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A97212	Caleb's inheritance in Canaan: by grace, not works, an answer to a book entituled The doctrine of baptism, and distinction of the covenants, lately published by Tho. Patient: wherein a review is taken, I. Of his four essentials, and they fully answered; ergo II. Dipping proved no gospel practice, from cleer scripture. III. His ten arguments for dipping refuted. IV. The two covenants answered, and circumcision proved a covenant of grace. V. His seven arguments to prove it a covenant of works, answered. VI. His four arguments to prove it a seale onely to Abraham, answered: and the contrary proved. VII. The seven fundamentals that he pretends to be destroyed by taking infants into covenant, cleeered; and the aspersion proved false. VIII. A reply to his answer given to our usual scriptures. For infant-subjects of the kingdom, in all which infant-baptism is cleered, and that ordinance justifyed, / by E.W. a member of the army in Ireland.	Warren, Edward, Member of the army in Ireland.	1655 (1655)	Wing W956; Thomason E856_2; ESTC R9139	117,844	134

said to wash himself in a River though he only dips in his hand and casts water about him which is most frequent and usual both in our practice and acceptation of the word either in our vulgar or in Scripture dialect Were a man to wash his face or head must he needs dip it and so of any other part or the whole body But let us search the Scriptures Mark 7.4 Except they wash they eat not and Luke 11.30 They marvail at Christ that he had not first washt before dinner Is any man so void of reason to think that before the Pharisees sate down they plunged themselves And Christ who well knew what the word to baptize or wash signified gives them such an answer as relates to the powring out of water so washing onely the outside of things verse 39. Had their cups and platters tables and beds been dipt and so washt then had inside outside and every side been washt The word then hath a promiscuous acceptation some times taken one way some times another as Sidnam clears this Budeus Scapula Pasor Grotius do give the sense of the word Therefore to no purpose is this unlearned Authors Appeal to the Greek Latin and English Churches Though yet 't is considerable that he should acknowledge such as Churches whom his words and practice do so much cry down therefore I doubt his charity is much of the same nature with those of the late fifth Monarchy who though they would use the word of Protestant Churches yet they did look upon them but as the outworks of Anti-Christ which were first to be storm'd For there is scarce a Book extant of the Anabaptists but hath a touch thereof such is that Peece called The Storming of Antichrist which came out long since and others of the like stuffe Secondly he tells us that the phrase in which Baptism is rendered doth usually and necessarily import such a thing And therefore when mention is made of Baptizing 't is commonly translated in or into and therefore suits most with dipping and not that preposition with which suits most with sprinkling and when our translation tells us that Iohn Baptized with water he would correct it within water and instead of ye shall be baptized with the holy Ghost and with fire it should be rendred in the holy spirit and in fire Answ W● may see to what height ignorance is mounted when he that knows not what a preposition is shall undertake to mend translations what property of speech can there be in that phrase Mark 1.8 to say hee shall baptize you in the holy Ghost and in fire when the word is with is it possible for a man to be dowst drown'd or plung'd into the holy Ghost methinks he might blush to shew his ignorance But to make this clear let 's view and compare the place with Acts. 1.5 For Iohn truely baptized with water so Mark 1.8 I have baptized you with water and Math. 11. I indeed baptise you with water but ye shall be baptized with the holy Ghost and with fire would it not be strange to read it into fire considering also that these words relate to the pouring out the holy Ghost spoken of Acts 2.3 and there appeared unto them cloven tongues like unto fire and it sat upon each of them they did not sit in the fire but the holy Ghost like fire sate upon them and then in verse ●7 the Apostle Peter who very well knew what was meant by the word Baptize interprets it by Ioell 2.31 to be the powring out of the spirit prophesied of And thus when Christs tells them of their being Baptized with the spirit it appears to be meant of the spirits pouring out so that from hence its evident that Iohns Baptism was by pouring out water and not plunging into water or else it would not have been so conjunctively plac'd with the the manner of the spirits Baptism Iohn truely Baptized with water but ye shall be Baptized with the holy Ghost For as the pouring out the holy Ghost was the true Baptism of the Spirit so Iohn truely Baptizing with water was by powreing it out also let but any Englishman reade it that knowes but how to make sence of what he reads it must of necessitie gives a dash to all their plunging Let therefore such as have been deluded into so groundless a practice consider it and repent thereof A second paralell instance to confute this practice of dipping is that of Israels being Baptized in the clouds in the Sea 1 Cor 10. which by Paul the Apostle of the Gentiles as before Peter was of the Iews is called a Baptism and by what principle of reason or conscience can any man think that Israel was plung'd into either cloud or sea when the word of God tels us they marcht through the sea upon drie land Exo 14 22. the waters being divided yea Davids relating to this very march of Israel Psalm the 77.15.17 tells us that this Baptism which Paul so calls in which beleevers and their seed were Baptized was by pouring out water and not plunging into water