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A20030	A defence of tabacco vvith a friendly answer to the late printed booke called Worke for chimny-sweepers, &c.	Marbecke, Roger, 1536-1605.	1602 (1602)	STC 6468; ESTC S109505	41,491	72

good spices as well with meat as also in their daily drinke suppinses and cawdels and yet for any thing that either you or I can see God be thanked there comes no hurt at all in the world thereby But why it should destroy and consume natura●● heate and moisture as you affirme which are the principals of our life in truth I vnderstand not vnlesse as I said the takers thereof should make whole meales thereof which I am sure no man doth For then indeed it may be it would worke that effect and so would all your cordiall spices do also if men should in that disorderly maner feede on them as to make whole meales thereof Whereas now being moderately taken and yet daily too they be great preseruers of health in most sort of men or rather in all kind of complexions as a●l men I am sure will confesse That which is added out of Aristotle O●ne simile additum simili reddit ipsum simile magis simile maketh lit●e for your purpose For as your selfe confesseth that Contraria contrarijs curantur so I thinke you are as willing to confesse also that similia similibus nutriuntur Now ●ir if Tabacco be hote and drie as you put downe that it is and the cholericke man hote likewise and then if ●●ke be increased with like as Aristotle saith or if like be nourished maintained and preserued with like as Ph●sitions affirme then like inough it is that the choleric●e mans complexion is rather preserued by Tabacco then destroyed presupposed alwaies if it be moderately taken It may be you will here haue a kind of euasion and a certaine starting hole and I guesse well inough what it is yet neuerthelesse I will not name it But for anything that is yet said of you to the contrarie this argument holdeth and so it shall rest for me Moreouer that Principle of Aristotle Omne simile additum simili c. must haue a nice interpretation and must be rightly vnderstood or else it is like inough I tell you to breede an errour Like increaseth like you say It is true but yet in quantitie it increaseth it and not in qualitie vnlesse that same like be in a higher and stronger degree of qualitie and likenesse And yet how it should then rightly be called like being by reason of a higher degree vnlike for my part I see not As for example hote water being put to as hote water maketh not that hote wa●er hotter then it was vnto the which it is put It may well increase the substance and quantitie of that hote water but yet not the heate and quality thereof Then vnlesse Tabacco be hotter then choler which will be very hard to proue it cannot increase choler in heate and qualitie But if it be colder in power and qualitie as I thinke it will fall out that it is then doth it rather abate and suppresse the heate of choler then increase it For warme water yea though it be good and warme water yet because it is not so hote as scalding hote water is being put to scalding hote water it doth not increase his heate a whit but rather cooleth it I warrant you try it when you will Touching the great store of vndigested and crude humors which are the effects of immoderate heates in vs as you affirme and so consequently are cause and occasion of hote feuers I see no cause of any such feare by Tabacco For if daily experience may serue for a sufficient proofe of the contrarie I for my part haue seene none at all neither hath any man else I am sure knowne any or at the least very few among so many thousands that daily take it that haue fallen into agues directly vpon the taking of Tabacco and therefore euen by that experiment also it doth seeme vnto me that the taking thereof especially in fume which as your selfe graunteth hath very small force to worke any great matter vpon our bodies can cause no such fierie and extreame heate in the bodie as is by you supposed but rather if it do giue any heate yet that heate is rather a familiar and a pleasing heate then an immoderate extraordinarie and an aguish distemperature And as for them that affirme Agues to be cured by Tabacco as you say if any vnlearned so say in my iudgement it is an vnsauory speech without sence or methode and I leaue it to them that so say to defend it as they can But it may be you mistake them Possible it is that their saying yea and their meaning too is thus that in the curing of Agues Tabacco may haue his good vse if he be rightly vsed as well as other purgatiues haue And that opinion well vnderstood is not greatly amisse For if Purgations being done in good order and conueniently giuen in their due times and seasons be one of the especiall helpes to rid and cure rotten Agues as you know it is then it is like inough that Tabacco by his purging facultie may do much good by taking away the cause of the Ague as other Purgations do For if you thinke it can do no good that way because it is hote and drie then by that reason likewise no Purgatiues in a maner that the old auncient writers did vse can do any good that way For that they were all or most of them of the same nature hote and dry as for example Elleborus Colocinth Elatery Esulus Scammony which was not onely vsed by them in a manner altogether but at this day also is one of the most common and vsuallest things that we haue especially in our great and magistrall compositions As for the daunger that you presuppose is in the often vse of Tabacco to them that be in health for dissipating consuming that wholesome humor by often vomits seeges sweatings spittings and coughings which otherwise would be turned to good bloud and nourishment and all this to be done to by the fume of Tabacco which by and by vanisheth away as all smokes do In my fancy all this is but a meere imagination and directly against that which your selfe hath sayd already affirming that the fume hath no great force to worke any matter of moment in our bodies as also flat against common and daily experience For neither I nor you nor any man else in my opiniō euer did see that the fume for of that your talke must be or else you talke to no purpose which is the thing onely that is in daily vse did euer worke any great purgings or vomits or sweates or if it did at any time yet it was by a meere accident and chance which is nothing to purpose As for the other humidities which as you say it prouoketh from the braine and other parts of the head a man may thinke that those things may as conueniently be done and with as litle hurt or danger with Tabacco as we see them daily done by your Errhinaes and Nasaliaes and Sternutatories which are vsually giuen

