_n but_o a_o manifestation_n of_o the_o seal_n you_o see_v therefore_o that_o baptism_n be_v not_o the_o seal_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n &_o that_o circumcision_n do_v not_o seal_v up_o the_o everlasting_a covenant_n to_o abraham_n &_o all_o his_o carnal_a seed_n now_o the_o place_n of_o col._n 2.11.12_o which_o you_o produce_v to_o prove_v that_o baptism_n come_v in_o the_o room_n of_o circumcision_n be_v not_o so_o to_o be_v construe_v but_o the_o apostle_n teach_v the_o virtue_n of_o chr._n circumcision_n &_o baptism_n which_o be_v mortify_v &_o bury_v of_o sin_n &_o resurrection_n from_o sin_n &_o the_o apost_n do_v not_o intend_v to_o teach_v that_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n baptism_n succeed_v for_o circumcision_n but_o he_o teach_v the_o virtue_n of_o ch._n circumcision_n &_o baptism_n in_o the_o faithful_a so_o that_o see_v circumcision_n be_v a_o seal_n of_o the_o promise_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n to_o the_o carnal_a seed_n &_o that_o the_o spirit_n be_v the_o seal_n of_o the_o promise_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n to_o the_o faithful_a seed_n of_o abraham_n therefore_o neither_o do_v baptism_n of_o water_n succeed_v circumcision_n neither_o do_v baptism_n with_o water_n seal_v up_o any_o promise_n to_o the_o faithful_a but_o only_o do_v visible_o declare_v what_o promise_v they_o already_o be_v partaker_n of_o viz_n of_o the_o spirit_n of_o promise_n again_o in_o your_o second_o reason_n you_o will_v infinuate_v a_o restraynt_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n 1._o baptism_n be_v not_o due_a to_o infant_n see_v circumcision_n be_v due_a to_o infant_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n i_o answer_v many_o way_n 1._o see_v that_o baptism_n do_v not_o succeed_v circumcision_n this_o alegation_n be_v nothing_o to_o the_o purpose_n 2._o see_v baptism_n be_v both_o to_o male_a &_o female_a it_o be_v large_a than_o circumcision_n which_o be_v only_o upon_o the_o male_a 3._o see_v that_o baptism_n be_v both_o to_o jew_n &_o gentil_n therefore_o

to_o contradict_v but_o the_o separation_n they_o say_v england_n have_v a_o false_a constitution_n &_o be_v a_o false_a chu_n &_o to_o be_v separate_v from_o &_o yet_o they_o say_v also_o england_n have_v a_o true_a baptism_n that_o be_v a_o true_a constitution_n which_o be_v not_o to_o be_v separate_v from_o for_o a_o true_a constitution_n &_o true_a baptism_n be_v one_o &_o the_o same_o so_o be_v a_o false_a constitution_n &_o a_o false_a baptism_n so_o that_o the_o speech_n &_o action_n of_o the_o separation_n be_v contradictory_n in_o this_o particular_a finaly_n they_o that_o defend_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n can_v with_o any_o truth_n or_o good_a conscience_n separate_a from_o england_n as_o from_o a_o false_a chu_n though_o they_o may_v separate_v for_o coruption_n &_o they_o that_o do_v separate_a from_o england_n as_o from_o a_o false_a chu_n must_v of_o snecessity_n separate_a from_o the_o baptism_n of_o england_n &_o account_v the_o baptism_n of_o england_n false_a &_o so_o account_v the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n false_a baptism_n therefore_o the_o separation_n must_v either_o go_v back_o to_o england_n or_o go_v forward_o to_o true_a baptism_n &_o all_o that_o shall_v in_o time_n to_o come_v separate_a from_o england_n must_v separate_a from_o the_o baptism_n of_o england_n &_o if_o they_o will_v not_o separate_a from_o the_o baptism_n of_o england_n their_o be_v no_o reason_n why_o they_o shall_v separate_v from_o england_n as_o from_o a_o false_a church_n &_o this_o be_v more_o at_o large_a prove_v in_o the_o second_o question_n of_o this_o discourse_n whither_o the_o reader_n be_v