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A02483	An ansvvere to a treatise vvritten by Dr. Carier, by way of a letter to his Maiestie vvherein he layeth downe sundry politike considerations; by which hee pretendeth himselfe was moued, and endeuoureth to moue others to be reconciled to the Church of Rome, and imbrace that religion, which he calleth catholike. By George Hakewil, Doctour of Diuinity, and chapleine to the Prince his Highnesse.	Hakewill, George, 1578-1649.; Carier, Benjamin, 1566-1614. Treatise written by Mr. Doctour Carier.; Carier, Benjamin, 1566-1614. Copy of a letter, written by M. Doctor Carier beyond seas, to some particular friends in England.	1616 (1616)	STC 12610; ESTC S103612	283,628	378

will giue occasion to increase their wickednesse and make it greater then it was before This I take to be the substance and effect of that wee hold touching this point and I doubt not but the vndertaking of my deceased fellow Chaplaine may bee made good in shewing euery parcell of this doctrine in the writings of those who either liue or died in profession members of the Church of Rome To conclude then God predestinateth no man to bee a Traitour or a Theefe but foreseeing hee will bee so hee determineth to make vse of their theft or treason for the aduancement of his owne glory and the aduantage of his Church and children hee being in himselfe so good as hee would suffer none euill in the world were hee not withall so powerfull as out of euery euill to draw some good as by the same power hee brought light out of darkenesse and caused water abundantly to flowe out of the hard and drie rocke B. C. 13. Here I know the great masters of schisme will neuer leaue obiecting the horrible treason of certaine Catholikes against your Maiesty which if the deuill had not wrought to their hands they had had little to say against Catholikes before this day But I humbly intreat that the fact of some few men may not for euer bee obiected against the trueth of a general rule It is not the question which religion will make all your subiects true but which religion is most likely to make all true It is certaine there bee traitours against God and man of all religions and Catholikes as they are the best subiects so when they fall to it they are the worst traitours But if we will looke vpon examples or consider of reasons the Catholike is the onely religion which as it doth duely subordinate kings vnto God so doth it effectually binde subiects to performe all lawfull obedience vnto their kings I will not repeat examples because the ancient are tedious and the present are odious but if there can be but one king named in all the world that did euer receiue honour from Caluinists farther then to bee their champion or protectour vntill their turne were serued then I may be content to beleeue that your Maiesty and your family shall receiue perpetuity from them But if your Caluinists doe professe to honour you and all other Caluinists doe ouerthrow their kings and princes wheresoeuer they can preuaile I can hardly beleeue that yours meane any more good earnest then the rest There is certainely some other matter that they are contented for a time to honour your Maiesty it cannot bee their religion ties them to it for it doeth not tie them to it selfe There is no principle of any religion nor no article of any faith which a Caluinist will not call in question and either altogether deny or expound after his owne fancie and if he be restrained he cries out by and by he cannot haue the liberty of his conscience and what bound of obedience can there be in such a religion G. H. 13. The world is now come to a good passe that those who obiect the haynousnesse of horrible treasons shall carrie the title of the great masters of schisme But notwithstanding we bee held Schismatikes for our labour we will not leaue to obiect it and not onely to obiect it but crie and thunder against it being as his Maiesty hath rightly obserued not onely a crying sinne of blood but a roaring and thundering sinne of fire and brimstone and the rather for that we doe not therein so much obiect the fact of those who were to be the actours in it as the rules of those their ghostly fathers and spirituall guides who were acquainted with it and consenting to it some of whom haue since bene apologized by the pens of Romish writers and other some protected and countenanced in or by the court of Rome it selfe One reports it that the Pope caused the massacre of Paris what time in diuers places of France were murdered about 60000 persons to bee painted in his palace it should seeme ad perpetuam rei memoriam lest so extreme wickednesse should be forgotten So no doubt should