the smoke of a thing worketh no such operation or increaseth not melancholie as you presuppose that it doth let me giue you another instance by another plaine demonstration Behold your poore ploughmen that liue continually in smokie houses and your blacke Smiths that are still moyling in sea-coale fire all the day long and Grim the Colier that is all his life time almost in continuall smoke in somuch as in a maner he feedes vpon it and tell me if you find many melancholie men among them All to be smeered perchaunce you shall haue them with smoke and soote on the outside and with foule blacke quarrie scorched hands but yet you shall see them as merrie and as madde knaues with as white teeth and as good complexions as any men aliue and as litle touched with sadnesse or melancholie as he that is least subiect to that disease Vnlesse it be sometime now and then when the poore Colier is set vpon the Pillorie for false measuring his coales then perchaunce he may be somewhat sad and melancholie for the time while his fooles head stands peeping out at the Pillorie hole But assoone as he hath giuen them the slip and gotten his head once from the Pillorie and is gone but some two or three miles out of London he is as merrie againe as a Cricket and all to be-knaues the Marshall for his labour and biddes him come now and he dare to fetch him to the Pillorie againe What must poore smoke being so light a thing and so soone vapoured away and so and so taken as your selfe hath described and by and by let out againe must smoke I say needes haue so great a force as to increase such a sad soure humor as melancholie Is no possibly as Domingo was woont to say Marrie if the smoke were a matter of solide substance so that it might be chewed as other meates are and swallowed downe and concocted and digested and then distributed and conueyed by the veines to the particular parts of the bodie to feede and cherish them then perchaunce vpon this long abode in the truncke of our bodie and vpon the thorough fermenting and working of it selfe into the whole masse or lumpe of our bloud that giueth vs nourishment if all this I say were done or might be done then perchaunce you had somewhat to say and to warne good Students to take heede how they did meddle with Tabacco for feare of increase of melancholie Otherwise in my iudgement this needlesse feare of yours doth somewhat sauour of melancholie in your selfe For you know that melancholie men be sad and fearefull non timenda timent which is one of the chiefest properties of a melancholie person And thus much briefly touching the smoke of Tabacco But now sir it may be your opinion is also that Tabacco increaseth melancholie and worketh this great daunger and offence by his purging facultie and this perchaunce is that which you seeme to glaunce at by the way when you say that it auoideth that liquid Phlegmaticke matter which would be good nourishment and that which otherwise should be mingled with the rest of our bloud and giue a moisture to the drinesse of melancholie and so keepe all things in good tune and temper c. If this be your opinion that b●cause the smoke of Tabacco maketh the takers thereof to spit a litle and to auoid by the mouth some waterish matter that therefore I say when it is vsed in purging it will purge the like matter also as it seemes you do make your chiefest argument vpon that point then I say that euen in this point also either you are or you may be deceiued For there be many things that will prouoke a man to spit much and yet they will not purge at all As for example take but Mastich and chew it vp and down in your mouth and you shall spit for life and yet it is no purgatiue The like may be said of an vnripe sharpe sower apple or the like for it will not onely do so to the eater thereof but also prouoke the stander by sometime to spit and spattle as much and more too as I haue seene And thereof I thinke comes this English Prouerbe That a mans teeth doth water at this or at that c. And here is to be noted by the way and it is worth the noting too and hath bene remembred alreadie in another place before that of that same liquid moist matter which you so much talke of and make it so necessarie and precious a thing as you do in all your discourse there is I say such store and plentie of it in our bodies for the most part and it is at all times so readie at hand to come at a call that there neede be no feare at all of spending of that moisture by the vse of Tabacco especially to vs that are English men and Ilanders as hath bene declared alreadie before But here you come vpon me and say Yea sir but Tabacco is a Purgatiue there is no question of that and because it is a Purgatiue therefore it must needs purge the like matter by the bellie which it doth auoid by the mouth and that is Phleame and other liquide matter and humiditie and in purging of that it maketh melancholie the drier and so consequently it maketh it the worse c. No not so good sir and to answer this obiection fully I doubt not but that you do know right wel● that as touching purgatiue medicines there be two opinions of antiquitie The one affirmeth that they do purge by election and are called El●ctiuè purgantia which is as much to say as that they do purge with a kind of choice or iudgement either this or that humor alone or else some one humor more then any other And yet those Electiuè purgantia do not so make speciall choise of that onely one humor alone as a Deere is wont to be singled out from the rest of the heard and so had in chace by himselfe alone without any other but their meaning is that those Purgatiues do expell and auoid some one humour more then the rest indeed which they do most fancie and haue a liking vnto but yet with that principall humor some one or other humor too may in part be expelled and auoided at the same instant as you and I do know many of those electiue Purgatiues which do purge some one yea some two nay some three humors all at one time though not all those humors indifferently at one time but they shall not be named by me of purpose because I thinke it not meete to acquaint the vulgar sort with any such secrets The other opinion is and those be iolly fellowes too I can tell you that be the authors of it That there are no purgatiues at all by election or choi●e which are called Electiuè purgantia as I haue told you but that all purgatiues do purge promiscuè or as a man would say a