For thus the word runs the clouds poured out water If men therfore will not harden their hearts against the truth and blind their owne eyes here is light enough to shew us what is meant by this word Baptize the Authoritie of Peter and Paul both eminent Apostles bearing witness to this truth yet wee must be deluded from the truth by ignorant men against not onely the very light of nature but of Scriptures also As for that other Preposition example which he brings in that page of baptizing in the Wilderness and in Jordan he tels us it would be improper to render it with the Wilderness and with Jordan and therfore would urge it to be as improper in that other place I answer the Reader may from hence also gather how sadly fit this man is for a minister who to make our practice speake nonsence doth not himselfe know what belongs to a sense For because the preposition with is by us maintained proper when it relates to the matter or manner therefore he would have it also as proper when it relates to the place as if I should say Master Patient hath baptized with the milpool with Dublin for in the milpool in Dublin 4. In Pag. 9. his next place he brings to maintain his dipping is that of Paul 1 Cor 10. already touched on they were all Baptized to Moses in the Cloud and in the sea not with the clouds and with the sea Answ Which is most proper to say Israel were Baptized by pouring out water from the cloud and by sprinkling from the sea or to say Israel was Baptized by plunging into the cloud and into the sea for then they must be all over-whelmed with both And David in the place before-quoted tells us it was done by pouring out water was it improper to say Israel was Baptized in the sea when they

done when we consider not the diffe●ence a●d nature of the Auditors to cleer which let us come to some instances suppose a Church be truely constituted of which a great part may be hypocrites such as were Judas Magus Ananias and Saphira Hymeneus Alexander Phyletus mentioned in the Scriptures all which were never true believers These all these or any of these becoming true Converts and such as truely repent of their wicked Hypocrisie is ●his a Doctrine fit to be applyed to them without doubt such a practice would quickly overturn the Authors dipt Societies If he be true to the principles of this Doctrine as by himself it is applyed or else his words do imply that such Doctrines of Faith and Repentance is to be preacht onely to such as are without the Church as if those that ●ere within had no need thereof when as we know they are Doctrines of the Gospel which is the kingdoms Gospel and belongs to such as are within as well as without the kingdom were I a Minister and should come amongst master Patients people and preach this Doctrine and apply it as he doth would he not think it very much knockt out of joynt in the application to tell them it is the duty of all who really repent and believe to be baptized doubtless there is no rational Christian but would so judge If therefore it holds in one it must hold also in the other for it is not persons being hypocrites or carnal that nullifies their baptism no though the Administrator and manner also be circumstantially corrupted and defective what if John had baptized onely by pouring out water which he did as shall be after proved when he should have plunged and dipt them as this Author doth The Ordinance had not been thereby null and void for want of that circumstance So on the other hand should this Doctor of dipping convert a Heathen or Jew and plunge him when he should have onely poured the water on him after the Primitive practice yet the baptism stands in force still yea though the Author so dipping be no true real but a pretended Minister as Ziphora's circumcising stood in force though she were a defective Administrator and this is the general sense of Protestant Authors that those Children or persons that receive Popish baptism by their Priests after they are really converted to the Faith of Christ ought not again to be baptized and yet we see they are as ignorant as heathens by what therefore is said it is apparent the forementioned Doctrine is not to be extended to all alike and though it be an undoubted truth amongst such as preach to the heathens in New-England or to such amongst our selves as are yet unbaptized yet it is not therefore a sutable Doctrine to such as have been before baptized either there or elsewhere And yet we see with what fury and heighth of Confidence this theam is prosecuted throughout all his book T is a like Argument with this When Christ sent his Ministers to preach and baptize their Commission was to go into all the World Therefore he that is a true Minister of the Word and Baptism must be an Itinerary preacher Augustus Caesar a Tyrant taxt his people therefore it is lawful for all Magistrates to tax their subjects which last hath been a Doctrine so raised by the Author in my hearing CHAP. II. Relating to the Administrator answered HAving examined the Doctrine and foundation let us come to survey the building to see what work is made there he goes to open and explain what is meant by baptism and so leads us to a new Text which indeed usually leads the Van Argument but is here brought in as a prop to uphold the Doctrine before raised Mat. 28.18 From which two places he hath ingaged to run through the whole Controversie of Baptism in four Essentials by him so called 1. The Minister 2. The Form 3. The Name into which 4. The Subject All which being laid down as so many Essentials if any one be wanting the baptism in his sense is made null and void we are therefore come to examine these several heads and first the Minister or Administrator p. 6. preaching Disciples go ye therefore but when he afterwards comes to explain his meaning who they are he speaks thus That Disciple that can bring down God to the soul and the soul