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A28850 A treatise of Communion under both species by James Benigne Bossuet.; Traité de la communion sous les doux espèces. English. Bossuet, Jacques Bénigne, 1627-1704. 1685 (1685) Wing B3792; ESTC R24667 102,656 385

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