to_o be_v refer_v now_o concern_v this_o point_n of_o baptise_v infant_n we_o do_v profess_v before_o the_o l._n &_o before_o all_o man_n in_o sincerity_n &_o truth_n that_o it_o seem_v unto_o we_o the_o most_o unreasonable_a heresy_n of_o all_o antichristianisme_n for_o consider_v what_o baptism_n be_v a_o infant_n be_v no_o more_o capable_a of_o baptism_n than_o be_v any_o unreasonable_a or_o insensible_a creature_n for_o baptism_n be_v not_o wash_v with_o water_n but_o it_o be_v the_o baptism_n of_o the_o spirit_n the_o confession_n of_o the_o mouth_n &_o the_o wash_n with_o water_n how_o then_o can_v any_o man_n without_o great_a folly_n wash_v with_o water_n which_o be_v the_o least_o &_o last_o of_o baptism_n one_o that_o be_v not_o baptize_v with_o the_o spirit_n &_o can_v confess_v with_o the_o mouth_n or_o how_o be_v it_o baptism_n if_o one_o be_v so_o wash_v now_o that_o a_o infant_n can_v be_v baptize_v with_o the_o spirit_n be_v plain_a 1._o pet._n 3_o 21._o where_o the_o apostle_n say_v that_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o spirit_n be_v the_o question_n of_o a_o good_a conscience_n into_o god_n &_o heb._n 10.22_o where_o the_o baptism_n which_o be_v inward_a be_v call_v the_o sprinkle_n of_o the_o hart_n from_o a_o evil_a conscience_n see_v therefore_o infant_n neither_o have_v a_o evil_a conscience_n nor_o the_o question_n of_o a_o good_a conscience_n nor_o the_o purge_n of_o the_o hart_n for_o all_o these_o be_v proper_a to_o actual_a sinner_n hence_o it_o follow_v that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v folly_n &_o nothing_o again_o johns_n baptism_n be_v the_o baptism_n of_o repentance_n infant_n have_v not_o repentance_n &_o therefore_o can_v have_v the_o baptism_n of_o repentance_n that_o infant_n can_v have_v repentance_n be_v evident_a see_v repentance_n be_v knowledge_n of_o sin_n by_o the_o law_n sorrow_n for_o sin_n by_o the_o gospel_n mortification_n of_o sin_n &_o new_a obedience_n all_o which_o be_v as_o much_o in_o the_o basin_n of_o water_n as_o in_o the_o infant_n baptize_v now_o i_o confess_v the_o pedobaptist_n have_v many_o show_n of_o reason_n for_o the_o maintenance_n of_o their_o heresy_n &_o one_o man_n shape_v they_o into_o one_o form_n another_o man_n into_o a_o other_o as_o every_o man_n wit_n &_o learning_n teach_v he_o but_o indeed_o they_o be_v all_o build_v upon_o the_o self_n same_o sandy_a fondation_n the_o wrest_n of_o some_o place_n of_o scripture_n all_o which_o in_o a_o manner_n be_v discover_v in_o some_o measure_n in_o this_o treatise_n whereby_o the_o reader_n may_v perceive_v the_o manifest_a pervent_v of_o the_o scripture_n from_o their_o true_a sense_n now_o because_o man_n call_v for_o antiquity_n &_o except_o they_o see_v antiquity_n they_o will_v not_o believe_v though_o the_o scripture_n be_v the_o most_o ancient_a i_o have_v think_v good_a therefore_o to_o propound_v two_o pregnant_a testimony_n of_o antiquity_n beside_o that_o which_o be_v allege_v in_o the_o pag._n 30._o &_o 31._o of_o this_o treatise_n against_o baptism_n of_o infant_n that_o man_n may_v know_v that_o this_o truth_n also_o have_v her_o footstep_n among_o the_o father_n tertullianus_n lib._n de_fw-la baptismo_fw-la adversus_fw-la quintillam_fw-la have_v these_o word_n then_o which_o nothing_o be_v more_o plain_a itaque_fw-la pro_fw-la cujusque_fw-la personae_fw-la conditione_n dispositione_n etiam_fw-la aetate_fw-la cunctatio_fw-la baptismi_fw-la utilior_fw-la est_fw-la precipue_v tamen_fw-la circa_fw-la parvulos_fw-la quid_fw-la enim_fw-la necesse_fw-la est_fw-la si_fw-la non_fw-la tam_fw-la necesse_fw-la sponsores_fw-la etiam_fw-la periculo_fw-la ingeri_fw-la qui_fw-fr &_o ipsi_fw-la per_fw-la mortalitatem_fw-la destituere_fw-la promissiones_fw-la svas_fw-la possunt_fw-la &_o proventu_fw-la malae_fw-la indolis_fw-la falli_fw-la ait_fw-fr quidem_fw-la dominus_fw-la nolite_fw-la illos_fw-la pro_fw-la hibere_fw-la ad_fw-la i_o venire_fw-la veniant_fw-la ergo_fw-la dum_fw-la adolescunt_fw-la veniant_fw-la dum_fw-la discunt_fw-la dum_fw-la quo_fw-la veniant_fw-la docentur_fw-la fiant_fw-la christiani_n cum_fw-la christum_fw-la nosse_fw-la potuerint_fw-la quid_fw-la festinat_fw-la innocensaetas_fw-la ad_fw-la remissionem_fw-la peccatorum_fw-la cautius_fw-la agitur_fw-la in_o secularibus_fw-la ut_fw-la cvi_fw-la substantia_fw-la terrena_fw-la non_fw-la creditur_fw-la divina_fw-la credatur_fw-la norint_fw-la petere_fw-la salutem_fw-la ut_fw-la p●tenti_fw-la dedisse_fw-la videaris_fw-la that_o be_v to_o say_v in_o english_a therefore_o to_o defer_v &_o not_o to_o hasten_v baptism_n be_v more_o profitable_a for_o the_o condition_n disposition_n &_o age_n of_o every_o person_n but_o especial_o as_o concern_v young_a child_n for_o what_o necessity_n be_v there_o to_o bring_v suertye_n into_o danger_n for_o the_o baptise_v of_o infant_n if_o there_o be_v no_o such_o necessity_n of_o hasten_v the_o baptise_n of_o infant_n see_v the_o surety_n ofttimes_o be_v disable_v to_o perform_v their_o promise_n both_o by_o reason_n of_o mortality_n &_o of_o the_o evil_a disposition_n of_o some_o child_n when_o they_o come_v to_o year_n for_o wh●me_v they_o promise_v in_o baptism_n indeed_o the_o l._n say_v forbid_v they_o not_o to_o come_v unto_o i_o therefore_o let_v they_o come_v to_o chr._n but_o let_v they_o come_v when_o they_o be_v grow_v when_o they_o learn_v &_o when_o they_o be_v teach_v to_o what_o they_o come_v let_v they_o by_o baptism_n be_v make_v christian_n when_o they_o can_v know_v chr._n by_o instruction_n why_o do_v the_o innocent_a age_n hasten_v to_o the_o remission_n of_o sin_n we_o deal_v more_o safe_o in_o worldly_a matter_n shall_v we_o commit_v heavenly_a thing_n to_o young_a child_n unto_o who_o we_o dare_v not_o commit_v our_o earthly_a substance_n let_v they_o first_o know_v how_o to_o ask_v salvation_n that_o so_o we_o may_v seem_v to_o give_v to_o he_o that_o ask_v euseb_n ecclest_a hist_o lib._n 10._o chap._n 15._o athanasius_n his_o baptise_v of_o child_n in_o spirit_n that_o answer_v according_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o catechumeni_fw-la be_v approve_v by_o alex._n lib._n of_o alexa._n &_o his_o clerk_n whence_o it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o these_o child_n baptize_v by_o athanasius_n be_v unbaptise_v &_o yet_o know_v the_o manner_n of_o baptism_n as_o be_v child_n bear_v in_o the_o chu_n so_o that_o by_o this_o place_n &_o all_o other_o place_n of_o the_o eclesi_n hist_o where_o like_a mention_n be_v make_v of_o the_o child_n of_o christian_n first_o catechize_v &_o then_o baptize_v it_o may_v easy_o be_v discern_v that_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o yet_o universal_o receive_v but_o by_o little_a &_o little_o prevail_v as_o other_o antich_n heresy_n have_v do_v in_o respect_n whereof_o origen_n august_n cyprian_a &_o all_o the_o papist_n with_o one_o consent_n acknowledge_v it_o a_o tradition_n of_o the_o church_n and_o thus_o much_o for_o the_o testimony_n of_o antiquity_n which_o hereafter_o shall_v be_v produce_v more_o plentiful_o upon_o further_a occasion_n offer_v if_o the_o separation_n or_o any_o other_o dare_v adventure_v the_o trial_n of_o the_o matter_n out_o of_o antiquity_n but_o there_o be_v one_o &_o indeed_o but_o one_o argument_n which_o the_o separation_n principaly_fw-fr stand_v upon_o &_o that_o be_v the_o covenant_n which_o say_v they_o if_o it_o be_v answer_v they_o must_v ned●_n yield_v unto_o the_o truth_n now_o although_o this_o argument_n be_v answer_v in_o this_o write_n even_o to_o the_o