up to God is a lawful Minister of baptism I shall therefore a little search into this unheard of qualification according to the place by him quoted first the persons spoken of had an immediate Commission from Christ Go ye therefore Secondly The persons sent were Apostles men in Office men of Gifts for the work Go teach all Nations baptising such they were that baptized in a way of office power and authority And because these therefore every man that undertakes to preach by a Gift either occasionally or intentively not having any Commission or Call thereto may baptize is this any lawful deduction or rather is it not the way to destroy the Ministry by this rule if there be twenty in the Church of which this Author is a labourer or Minister that can preach or talk rather as well as himself they shall therefore take his power of administring these Seals out of his hands When as both he and they are bound to desist from any such actions until they are duly and solemnly admitted into an office that capacities them for the work And the contrary is condemned by the Apostle 1 Cor. 12. Are all Apostles are all Prophets are all Pastors and Teachers c. And therefore God hath set every member in the Church to be useful to the body in his due place as are the members of the natural body and not one to intrude upon the other Consider further Secondly If that be all the qualification required for the administration of Sacraments before mentioned then may a woman be a lawful administrator for though the title of preaching Disciples reaches onely to the Males yet that kind of explanation will reach females What if such a one as Priscilla who was a Disciple should amongst many of her own Sex be an instrument to convert some to the Faith I hope it cannot be denyed but she brings down God to the soul is it therefore lawful for her to baptize there must therefore such a restriction be put upon the words as confines them to persons in office or else we are like to come to a strange kind of Reformation at last But indeed this kind of qualification though the full current of the words are rough and harsh yet may it well suit with their practice for though they lay much weight upon the thing it self called the Ordinance yet are they very loose in this which he calls an Essential namely the Administrator for if the Pastor or Officer be absent or sick but usually they have neither if the people do but desire such a brother to baptize and give the

were in the sea for though God wrought a miracle to divide the waters that Israel might march upon dry ground yet was it in the Sea As when a man hath been in a shoure of raine Is it improper to say he hath been in the rain because it is not proper to say he hath been dipt into a cloud I shall therefore refer this to the consideration of the most judicious of that Judgment of which there are many What ground of Reason there can be for such a construction as is made of that place by this Author and shall also leave that place Exod. 15.4 5. to be thought of as an example That when the Egyptians marched into the Sea they were baptized in his sence i. e. Dipt dowst and drowned but not Gods Israel take heed therefore of your too eager pursuit of Abrahams Seed who as they were then so still are baptized by pouring or sprinkling Fifthly In Page 10. the next place he brings for dipping is in Acts 8.38 39. Philip baptized the Eunuch they being both in the water he dipt the Eunuch as John did Jesus Matth. 3.16 Answ And much at one that is the Eunuch was as much plunged as Christ was plunged for they were neither of them so baptized It hath been already proved that Johns manner of baptizing was not by plunging but pouring out water and therefore that Text Matth. 3.6 stands for a cypher in this particular A man may as properly be said to go downe into the water and come up out of the water though not wet-shod as if he had been dipt all over So was Israel in the Sea properly and yet not dipt besides Philip was as much in the Water as the Eunuch and in that construction they must be both plunged but not a word is here of the mode of Baptism onely he baptized him the manner must be pickt out of other Scriptures which may be easily gathered from what hath been already spoken There may be other Reasons also given why it could not be by dipping as that the Eunuch was upon a journey travelling homeward and therefore neither he nor Philip provided with garments suitable for such a work it being accidental to them both For if it be a Gospel Ordinance it must not be done they being both naked for so it would have been an action of no good report contrary to Pauls rule And indeed take it in the most serious manner as now practised yet there is no shew of carriage or deportment suitable to the Majesty of the Gospel of Christ which may easily appear to any sober Christian whose eyes are not darkned by ignorance or blinde zeal For what gravity can there be for a Minister who is Gods Ambassador to the World 2 Cor. 5.20 to put off his shooe's and stockings and to lead a Gentlewoman by the hand into a River and throw her on her back Is this a deportment fit for Ambassadors that come from God whose holiness is such that will not permit a Woman to be uncovered or unvailed in the Church and shall we think then he will own such inhumanities Methinks the very naming hereof should be a sufficient confutation which is enough to make a modest face to blush Also considering that either Subject or Administrator and perhaps both may be of so tender weak and feeble constitution as they are not able to undergo the cold Many such considerations falls in that were it practised amongst Heathens that do by nature the things contained in the Law that very light amongst them would condemn it Sixthly He argues in Page 10. from Johns Baptism his work being to Baptize he remained near Jordan and afterwards at Enon near Salem because there was much Water in that place Ergo He baptized by dipping Answ It hath been already proved from Mark 18. with Acts 1.3 and Chap. 2.17 which relates to Joel the second That Johns Baptism was not by dipping but pouring out Water and therefore this cannot be the reason why he chose that place namely Because there were many Waters to dip Other Reasons must be therefore given as That because the work of baptising a whole Region was very great and John not onely baptising himself but very likely having made Disciples which he taught more immediately Luke 11.1 2. John 4.1 2. Matth. 