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A86599 An antidote against Hen. Haggar's poysonous pamphlet, entitled, The foundation of the font discovered: or, A reply wherein his audaciousness in perverting holy scriptures and humane writings is discovered, his sophistry in arguing against infant-baptism, discipleship, church membership &c. is detected, his contradictions demonstrated; his cavils agains M. Cook, M. Baxter, and M. Hall answered, his raylings rebuked, and his folly manifested. By Aylmar Houghton minister of the gospel of Jesus Christ, and teacher to the congregation of Prees, in the county of Salop. Houghton, Aylmer. 1658 (1658) Wing H2917; Thomason E961_1; ESTC R207689 240,876 351

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you_o to_o chap_v and_o change_v the_o scripture_n at_o your_o pleasure_n 2._o admit_v there_o be_v no_o great_a difference_n you_o may_v as_o well_o believe_v and_o conclude_v the_o apostle_n be_v not_o baptize_v because_o there_o be_v no_o one_o witness_n to_o prove_v it_o 3._o give_v thanks_o at_o meal_n be_v also_o prove_v by_o these_o scripture_n and_o that_o by_o consequence_n only_o and_o so_o have_v our_o worthy_n prove_v infant-baptism_n 4._o which_o of_o we_o do_v hold_v the_o baptism_n of_o all_o child_n you_o fight_v against_o the_o man_n in_o the_o moon_n we_o be_v as_o much_o against_o the_o baptise_v of_o the_o child_n of_o turk_n etc._n etc._n while_o they_o remain_v in_o paganism_n as_o you_o be_v against_o the_o baptise_v of_o the_o child_n of_o christian_n though_o according_a to_o the_o scripture_n we_o can_v put_v a_o difference_n between_o they_o but_o you_o can_v 5._o why_o may_v not_o child_n be_v baptize_v before_o they_o can_v speak_v or_o understand_v as_o 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mr._n b._n say_v 3._o you_o will_v make_v mr._n baxter_n odious_a by_o say_v he_o take_v the_o devil_n part_n etc._n etc._n but_o sir_n you_o know_v the_o proverb_n a_o man_n must_v give_v the_o devil_n his_o due_n sure_o those_o godly_a minister_n do_v not_o take_v the_o devil_n part_n when_o they_o tell_v sinner_n that_o many_o time_n they_o belie_v the_o devil_n in_o father_v their_o sin_n on_o he_o rather_o than_o on_o themselves_o mat._n 15.19_o out_o of_o the_o heart_n proceed_v evil_a thought_n etc._n etc._n jam._n 1.14_o every_o man_n be_v tempt_v when_o he_o be_v draw_v away_o of_o his_o own_o lust_n 2_o pet._n 1._o ver_fw-la 4._o corruption_n be_v in_o the_o world_n through_o lust_n 4._o i_o fear_v that_o fault_n charge_v on_o mr._n baxter_n will_v be_v find_v within_o your_o own_o girdle_n before_o i_o leave_v you_o though_o you_o say_v you_o will_v now_o make_v it_o appear_v it_o seem_v than_o you_o fail_v in_o make_v it_o to_o appear_v as_o you_o say_v in_o the_o forego_n page_n but_o just_o so_o you_o have_v learn_v the_o devil_n deceit_n in_o add_v to_o scripture_n e._n g_o baptism_n be_v to_o be_v defer_v till_o a_o man_n can_v believe_v which_o be_v not_o write_v in_o the_o bible_n but_o in_o mr._n haggar_v book_n p._n 38._o and_o you_o say_v p._n 61._o god_n have_v one_o way_n to_o save_v man_n and_o woman_n and_o another_o way_n to_o save_v little_a child_n which_o be_v not_o where_o write_v in_o the_o holy_a scripture_n again_o in_o the_o same_o page_n you_o say_v infant_n die_v in_o their_o infancy_n be_v save_v by_o virtue_n of_o christ_n death_n without_o actual_a f●ith_n which_o be_v not_o where_o write_v etc._n etc._n who_o now_o write_v after_o the_o devil_n copy_n who_o take_v the_o devil_n part_n sect_n 34._o h._n h._n p._n 43._o the_o devil_n say_v to_o christ_n if_o you_o be_v the_o son_n of_o god_n cast_v thyself_o down_o which_o be_v not_o where_o write_v as_o the_o lord_n say_v but_o the_o contrary_a viz._n thou_o shall_v not_o 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