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A91846 A treatise of the vanity of childish-baptisme: wherein the deficiency of the baptisme of the Church of England is considered in five particulars thereof. And wherein also is proved, that baptizing is dipping, and dipping baptizing. by A. R. Ritor, Andrew. 1642 (1642) Wing R1542; Thomason E152_4; ESTC R20692 24,769 39

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signifie with but the word Baptizo doth signifie to dip Ergo the word En must signifie in and not with as is proved very clearely and denied by none who are not ignorant of the language for the Greeke Authors account bapto and baptizo to signifie that for which the Latines use mergere immergere tingere immergendo that is to say to d●p to plunge to douse over head or under water As is proved by Christs own baptisme Mar 1. 9. kai ebaaptist he hupo Ioannon eis ton Jordane● A●d 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 he was baptized of John into the Jordan but it is not the water of Jordan was put upon him as in sprinkling the water is put upon the party And by Plut. Lib. de Superst verbis utitur Baptison seauton bis Thalassan baptise thy selfe 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 into the Sea which if bapto or baptizo signifie to sprinkle is to be Englished sprinkle thy selfe into the Sea and Lu. 1. 9. he was sprinkled of John into the Jordan but that is very false and without all sense and therefore without all dispute therefore the word En as used after this word baptizo must signifie in and not with Furthermore your Translators themselves as is to bee seene openly give it to Dip Mat. 26 23. O embapsas 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 he that dippeth Mark 14. 20. O embaptomenos that dippeth Luke 16. 24. hinabapse that he may dip Ioh. 13. 26. ho ego bapsas to whom when I have dipped Rev. 19. 13. Himation bebamenon dipt unlesse they will make a different signification of baptizo from bapto which they can never do either cut of the Greeke Authors or the Scriptures written by the Apostles in that language but Mar. 7. 4. Baptismous Poteri●n lotiones peculorum Ben Ar. Montan the strictest Translator makes Lotiones Poculorum that is the washing of cups not the sprinkling of cups for the washing of cups is a putting of the cups into the water and not a putting or infusing water upon the cups Therefore it is very plaine that the use of the water in baptisme was not sprinkling the Subject with water or as I may say an imposing of water upon the Subject to be baptized but a putting or demersion of the Subject into the water The truth of this will further appeare from the consideration of these Scriptures Ioh. 3. 23. It is said of Iohn that he baptized in Aenon beside Salim because there were many waters there that is much deepe or great water as Rev. 1. 15. which reason of the Spirit of God because there were many waters there should be rendred in vaine if a little water had bin sufficient for Iohn to have baptized the people withall for we know that any little Font as you use would have yeelded him water enough to have taken thereof by handfulls to have sprinkled the whole world withall but there were manie waters not waters only Againe Acts 8. 38 39. It is said of Philip and the Eunuch that they went downe both of them into the water which they would not have done if washing or sprinkling of the face had bin the appointment of the Lord and would have served the turne it was also said of Christ That hee was baptized or dipped by John Matth. 3. 16. Mar. 1. 10. and that he came out of the water which implies his going in the water which had bin likewise needlesse if sprinkling would have served And in Colo. 2. 12. buried with him in Baptisme wherein you are also risen with him c. Againe Rom 6. 4. 5. it is said we are buried with him by Baptisme into his death And if we have bin planted together in the likenesse of his death we shall also in the likenesse of his Resurrection And in 1 Cor. 15. 29. Saint Paul amongst other arguments to prove the Resurrection hath these words what shall they doe which are Baptized for dead if the dead rise not at all why them are they Baptized for dead Now let any man that is not quite fallen out with his reason judge whether washing or sprinkling the face with water or dipping the whole man into water and rising again out of the water doth answere all these Texts of Scripture he must needs conclude that dipping the whole man into water doth answere them all and sprinkling or washing without dipping not at all for what similitude hath sprinkling with death burying rising againe none at all but dipping is a full resemblance of all and holds out unto us our profession selfe-deniall and our forsaking of all for Christs sake without which we cannot be his Disciples Luk. 14. 