11.2 3. Luke 7.18 as Christ did his Disciples He also might ordain and appoint them to the work that so when the whole multitude of people came together they might have each a share of the work and conveniency of place accordingly because there were many waters when other parts of the Country were very scarce thereof as not onely History but Scripture mention track Israels march from Egypt Surely had this Author of the Doctrine of Baptisms lived in Spain or in many parts of Zona-torida where they sell Water as we do Beer not having enough to drown a man in a Country he would have been of a more sober judgment Adding this also thereto That when John baptized a whole Region both men and women rich and poor either he must send out O●ders to all the Country ●o bring suitable Garments which the poor it is likely could not do or else promiscuously he must dip them naked or in such G●●ments as they wear the unworthiness of which practice is already shewn Therefore it is much to think that a person who pre●ends to Preach the Gospel as this man doth should be so purbsinde having his eyes shut against the truth But that God deals so by men in a way of Justice when they set up idols in their hearts he answers them according to their idol● Ezek. 14.1 3 4 5. a place by himself afterwards quoted though falsly applied Page the eleventh and twelfth contains his seventh eighth and ninth Arguments which may be all put together because all alike and the confutation of one answers the rest where he tells us That Baptism ought to be by dipping is proved from the nature of the Ordinance and from the Analogy it hath with the Death Burial and Resurrection of Christ many places he brings but to every little purpose And therefore I answer with Mr. Sidenham 1. That plunging cannot represent it is most clear for when Christ was buried he was not plunged into the Earth but laid in Josephs Sepulchre cut out of a Rock Matth. 27.6 which was the manner of burials amongst the Jews and if covering all over though in a Rock was sufficient to cause such a resemblance by dipping then had Christ been covered in a House or Coffin for three days it must also have been so resembled 2. Neither doth it answer to the mode of burying amongst Christians in Europe or elswhere For the Earth by which the person is covered is applied to the subject and cast upon him so that the applying of water to the subject in Baptism as John did in those places before quoted I indeed baptize you with water c. doth more

lively represent Christs burial then dipping can To what purpose therefore is it for a man to heap up a multitude of Scriptures as this Author hear doth to make all sure when he is wholly mistaken in the thing and manner thereof and not one of those Texts proves that ever Christ was so buried Seventhly Page 13. he comes to his tenth Argument to prove Baptism by dipping namely because it holds forth a conformity to Christ in his sufferings So saith Christ I have a Baptism meaning his death and can ye be baptized with the Baptism wherewith I am baptized meaning his afflictions And this is set forth by dipping into water because when the Saints in the Scripture express their afflictions they set them forth by being in the depths Psal 130. Out of the depths have I cried And Isa 43.2 When thou passest through the waters they shall not overflow thee Therefore Believers are to be dipt all over into the water and as he is raised up again by the hand of the Minister it holds forth that so such souls shall be saved from all their affl●ctio s by Christ Psal 24.17 Many are the afflictions of the righteous but God delivereth them out of all And that this doth signifie our Salvation doth further appear 1 Pet. 3 ●1 Alike figure whereunto Baptism even s●ves us A●d Mark 6 16. He that believes and ●s baptized or dipt shall be saved Answ What strange Hieroglyphicks doth this Author make in the Water by dipping What stretcht inferences to make the Scripture answer his fancy let 's try the places If Christ calls his afflictions a Baptism doth it therefore follow That all Believers should represent it by plunging We know that many Christians never meet with such afflictions and such a practice to be so plunged would be a greater affliction then ever befel them and the place implies this to be in deep waters is an affliction or would this new Doctor have Believers do themselves a mischief to represent Christs afflictions Which of necessity thousands must do by this practice of dipping It is no hard matter to give several instances hereof Secondly What should such do to represent those afflictions of Christ that have not water enough in a Country except they should make deep Ponds or Vessels of purpose Did ever the Martyrs in Queen Maries days or the Primitive persecutions take that course and yet no doubt but they were as much baptized into Christs death and afflictions as ever this Author could be though with his practice he should give his body to be burnt to justifie the same Therefore let the judicious but impartially judge what strange doctrines this Laborer for dowsing brings What though David cried to the Lord out of the depths yet his head stil kept above water unless he will affirms that the promise in the place by himself quoted Isai 43.2 was not