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A93844 A plain discovery of the unrighteous judge and false accuser wherein is soberly ... brought to light ... the spirit of that pamphlet, intituled, The leper cleansed ... by Richard Ballamy ... as also, a clear vindication of ... Anabaptists ... / by Robert Steed and Abraham Cheare ... Steed, Robert, of Dartmouth. 1658 (1658) Wing S5376B; ESTC R223912 66,136 82

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for the promise is to you Here I desire the reader to take notice how the word of command depends upon the word of promise and what an inseparable union and connexion there is between the command and the promise Answer It is a most false and sensless inference the right to the promise we grant to be the ground of the Apostles perswasion to repentance and baptism but it is no ground of a persons being baptized without repentance neither is it so layd down by the Lord or by the Apostle But observe the dealing of this man he requires baptism saith he v. 38. and what next shews the reason v. 39. the promise is to you and to your children and then on he runs that the word of command depends upon the word of promise with an inseparable union and connexion without taking notice of the conditional qualification of repentance no less in the command as he hath devised to call it then baptism yea antecedent to it What wonder if a corrupt mind drive a person headlong to maintain a justification of smaller by greater evils Having first found out in the Apostles declaration of a right to the promise in persons in order to conversion that the same imports a right in a visible Church-state That here again he also hath found out a command for baptism disjoyned from a comand to repent with an inseparable union and connexion directly against the letter of the text Accuser The same reason alleadged by the Apostle why the parent should be baptised is rendred by the same Apostle as a reason why the children should be baptised for the promise is to you and to your children Answer Let the accuser whoever he be enjoy what he demands we consent to him herein that the reason of the baptism of the parent is the reason of the baptism of the child but the reason of the baptism of the parent by vertue of this right in the promise cannot take effect at all or for ever without the qualification of repentance and if the reason rendred by the Apostle be the same for the baptising of the child then it must bring repentance with it to the water as the Eunuch did faith to Philip or it can receive no baptism if the Apostles reason be rightly alleadged Accuser Nay the very same command expressed to baptise the one is implyed to baptise the other for if some or any to whom the promise is made may not be baptised there can be no force in the Apostles argument Answer We are not willing to contend with our opponent about small matters to wit how the Apostles counsel or exhortation Repent and be baptized may pass by the name of a command But having layd down a truth for the substance in what he first affirmeth we shall joyn issue with him in it 1 we consent that the command to be baptized to parent and child is one Then what saith the comand Repent and be baptized We answer What God hath joyned together let no man put asunder The accuser was telling but now of an inseparable connexion he might have better observed it here then where he sought it But 2 Though we approve our accuser in the first part of what he affirms yet we must leave him to himself to make good his reason viz. If any to whom the promise is made may not be baptized then there is no force in the Apostles argument We make no question but that notwithstanding the multitude of Converts at this Sermon yet there were very many Jews to whom this promise was made equally with those that were converted who persisted in their obstinacy and thereby rendred themselves and their children incapable of baptism upon the Accusers own Principles nevertheless the Argument the Apostle made use of was not therefore without force because they might not be baptized The Accuser having put an end to the cruel torture with which he hath racked the Scripture beyond all bounds of sobriety he leads you to see his fair fruits of better information where we believe you will finde enough to discover the person 's very great want of a sober Spirit to say no more Accuser Thus the Lord satisfied me about Infant-baptism being thus satisfied I went to hear the publick Ministery but this coming to the ears of the Anabaptists there came three of their Society the nex day to me to have an account concerning this thing I told them If they would be pleased to come at a time appointed I would give them the Reasons of my withdrawing from them and accordingly they came the Preachers and Principalest among them where I gave them an account of my withdrawing from them as many of my Friends can bear me witness which was as followeth 1. Their denying the Children of Believers a right to the Covenant 2. Living in constant neglect of an Ordinance of Christ viz. singing of Psalms Answer Thus the Lord satisfied me c. and in his entrance on this of Baptism he saith And upon serious enquiring into the Word and earnest seeking of the Lord it pleased him to satissie me and a little after but by considering I saw their mistakes c. If the Accuser deserves the praise which seems desired by him and allowed to him of having with much search of the Scripture consideration and Prayer sound out and set in order these Grounds wherein his satisfaction lay before he departed from us would it not seem somewhat unhandsome dealing and beneath a learned Minister that above a month after our Accusels departure from us these our accusers meditations should be publickly preached in that Town in matter and form well-nigh verbatim as he here hath written them without acknowledging whose Collections they were but we leave them to agree whether the one's claim to them in the Pulpit or the other 's in the Press shall carry away the applause desired and go on to consider what he Reports of that Meeting in which he gives account of his with-drawing The first Ground whereof as he presents it we have already tendered to examination The second is our living in constant neglect of an Ordinance of Christ viz. singing of Psalms At this Meeting he charged us with denying singing of Psalms now he calls it living in constant neglect of it About which what our Light and Practice is and as then in effect was said you may take thus We do fully and cordially own speaking to our selyes teaching and admonishing one another in Psalms Hymns 〈…〉 singing and making Melody with Grace in out heart to the Lord to be the will of Christ according to which wholy men of God are bound in all generations to sound forth his high Praises in the Church by Jesus Christ which ought to be performed by them being merry in the Lord with Melody in their hearts and a distinct and chearful voice expressed either in the Songs of Moses David or otherwise as the Spirit bringeth things to their remembrance