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A44213	The catechist catechized, or, An examination of an Anabaptistical catechism pretended to be published for the satisfaction and information of the people of God in Lancashire &c. : also some observations both old and new concerning the pretended visibility ... of the present Roman Church and religion / sent to a gentleman upon his revolt to popery and now published for the churches good by Richard Hollingworth.	Hollingworth, Richard, 1607-1656.	1653 (1653)	Wing H2487; ESTC R28107	42,729	60

your own confession doth signifie washing as well as dipping and washing is the main thing being the end and dipping but the means especially with reference to this Ordinance which is for washing or putting away the filth of the flesh 1 Pet. 3.21 Acts 22.16 Hebr. 10.22 1 Cor. 6.11 Now a thing may be washed not only by Dipping but by Sprinkling or by affusion or puring water upon it which is mostly used by us and not Sprinkling 3. The Greek word Baptism in Scripture signifie not only washing by dipping or plunging into the water but by sprinkling or affusion The Baptisms or washings mentioned Hebr. 9.10 were at least some of them done onely by sprinkling of water Numb 8.7 which was called the water of separation Numb 19.9 and holy water Numb 5.17 or by sprinkling of blood which himself instanceth in Heb. 9.13 19 21. See also Exod. 29.16 21. Psal 51.7 Their washings called baptizings of hands were frequently at least by letting wate fall on their hands from a Laver 2 King 3.11 So their Tables and Beds were not dipped into the water but washing with pouring water on them Mark 9. They that were baptized with the Holy Ghost and with fire were not dipped or plunged into the fire though if they had if seems it would not have burned them but cloven tongues as of fire sat upon each of them Acts 2.3 with Matt. 3.11 They that were baptized in the Cloud and in the Sea 1 Cor. 10.1 were not dipped or plunged into the Cloud or Sea for it was dry Land but probably they were bedewed besprinkled or dropped on The word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 baptized by the Translation rendered dipt Revel 19.13 is no other in Isai 63.2 3. then besprinkled 4. Baptism signifies Justification by the blood of Christ which is called the Blood of Sprinkling Hebr. 12.24 1 Pet. 1. 2. Hebr. 10.22 and Sanctification by the Spirit of Christ which is called sprinkling of clean water on them Ezek. 36.25 Isai 52.15 both which were also typified by the aforesaid legal purifications or washings 5. It cannot be proved by the Word nor is it probable in it self that the three thousand baptized in Jerusalem Acts 2.41 were carryed to a River and there dipped one by one by the Apostles or that Paul Lydia the Jaylor and all theirs which it's likely were baptized in houses were so dipped Did they shift their clothes or continued they in their wet apparel and how could their whole body be washed though it might be wet with their clothes on or were they all men and women baptized stark naked and was not this contrary to modesty and a temptation which mastered holy David 2 Sam. 11.1 Much less can it be proved that be the person never so sickly the season never so cold yet dipping is though it may endanger mens lives not only lawful in it self as we account it yea it hath been commended above sprinkling or affusion but in all cases and conditions necessary and the omission of it upon any occasion is sinful ANABAPT CAT. Paedobaptism is done by an Officer where there is a questionable Power as the Ministers ordained by Bishops deemed Antichristian THis exception is of no force against Child Baptism administred by such Ministers as are not ordained by Bishops Exam. Cap. 13. 2. You tell us not by whom or whether truly or falsly the Bishops were deemed Antichristian certes the old Nonconformists how ever they or some of them might hold that in the calling and authority of the Bishops there be divers things Antichristian agreed by joynt consent That they did not see I use their own words how our Bishops could be called Antichrists or Antichristians 1. Because the Word marks out Antichrist by his false doctrine nor do we find in holy Scripture any such accounted Antichrist or Antichristian which holding the truth of Doctrine swerveth either in judgment or practice from Christs rule for Discipline now it is evident that our Bishops do hold and teach all fundamental Doctrines and Truths and some of them have soundly maintained it against Hereticks converted many to it and have suffered persecution for the Gospel 2. Their Hierarchy and other corruptions charged upon the calling of our Bishops were rather to be esteemed the stairs and way to Antichristianity then Antichristianity it self for they were in the Church before the Pope who is the Antichrist and the chief Head-link of all Antichristianity was revealed 3. The Antichristian Bishops hold their preeminence as from Gods Law which is unchangeable whereas our Bishops since her Majesties reign to this day for the most part held their superiority by no other right then the positive Law which is variable yea it appears by the Institution of the Court of Delegates and the continuance thereof to this day that they do and ought by Law to hold their Jurisdiction not as from God but as from the Prince Thus they And as to Ministers ordained by the Bishops they say Bishops are able to judg of such gifts as are required for the sufficiency of Ministers that many of them have been such Ministers themselves as to Whose labors the Lord hath set to his Seal We are perswaded that though it were not necessary yet it cannot be unlawful for him that entreth into the Ministry to be approved and authorized even by them And if our Ordination be in this behalf faulty how will our Brethren justifie the calling of their own Ministers that have received Ordination ever from the people who neither by commandment nor example can be found to have any such authority nor are in any degree so capable of it as the Bishops See Mr Rathbands grave Confutation c. pag. 19. and 38. 