made good unto him When thou passest through the water it shall not overflow thee And though afflictions shall never quite overflow a childe of God yet by this doctrine the body must be dipt all over A strange resemblance The like we may say to that of 1 Pet. 3.21 by which he would prove That Baptism is a figure of Salvation though yet it cannot be by dipping under water because the Apostle calls it a like figure to the Ark But the Ark was never under water but always floating and so the persons that were in the Ark therefore if Baptism be a like figure then it needs no going under water for a signification For had the Ark been dowst under water the signification had been lost or at least not so clear By this therefore we may take the hint of an other Argument to prove dipping under water not to be the Scripture way of baptising Thus we may see how fully and apparently even his own Scriptures makes against both his Book and practice As to that other place Matth. 16.16 it is quite besides the business for it doth not prove Baptism to be a figure of Salvation onely he that believes and is baptized i. e. obeys the Gospel shall be saved Thus then his second Essentiall of dipping hath been examined with all his ten arguments upon which this Author of the doctrine of Baptismes doth build the whole stress and fabrick of dipping-grown persons with soe much heat and confidence and such slighting contempt of his opposers and upon the whole result it appears but as a bubble quickly broken Ergo dipping is no Essentiall CHAP. IV. His third head of Essentialls concerning the name into which persons are Baptized VVEE are come now to examine and look into this third Essentiall by him so call'd of dipping into the name of the Father c. as 't is by him opened page 14. 15. 16. and 24. in which hee tels us a person cannot be rightly Baptized into the name except he be able to give a distinct Accompt of the Trinitie of persons in their severall operations Let us therefore review those primitive and ' Apostolicall examples Answ The Baptism of Iohn none will denie but his Baptism and Ministerie was from God and so a Gospell-Baptizm did the persons he Baptized give this Account the contrarie is most evident and that they claimed a right to that ordinance as being Abrahams seed to whom the covenant was made therefore when the Pharisees came to be Baptized who lived not as Abrahams Children hee turns them back with a reproof think not to say within your selves you have Abraham to your Father for you are a generation of Vipers Had not the rest been receaved upon that consideration as Abrahams seed the reproof had not been suitable but no mention is made of their distinct knowledg in the mystery of the Trinitie Secondly had this been an essentiall then was Iohns Baptizm quite null and the Apostles also before Christs death for the third person was not so eminently known nor sent because Christ was not then glorified yea Iohns disciples never heard whether there were any holy Ghost therefore how could they beleeve in him and so confess him so distinctly and eminently Rom. 10.14 This further appears by considering the commission it selfe and the practice of the disciples thereupon the words of the Commission are goe teach all nations c. teaching them to observe whatever I command you In which something is to be taught before somthing after Baptism now that which is to be taught before is so much as capacifies them to be disciples for so our opposits give the Rendition of the words goe disciple all nations As a Child then may be a disciple when he first begins to learne his A. B. C. so may a Christian bee a disciple of Christ without such a high pitch of Knowledg into the mystery of the Trinitie For without all peradventure the Apostles themselves were ignorant thereof though Baptized when Christ first called them and were afterwards taught further by degrees for the Scripture tells us

truth by us maintained Now then to sum up all the premisses considered and that upon the advantage the Spirit of God puts into our hands in explaining what is meant by the word house himself who is a better Expositor then Mr. Patient or any else We see the whole Catalogue or Cloud of Family-Witnesses and Examples in Scripture do give in their Light and Testimony to Abrahams Infant-seed And that when the Scripture speaks of Housholds baptized it is meant Parents and Children and when a Master of a Family was converted and became the son of Abraham as Zacheus though a Gentile his Seed or House also were taken visibly into Covenant Luke 10 3 6. So that by this time we see the vanity and self-confidence of this Author to speak such bitter words of Gall and Wormwood as he doth in page 23. against a world of people who as he saith from Custom and Tradition run headlong after this Idol of mans invention By which it is evident That whosoever embraceth not this new doctrine of dipping which hath already been proved not Apostolical he is no otherwise look'd upon or esteemed then yea called an Idolater And thus not onely the Truths of God and Priviledges given to all Gods people suffer but also the Powers and Authorities of these Nations come to be undervalued slighted and contemned for practising or countenancing such Idolatries Thus the dark-side of the Cloud by this appears onely to such spirits when the Israel of God i e Abrahams Seed have light within their dwellings Ye therefore who have upright hearts to God and his ways that have been hitherto led in these untrodden paths and so have lost the way enquire after the footsteps of the flock and have more pity to your own bowels Cut not off their entail to Grace by losing your visible right and title to the Covenant in which the invisible part thereof is conveyed What though they are born in sin and iniquity yet the Promise reaches them whilst yong as it reached Isaac when a Childe If you are not wanting in your duties your children have a Gospel-right the Seed of the Jews had it yea they shall have it again to the same Covenant Take heed least your Children cry our against you at the last day and say their cruel Parents took away their Bread and gave away their birth-right for nought Let me therefore say with the Prophet It hath and shall be for a lamentation to see Christians kick against their own mercies And let me leave this with you Mr. Patient Ro. 2.22 thou that abhorrest an Idoll doe not commit sacriledg by stealing away a Church ordinance from those to whom God hath given it Thus far his four Essentialls are weighed over which we may write that superscription Daniel 8.15 Mene Mene tekel vpharsin thou art weighed in the ballance and found too light CHAP. VI. Page 23. 