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A34433 The font uncover'd for infant-baptisme, or, An answer to the challenges of the Anabaptists of Stafford, never yet reply'd unto, though long since promised wherein the baptisme of all church-members infants is by plain Scripture-proof maintained to be the will of Jesus Christ, and many points about churches and their constitutions are occasionally handled / by William Cook, late minister of the Gospel at Ashby-Delazouch. Cook, William, Minister of the gospel at Ashby-Delazouch. 1651 (1651) Wing C6042; ESTC R1614 62,529 56

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