this Powder worke haue bene painted by it if it had not miscaried saue that no art could haue imitated the confusion no colour haue represented so barbarous cruelty What staine could shadow the blood of so royall Princes what red were sufficient to paint the blood of so many and noble Christians what blacke the darknesse of that day what azure the vnmercifulnesse of that fire what deuise what inuention could haue expressed the wofull crie of the innocent and the infernall noise of the blow it was the vttermost point of all villeny beyond which is terra incognita no man can deuise what should bee betweene Hell and it and shall they then bee reputed masters of schisme who obiect the foulenesse of a treason by your owne confession so horrible then let our greatest Bishops our wisest Counsellours our grauest Iudges and our Soueraigne himselfe bee all accounted the great Masters of schisme who describe it by so much more liuely then others in as much as they looked more narrowly into the particular veines and bowels of the plot were more capable to conceiue the vast extent of the mischiefe likely to haue ensued vpon it and lastly were more sensible of the horrour of it in regard of their owne danger Yet thus much we all conceiue that if all the deuils and damned spirits in hell together with all the reprobates on earth should meet in Conclaue and set all their inuentions aworke to the vttermost they could neuer finde out againe the like hellish and damnable designe But had not the deuill you say wrought this to their handes we had litle to say against Catholikes before this day As if the Bull of Pius Quintus the intiteling of the Spaniard to the kingdome of Ireland the rebellion of Northumberland and Westmerland were now quite forgotten or the practises of Sommeruile set aworke by Hall a Seminary Priest of Spaine furnished at the Popes charge with fiftie other resolutes of Throgmorton sollicited by Bernardine Mendoza the Spanish Leiger Ambassadour lying in London of Parry incouraged by Cardinall Comoes perswasion of Ballard and Babington together with twelue other gentlemen imboldened by the same Mendoza of Stanly apologized by Cardinall Allen of Cullen an Irish fencer hired by Stanly for thirty pound of Lopez a phisitian and Portugall by birth set a worke by Christophero de Moro a speciall counseller of the king of Spaine for a iewel of gold garnished with a great diamond and a large rubie in hand and the promise of 50000. crownes more to bee pay●d of Yorke and Williams intised by Holt a Iesuite and Owen an English fugitiue and Spanish pensioner lastly of Squire animated and instructed by Walpoole were not yet fresh in memory besides infinite other

to any man of iudgement whereof a chiefe one is his Maiesties vndertaking the cause in writing wherein wee are bound to blesse God that hath set such a King ouer vs whom he hath indowed with such singular gifts as to giue occasion to such an Obiection Hee was no foole that pronounced that Cōmon-wealth happy where learned men had the gouernment or the gouernors were learned and another who holds those wise men in the Gospel who came from the East are therefore held Kings because they were learned which I speake not to derogate frō other Kings but to thanke God for our owne whose drops that fall both from his tongue and Pen are as the Prophet Dauid speakes in another case like raine falling vpon the mowen grasse or as showers that water the earth We haue read in our own Chronicles of one Bladud a Brittish King who studied at Athens of Alured a Saxon King who translated the Psalter into his own language of Henry a Norman King who for his great schollership was surnamed the Beauclarke but for a King only Dauid and Salomon excepted that hath written so much and so well as his Maiestie exposing it to publike censure hath left it as an euerlasting monumēt of his name to posterity for mine owne part I must confesse in my small reading I haue not met with any either in our owne or forreine History Some Kings haue done some what in this kinde but hee excelleth them all so that for a Christian King to write and to publish his writings to the world euen in matter of Religion is not without example The Booke of Charlemaine in defence of the decree of the Synode of Frankeford which himselfe had thither called and against the Canons of the second Nicene Council touching the controuersie of adoring images is yet extant to bee seene in the Palatine library so is it acknowledged by Augustinus Steuchus in his second booke of Constantines donation where hee presses some things in that Booke for the Popes aduantage Howbeit Bellarmine in his second Booke of Images and 15th Chapter labourto prooue