24. Is a preludium to the subsequent chapter touching the Covenant WEE are now come to view that passion of Weakness that lies in those two Pages and first of his distinction given of Idolatrie which though I grant to be good yet he still mistakes in application for hee comes again to tell us that in the room of this precious Ordinance of God the dipping of beleevers which Christ hath confirmed by his blood is set up an Idoll of mans invention namely the sprinkling of Carnall poor infants and doubtless if there be an Idoll in the world now set up amongst men this must needs be one in his sence because he hath learnt this to be an Idoll either the worshipping a false God or the true God in a false manner c. Answ Let any reader Judg whether this man of the waterie element doth not speak with as high a piece of confidence as if he had a spirit of infallibilitie to judg our practice by hee tells us that dipping of beleevers was an ordinance confirmed by the blood of Christ therefore sprinkling of Children must needs be an Idoll his Allegatitions have been examined in all the parts thereof and we still find notwithstanding any thing he hath said to the contrarie that Childrens Baptism remains an Ordinance That dipping is not the way of the Gospel and therefore I must tell him that dipping was never confirm'd by Christs blood Ergo He speaks untruths in the name of the Lord neither is it an Idoll of the first or second magnitude no Image of Baptism set up in the room thereof by mans invention which are terms by him used to bespatter the truth But the contrary is proved The Administrators Right a person qualified and ordeined the manner by sprinkling or pouring out water Right the form of words Right and the subject Right And therefore an Ordinance that shal stand mauger al the malice of men as a pretious Ordinance of Iesus Christ so long as the Sun Moon endures And therefore instead of your appealing to men since there hath been enough said If you and I had never written let us appeal to God and let all those that own their childrens right in the Covenant say Amen In Page 25 he concludes again that Infant Baptism is corrupt in the four Essentialls aforementioned Answ First then by his own words t is not anihillated but onely Corrupted and that a person though corruptly Baptiz'd ought not to be Baptiz'd that being already prooved But Secondly He reckons without his host and therefore must come to a new accompt They are not Essentialls nor any of them as laid down by him but whimsies of his own brain therefore The next thing we are to follow him in is the business of the Covenants with its distinctions and extent from which he undertakes to prove that Infants are not subjects of Baptism Though we have hitherto built upon a good Foundation yet if hee shakes down his main pillar it will be time to forsake the house But before wee can come to his Arguments we must passe by many falsitis and prolocutions and goe through many impertinencies which must be born withall amongst the Patrons of Error The first thing he deals with is A pretended false consequence which he saith wee draw from scripture to maintain Infant-Baptism It runs thus The Covenant of Grace is made with beleevers and their seed Therefore the seale of the Covenant belongs to them To disprove which he tells us 't is against the Law of the new Testament Answ The new Testament is Christs last will to his Church in which hee shews forth more love then he did in his first Testament which was made to the same Church and the Covenant of Grace in the spirituall part thereof is the same in both If therefore in the old Testament which was his first Legacie hee took Children into his kingdom and yet now his bowels should be shut against them who are not then called into libertie but a greater bondage then before But grace in the Covenant being unchangeable therefore Children

Rock and Manna a type of Christ from hence the sense of the Text is drawn plain That as the spiritual disciple or Israelite is baptized into Christ so the temporal Israelite was baptized to Moses in the cloud and sea and they are called spiritual meat and drink by a figure A. He hath no way to put off his false doctrines but by turning all Scriptures into allegorical notions for what exposition he hath here given is as much besides the Text and as unlikely to be true as for me to say the man in the Moon is like M. P. for let us but consider that those Sacraments were spiritual to Israel as Gods Church as the Sacraments of the Gospel were spiritual to the Church of Corinth Now the Apostle in drawing the parallel doth not speak of a spiritual Church in a carnal Church or a spiritual Israelite and a carnal Israelite thereby making onely some to be baptized to Moses but tells as plainly they were all baptized to Moses Whereas this whimsical notion would make us believe there were some of Israel not baptized to Moses and when Paul saith they did all eat the same spiritual meat and did all drink the same spiritual drink M. P. tells us directly contrary You see then with what evidence of