26 33. Now then if we well consider these Texts we shall finde that they used the water by putting the party into the water that is dipping him and not by putting infusing or sprinkling which are all one the water upon the party Therefore dipping and not sprinkling or washing without dipping must needs be the truth of that institution and the proper sense of the Holy Ghost in the Scripture dialect For as a learned and approved Author hath noted the Greeke wants not words to expresse any other act aswell as ●●pping If the institution could beare it Casaub upon Mat. 3. 11. for the Greeke to sprinkle is rantizo much 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 human● authority both ancient and moderne might be produced herein all which would be needlesse seeing the Scripture it selfe is so cleere in the point as is before already declared Nor can it be proved That Baptisme was administred any other way then by dipping for at least a thousand yeares after Christ To conclude then this point if to Baptise be to dip as is proved then whosoever is not dipped is not Baptized and he that is only sprinkled or hath water only imposed upon him is not dipped whence this consequence clearely results That all those that have the administration of Baptisme either by sprinkling or by any washing without dipping have not the Baptisme of the New-testament and by consequence are un-baptized persons Repent yee therefore and be Baptized every one of you into the name of the Lord Iesus for the remission of sinnes Acts 2. 38. And now why tarriest thou arise and be Baptized and wash away thy sinnes calling on the name of the Lord Acts 22. 16. For rebellion is as the sinne of witch-craft and stubbornnesse as iniquity and Idolatry 1 Sam. 15. 23. Thirdly The power authority and office of the ministry 3. by which it is there administred is received from the Bishops who received their power from the Antichristian State of Rome That the Bishops received their power from Rome is manifest and also confessed by themselves in their book of Ordination dedicated to Arch-Bishop Abbot by Francis Mason and printed by authority Anno Dom. 1613. Lib. 1. cap. 2. fol. 11. That this is so and that the office of the ministry there exercised is received from the Bishop is a
we must therefore of necessity here Sophisticate the matter by some distinction though never so absurd to bleere the eyes of the Nation and stop the Clamors of those that thus persue us to whom if we say nothing but let them alone in short time as it is said of the Samaritans Act. 8. 10. when Philip preached the Lord Jesus Christ unto them that all the people from the least unto the greatest will give eare unto them and then our Kingdom is at an end for which purpose some of them have improved their skill and thinking to silence the controversie as it is here stated thus to distinguish neither absolutly affirming that they are regenerate in Baptisme nor granting that they are not but that they are in the charity of the Church only so esteemed neither are any required to beleeve them to be regenerate as an Article of their Faith but in the judgement of charity In answere to which I desire them to informe me in the ground of this their charity for if it hath no ground in the word of God which is the rule of charity It cannot be termed charity but folly and presumption so to beleeve like unto that of the wicked who beleeve they shall have peace when as there is no peace to them Isa 48. 22. for hath God any where in his word spoken or Christ promised or the Apostles taught that hee will give his Spirit to Infants to regenerate them in Baptisme surely not a word no more then he hath said that he will destroy them in hell Therefore as it would be rash and censorious for any to judge they shall be damned in regard the Lord hath no where so declared so on the otherside it must needs be great folly madnesse and presumption for any to beleeve their Regeneration in Baptisme forasmuch as the Lord hath no where so promised Therefore for shame leave off this kinde of jugling and give glory to God in acknowledgeing the truth and then with me you will say It is no more the charity of your Church to beleeve thus but the presumption yea the craft and subtiltie of the Prelates and Priest hood of your Church for their bellies sake thus to delude and seduce the people But it after all this they shall object and say That Infants Object are elected and therefore may be Baptized To that I answere that all Infants are not elected and therfore Answ all Infants ought not to be Baptised But they will reply That in regard some Infants are elected Object and none can say that this or that particular Infant is not elected therefore Baptisme must be administred to all because we may not denie the elect their priviledges for feare of giving to others that which belongs not to them To this I answere That if it be a warrantable ground for Answ us to administer Baptisme to all Insants because that some particular Infants are elected then by the same reason it will follow That Baptisme may lawfully be administred to every man and woman in the world because amongst them also we may judge that some ●●e elected But this contradicteth the order and rule of Christ laid downe in the commission Matth. 28. 19. where he saith G●e teach all Nations and Baptise them and Mark 16. 