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A54247 Wisdom justified of her children from the ignorance and calumny of H. Hallywell in his book called, An account of familism as it is revived and propagated by the Quakers / by William Penn. Penn, William, 1644-1718. 1673 (1673) Wing P1395; ESTC R24458 61,724 142

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