truth he speaks when the Authority of an Apostle must vail before him and though he saith the Sacraments are spiritual by a figure yet if he were askt by what figure he must either give a Parrots answer or say nothing albeit he shews his ignorance to be medling and his confidence I am unwilling to call it worse to notionallize the Sacraments themselves as if they were not a spiritual meat and a spiritual drink to the Church of God By which we see rather then he will have any dependance upon the Law he will run beyond the Gospel P. p. 127. Those typical signes and figures then which typed out Christ to come did properly belong to the typical seed the body of Israel that typed out the spiritual seed to come in Gospel-Ordinances instituted since Christ came which are for confirm ng that he is come and these belong only to the spiritual seed in whom Christ is come already dwelling in their hearts by Faith A. Here is such a pack of distinct●ons that were not I believe heard of in past ages It seems the spiritual Israel had no need of Ordinances for they did not properly belong to them but to the carnal lump and why then should Abel Noah Abraham and all the seed by promise be sacrificers why then should David cry out after those water brooks and even envy at the happiness of those birds who had their nests neer the Altar 2 If the body of Israel did type out the spiritual seed to come under the Gospel then whom did the spiritual seed of Israel type out either no body or by opposition the carnal Gospellers for the spiritual Israel were types though yet the carnal Israel or the body of Israel it will be hard to prove them types especially in that nature unless they were types of the Roman Apostasie 3 If temporal Israel did then type out the spiritual Israel now then their Apostasie backslidings divorce and casting off must type out the divorce apostasie backslidings and casting off the spiritual seed 4 If the carnal seed in those typical Ordinances did type out none but spiritual seed to be admitted to Gospel-Ordinances then all that are now Church-members must needs be spiritual and so there are no hypocrites now in the Church Let the world judge whether this is not wretched stuffe which yet is the natural consequence of thi● unnatural distinction P. 128. It was not necessary that all that were Circumcised should believe and repent and so be first made Disciples but Baptism is a confirmation of our Regeneration and our New-birth and Union with Christ by Faith And therefore belongs to them only that are regenerated and born again of water and the Spirit so the Lords Supper Let a man examine himself c. A. It was necessary that Abraham should be a believer before Israel could be circumcised For had not Abraham believed there had been no such seal given to his family as is already proved 2 To let pass his Tautologies as the least of his offence If baptism belongs onely to such as are regenerated why was Judas Demas Magus and those Act. 20.29 30. baptized or how shall it be known who is new-born or can it confirm Grace where there is none what confirmation was it of the New-birth to Judas and the rest surely his words must admit of a large charity to think that all that are dipt have truth of Grace confirmed in them thereby P. Pag. 130. The carnal Israelite was as capable to perform every Ceremonial Law without Faith as truely as the Believers A. A man had need of a belief of the biggest size also to credit this for the true performance of those typical Sacrifices was not barely in the work done but when the worshippers had an eye to Christ which the true believer then ever had For the main ing edient to make that worship truly performed was Faith then as it is now and he might with as much truth say that he that is formal in Gospel-duties either in prayer hearing receiving doth as truely perform them as he that is a true believer It is to me a most unsavory expression and such loose stuffe that surely if there be any close-walking Friends to the truth they cannot but reprove such loose doctrines P. Ibid. There is no less then a profession of Faith required in the Church of England before baptism and therefore this doth justifie what we hold and condemn what they practice A. He begins now to flye low to seek to streng hen his feeble practice by the Liturgy and Canon of the Church of England who before doth seemingly rejoyce that he is converted both from their doctrines and practice but what if they do hold that profession of Faith and Repentance should precede baptism so do we all And as Faith was to Abraham and is to us the condition by which all our seed is taken into covenant with the Parent so baptism seals the covenant and upon this ground Peter moved his hearers to be baptized he backeth the motion not barely from their own interest in the promise as personal believers but upon the joynt interest of their children with them upon their Parental believing Act. 2.38 39. Repent and be baptized For the promise is to you and your children implying that the covenants sealed should run as largely as the covevenant As it was to the grand covenant Parent of all the heirs of promise i. e. Abraham Thus all Noahs children were bap●ized in that typical baptism with their believing parents in the Ark 1 Pet. 1 3 21. Gen. 7.1 which was upon the same covenant-account that Abraham and his seed were circumcised and that a parental covenanting