16. He that beleeveth and is Baptised shall be saved first teach them that is make them Disciples or beleevers and then Baptise them and not before Therefore this reason brought for the Baptizing of all infants because that some infants are elected must be ranked amongst other of their Sophismes before detected 2. This being granted which is not true that Baptisme is to be administred upon the elect before they manifest faith then except we could know the elect from those that are not elected we ought to administer it to none at all for we may in noe case do evill that good may come thereon Rom 3. 8. Therefore whensoever the Lord commandeth us a duty or for biddeth us any evill he alwaies prescribeth unto us some rules that in the observation thereof we may answere ●im in what he requireth of us and never for want of instructions leaves us in such straites that we cannot obey him in one but of necessity we must offend him in the other And therefore we see when he commandeth us in Mat. 7. 15. to shun and beware of false Prophets he presently directeth us how to know them from his true Ministers whom hee requireth us very highly to love and esteeme 1 Thessa 5. 12 13. And so likewise doth he in point of Baptisme not only command the duty but also appoints the persons whom he would have Baptized Mat. 28. 19. else he would come farre short of Moses 〈…〉 faithfull in all Gods house Numb 12. 7. but Christ was as faithfull as Moses Heb. 3. 2. Therfore this objection which granteth that the Lord intendeth his Baptisme only for the elect and yet layeth an absolute necessitie to administer it to all others to whom he intendeth it not is most vaine and frivolous and therefore to be rejected of all And were it possible for us to know and distinguish the elect from the other as it is not yet I would faine see these profound Clarks make it appeare by the authority of the Scripture that they might lawfully upon that ground only administer Baptisme unto them I denie it utterly and affirme that its true faith only manifested and made knowne by confession with the mouth that gives the elect admission to Baptisme Act. 8. 37. Rom. 14. 23. And thus this objection is vanished away and so I shall proceed to the second particular The manner in which Baptisme is there administred 2. which is by sprinckling or casting a little water upon the head or face of the child Baptised wherein they shew themselves as contrary to Christ as in the former particular forasmuch as the institution of Christ requireth that the whole man be dipped all ever in water For the manner of the use of water in Baptisme must be either by infusion or by dipping But Iohn the Baptist or dipper according to the Dutch Version did use the water by putting the party in the water and not by infusing or sprinkling water upon the party as is proved Mat. 3 11. Ego men baptiz● humas en hudati 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 I indeed Baptize you in water Mark 1. 8. ego men ebaptisa humas en hudat● I indeed have Baptized you in water also Iohn 1. 26. Acts 11. 16. All these poin● ou● a Baptisme in water but not a Baptisme with water Obj. But the word En doth somtimes signifie with as in Rev. 19 21. Kai Hoi Loipo● apecteathesan en teromiraia A. Never after this word Baptize which signifies to dip for if it should then it would be no sense to say dip with water Therefore either the word Baptizo must signify to sprinkle or else the word En must not
to be verie true God And is not here extreme ignorance and malice manifestly striving to exceed each other in this Priest And as if all this were not enough he with the rest of his fellow Ministers there to quit their standings the lawfulnesse whereof being justly questioned doe neither spare pittifully to abuse Scripture nor yet cease unchristianlike upon all occasions to callumniate and publiquely to vent most false aspersions against them and that also with such violence and rage which would much better beseeme Beares robbed of their whelps then reasonable creatures and all this to uphold the great honour and authority which they have unduly got amongst many by all which it evidently appeares what must be looked for at their hands if once their Presbyterian Tribunall were errected But leaving these to be accounted with by God and their own conscience I will now proceed Fourthly The ground from which Baptisme is there administred is the Repentance and Faith of the sureties as is evident also by the Catechisme where these Questions and Answeres be made Quest What is required of persons to be Baptized Answ Repentance whereby they forsake sinne and Faith whereby they stedfastly beleeve the promises of God made to them in that Sacrament Quest Why then are Infants Baptized when by reason of their tender agethey cannot performe them Answ Yes they doe performe them by their sureties c. And like hereunto in the administration of Baptisme these Questions are demanded of the Sureties 1. Dost thou forsake the Divell and all his works c. 2. Dost thou beleeve in God c. 3. Wilt thou be