the contrary granting that it was sent by that Emperour to Pope Adrian but not as his owne His Maiesties Bookes aswell the former in defence of the Oath of Allegeance as the later by way of Premonition to the Christian States are no doubt as great corrasiues and eyesores to you as to vs they are cordiall and comfortable and cannot be but to him as dishonourable if hee should recall them as now they are honourable if hee continue constant to himselfe and them Now that they should proceede rather from the instigation of others then his owne disposition is a surmise of your owne I know not whether more foolish as being ignorant of that which hee had both written and spoken and done since hee came to yeeres of discretion conformably thereunto or dishonest in calling his Maiesties singular wisedome into question in suffering himselfe to bee so farre abused as vnwittingly to bee sent on other mens errands and to serue other mens turnes Howsoeuer there is nothing you say in that booke by which you cannot but vnderstand both the Premonition and the Apologie both bound together in one volume and titled together in one front why his Maiestie may not when he please admit the Popes Supremacie in Spirituals wherein first you dash though peraduenture vnawares against your great Cardinal who in his Letter to Blackwell professeth that in whatsoeuer words the Oath of Allegeance in defence of which his Maiestie wrote his Apologie bee conceiued it tends to none other end but that the authorie of the head of the Church of England may bee transferred from the Successour of S. Peter to the Successour of K. Henry the VIII this indeed he affirmes falsly but both in his Tortus against his Maiesties Apologie and in his Apologie against his Maiesties Premonition hee affirmeth truely that the vsurped Supremacy of the Bishop of Rome is in them both impugned And I cannot but marueile at such shamelesse impudencie as dares thus to write to his Maiestie touching his owne writings whose very words toward the later end of his Apologie are these discoursing before of the Supremacie of K. Henry the VIII in Church-matters for which Bishop Fisher and Sir Thomas Moore were pretended to haue suffered I am sure saith hee that the Supremacie of Kings may and will euer be better maintained by the word of God which must euer be the true rule to discerne all weighty heads of doctrine by to bee the true and proper office of Christian Kings in their owne dominions then hee will euer be able to maintaine his annihilating Kings and their authorities together with his base and vnreuerent speaches of them wherewith both his former great volumes and his late bookes against Venice are filled Where he goes on and proues this Supremacie aswell by the Old as the New Testament and the practise both of the Kings of Israel and the Christian Emperours in the Primitiue Church both explaning and iustifying the Oath of Supremacie as it is by him imposed and taken by vs and in his Premonition written afterward though set before in the Booke he is so cleere in this point that Mr. Dr. cannot but stand conuinced either of grosse negligēce in not reading or vnpardonable forgetfulnes in not remembring what he had read His Maiesties words are these But as I well allow of the Hierarchie of the Church for distinction of orders for so I vnderstand it so I vtterly deny that there is an earthly Monarch thereof whose word must be a Law and who cannot erre in his sentence by an infabilitie of spirit Because earthly Kingdomes must haue earthly Monarchies it doth not follow that the Church must haue a visible Monarch too for the world hath not one earthly Temporall Monarch Christ is his Churches Monarch and the holy Ghost his Deputie Reges gentium dominantur eorum vos autem non sic Christ did not promise before his Ascension to leaue Peter with them to direct and instruct them in all things but he promised to send the holy Ghost vnto them to that end And for these two before cited places whereby Bellarmine maketh the Pope to triumph ouer Kings I meane Pasce oues and Tibi dabo claues the Cardinall knowes well enough the same wo●●s of Tibi dabo are in another place spoken by Christ in the plurall number and hee likewise knowes what reasons the ancients doe giue why Christ bade Peter Pasce oues and also what a cloud of witnesses there is both of ancients and euen of late Popish Writers yea diuers Cardinals that doe all agree that both these speeches vsed to Peter were meant to all the Apostles represented in his person otherwise how could Paul direct the Church of Corinth to excommunicate the Incestuous person Cum Spiritu suo whereas he should then haue sayed Cum Spiritu Petri and how could all the