grace he gives power yet Gods grace doth not lead man to destroy nature therefore when he comes to apply he abuses the Scripture it hath been before proved that dipping is not the way of Scripture-baptism Consider 1 Cor. 10.1 2. and compare it with the history was Israel plunged in the Red-Sea the opposers dare not say it if they have any Conscience And yet Paul tells us they were baptized and David in the place before quoted tells us how the clouds poured forth water the like appears from Act. 1.3 ch 2.17 with Joel 2. compared t is cleer that baptism was by pouring out water to intrude such a destructive practice is therefore against the Apostolical interpretation of the word and against the very light of divine or humane reason for shall we think that he that bids us put on as the beloved of God bowels of mercy and tenderness should be so hard a master to command us in the most sharpest seasons to be duckt yea an action that cannot be done in many Countries for shame harden not your hearts against truth any longer and be of a more tender hearted spirit to poor deluded Christians and do you that fear the Lord remember that you do not abuse your power God hath given to such licencious practice that would ruine the very foundations of the Gospel P. p. 164. Doth acknowledge there may be good people not of his opinion yet they are not to be lookt upon as a Church unless they will be dipt A. He hath before called us such as offer up our children to devils and can he have so much charity to judge such good people these are but terms of insinuations to gain the more upon such good people to bring them into his strain of discipleship He brings us again the example of Cornelius Lydia the Jaylor and then tells us the Church of Samaria was gathered by faith and dipping and to practice o herwise is contrary to Christ and the Apostles All which is before proved false and there is not a word in the Scriptures that saith as M. P. doth that the Church mentioned was gathered by dipping yea so to practice and apply it as he doth is to adulterate and so destroy the Ordinance Away therefore with such st●ffe t is abominable it is likely is it not that Peter could stand a whole day in a River to plunge 3000 souls or that Lydia should be duckt before she went home or that the Jaylor should be plunged in a deep River at midnight were Jesus Christ preacht to the Turks or Pagans upon these terms by some of those dippers or to the Jews upon their imbracing the faith it is the way to harden their hearts against the truth P. p. 172 173. He perswades Christians it is a sin to neglect plunging and if they have truely repented they will be drawn to practice all the commands of God and this amongst the rest or else they cannot be admitted as persons that have repented at all A. We may here see the mystery of iniquity in its workings It must Lord it in the Conscience or else it cannot stand thus did those Circumcision-preachers Act. 15. there was no salvation without it as here there is no repentance tr●e without dipping it is a sin to neglect it Christians look to your Consciences keep out such false-teachers who bring upon you greater burdens then Circumcision ever was Christs house will have no such washings and if you once let them into your Conscience possession will be soon lost P. p. 174. But some will say they were baptized in their infancy and shall such be kept out that are good people To which he answers that though many are good yet they live in a sin though it be a sin of ignorance to them for otherwise they could not be Christians But however the Church knows it to be a sin therefore they ought to be kept out and if any such be in that baptize their children they ought to be cast out A. The Reader may still see his censorious spirit wherein he flyes in the face of all the Ministers of Christ wounding their credit and esteem in the hearts of Christians For whosoever doth knowingly oppose their dipping and not ignorantly cannot be gracious so that either the Ministery must be ignorant or graceless And that their Church knows it to be a sin and therefore ought to keep out and cast out such as practice it A. I hope you shall have no cause to threaten such with casting out and if you speak in the name of all the Anabaptists when you say the Church knows it to be a sin I must then needs say they are as ignorant as your self though it is hard so to be P. In p. 176. he useth another way to make us yield up to his practice and answers an Objection that some do make that though it be an Ordinance yet many do rest in it and therefore its better not to practice it he grants that many do rest in them yet he would admonish all those that fear God to be conformable so was Paul Gal. 1.16 so was Peter when Christ bids him let down his net so was Abraham in sacrificing his son he disputed not and therefore he would have Christians suck in this as a maxim never to dispute a command and so he concludes his whole with Phil. 2 12 Do all things without murmurings and disputings A. We are now drawing to an end in all which we may see how many ways and wiles the Tempter hath to get within us he useth his weapons every way and comes so high now that it is a sin against Conscience to dispute it and it must be suckt down as a maxim which I could easily grant if it could be proved that either the subject or manner were commanded as it is by him practised But he that so sucks it in had as good suck down Ratsbane The instances brought are of such who had a cleer command for what they did from Christ himself hold forth therein nothing relating to dipping In fine we may say of his whole book it is nothing else but a lump of error and bitter revilings against the ways of God and Ministery of his word wherein he hath dealt like those unfaithful spyes that went to view the Land of promise who by the ill reports he makes disturbs the multitude and sets them a murmuring against Gods Joshuas that so his people may either retreat back to Egypt or run into Babylon His charge against us appears to be false the truth is cleered from the contempt and reproach cast upon it Reader I shall therefore commit thee to the grace keeping of our L. Jesus Christ And as for such who turn aside to their wicked ways the Lord shall lead them forth with the workers of iniquity But peace shall be upon Israel Psal 125.5 FINIS