Baptized in this Faith To which three questions each of the Sureties in particular make answere in the singular number personating the Child to be Baptized and then they Baptize the Child Now first to affirme that Faith and Repentance is required of persons to be Baptized and then conratriwise to affirme that Children destitute of Faith and Repentance may be Baptized upon the Faith and Repentance of others is a flat contradiction and the latter affirmation is all one as if they should say that a person destitute of Faith may be saved by the Faith of another for that which gives any man a right admission to the Baptisme of Christ gives him admission into life eternall and glory and therefore if Children may be Baptized upon the repentance and Faith of others they may also be saved the Faith and Repentance of others If thou beleevest with all thy heart thou maist be Baptized Act. 8. 37. He that beleeveth and is Baptized shall be saved Mar. 16. 16. Therefore this Doctrine being directly repugnant to the Scriptures must be rejected as impious Ezck. 18. 20. The same soule that sinneth shall die Hab. 2. 4. The just by his faith and not by the faith of others shall live Gal. 6. 4. 5. Let every man prove his own worke and then shall he have rejoycing in himselfe alone and not in another for every man shall beare his own burthen Fiftly The Subjects on which Baptisme is there administred 5. are Infants whereas the Scripture holds forth that Disciples or Beleevers only are to be Baptized For the Commission of Christ was to Baptize only Disciples as appeates Mat. 28. 19. The words being these Porenthentes oun matheteusate panta ta ethne Baptizames 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 c. autous c. The English of which is Goeing therefore Disciple yee all Nations Baptizing them Now the question is what this word Autous them hath relation to whether to Ethne Nations or no but it is cleare out of the words that it hath not relation to Nations but to Disciples for the word which is put for them in that place is Autous 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and not Auta which it should be if it had relation to Nations Therefore out of this place we finde that Christ gave command to the Disciples to Disciple the Nations or to teach the Nations that they might become Disciples and then to Baptize them but not to Baptize the Nations or any persons therein before they were made Disciples And to this agreeth the very practise of Christ himself and his Disciples for Ioh. 3. 22. we read that Iesus and his Disciples came into the Land of Judea and tarried there and Baptized And who they were that they there Baptized we may see in the very next Ch. 1. 2. ver where it is said that Jesus made and Baptized more Disciples then John though Jesus himselfe Baptized them not but his Disciples Baptized them to wit the Disciples or they whom they had by teaching made Disciples and what it is to be a Disciple may be plainely seen in Ioh. 8. 31. Luk. 14. 16. 27 33. And this truth is further evidenced from many other Texts as Mar. 16. 15 16. where Christ saith to his Disciples Goe into all the world preath the Gospell to every creature he that beleeveth and is Baptized shall be saved and accordingly in Act. 2. 38. Peter saith even to the Jewes and children of Abraham Repent and be Baptized every one of you that is Repent every one of you and then be Baptized every one of you And afterwards verse 41. it is said that as many of them as gladly received the word that is beleeved were Baptized and the same day there were added of them to the Church about 3000 soules And in ver it is said that all that beleeved were together And in Act. 8. 37. The Eunuch coming to a certaine water and demanding of Philip what did hinder him that he might not be Baptized was answered if thou beleevest with all thy heart thou maiest which implieth that unlesse he beleeved he might not be Baptized And with all this agreeth that in the Service-booke before recited That Faith and repentance is required of all persons to be Baptized Now then forasmuch as Infants cannot have either Faith or Repentance which is required by the Lord of all persons to be Baptized as is manifestly proved by the Scriptures and also granted by the pleaders for the Baptisme of Infants in the Catechisme afore recited It must needs be concluded that Infants are no meet Subjects of Baptisme and so by consequence it must needs follow that the Baptisme of Infants is none of the Lords Baptisme Object But yet after all this if any shall be so ignorant as to object that the Profession of Faith and Repentance made by the Sureties may give the Infants right to Baptisme Answ I shall answere them That if the profession of Faith and Repentance of the Sureties can give them a right admission unto Baptisme then also may it give them admission to eternall life as they ignorantly in the Catechisme pretend it doth for to the question Who gave you this name The Children are taught to say My Godfathers and Godmothers in my Baptisme wherein I was made a member of Christ a Child of God