3. Suppose it were confessed That the Bishops as claiming by Gods Law sole power of Ordination and Jurisdiction if any so did might in some qualified sence be called Antichristian had this such an influence upon an Ordination in which others joyned as well as he so as to make it voyd and null both as from himself and from them The Bishops were Presbyters and so more enabled by Gods Word to ordain as the godly Nonconformists truly assert then any Non-Presbyters and they came nearer to a Presbytery then two three or more members which are nothing like a Presbytery or company of Presbyters can do and their Ordination was judged valid not only by the Parliament and the Assembly but also by all the Reformed Churches abroad as by the Nonconformists at home notwithstanding they were opposers of and were opposed by the Bishops yea God himself added his own Seal affording not only Ministerial Gifts and Graces but his gracious assistance for Conversion of Souls and edifying of the Saints and sometimes so gloriously working by the Ministry of the Church of England as he hath not that we know of wrought so by any other But in your account the Baptism administred by such a Minister is neither lawful nor sufficient or at

nor example nor good warrant for your contrary opinions and practices what clearer command can we shew for that then for Infant-Baptism Women were not admitted to both the Sacraments of the Old Testament Christ did not admit women no not his own Mother to the Supper There is express uncontroverted mention in the New Testament of women being baptized but not so of women communicating If you alledg that 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a name common to women as well as m●n ought to communicate 1 Cor. 11.28 it is early evaded by saying that the Apostle confines it to the Male by 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 v. 28 29. and the same word is used of Circumcision of which the Male only was capable Joh 7.22 General terms of Disciples Church-members persons in Covenant will carry it for Infants Baptism as well as womens communicating If you alledg That such and such Assemblies in which there were women did break bread you know it may be yea it is doubted by some sober spirits whether that breaking of bread was Sacramental or no and it may be said that the company is said to do it because the Males did it as the whole house of Israel is said to be circumcised and called Circumcision though the Females thereof were not circumcised If you should tell us of housholds admited to the Supper though I know not any such instance in Scripture I might as well say there was no women there or they were excluded as you say there was no Infants in such or such an houshold or if there were they were excluded Lastly If men should bend their strength that way they might as plausibly except against your admission of women usually the forwardest part of your Societies to the Supper as you do or I believe can do against Paedobaptism Oh that our good God would in mercy to this distracted Church and to the deluded Souls therein remove prejudice out of our hearts ANABAPT CAT. Q. Whether do you think Baptism administred in Infancy to be a lawful Baptism and sufficient A. To me it is not for I think it to be a Profanation of an Ordinance for these Reasons 1. Because it is taught by the precepts of men Isai 29.13 not by God Jerem. 7.22 23. YOu hold Exam. Chap. 11. it seems that it is neither lawful nor sufficient and in plain English it is null voyd no Baptism at all But consider I pray you could you prove the nullity of Infant-Baptism as you have a great mind to do what sad consequences would ensue 1. That the people of God for the space of 1600 years using Paedobaptism were destitute of one if not by consequence of both the Sacraments 2. That the Churches in England Scotland France Denmark Sweden Germany Geneva Holland New England c. which have usually no other Baptism but Child-Baptism are no Churches the members thereof being not so much as Christians outwardly nor Sacramentally initiated into the Church in doing whereof you dishonor God and do Satan great service Gods work being to disciple and enchirch the Nations of the World Matt. 28.19 Mark 16.16 2 Cor. 5.19 and Satan's to undesciple and He●thenize the Church either in realty or in reputation for the advancement of his own Kingdom 3. That these and all others must for ever as the case stands want the Sacrament of Baptism except a special and particular warrant come from Heaven as to John Baptist for the setting up of this Ordinance for no man who is both unseparated to the work of the Ministry and unbaptized his Paedobaptism being a nullity and ununited to the Church of Christ can warrantably baptize himself or any other any more then Saul might sacrifice Vzzah stay the Ark Vzziah offer Incense a Midwife Turk Jew or Pagan administer the Sacraments of Christs Church for if Paedobaptism be a nullity because of default in the subject this also will be a nullity for want of commission for you can shew neither precept president nor good warrant for the Word for any man that is unbaptized having no special Commission from God to baptize himself or to baptize any other or for any man to accept of Baptism from such an one which is indeed no Baptism at all John as he had commission from God for his baptizing so he affirms that a man can receive nothing viz. no authority to baptize as he did except it be given him from Heaven John 3. 26 27. as if he would professedly caution the Church against such courses 4. That the Societies of the Independents and Separatists notwithstanding their separation from us do yet except they also turn Anabaptists live within one of the strongest holds of Antichrist are guilty of observing traditions and precepts of men of will-worship of profanation of Gods holy Ordinance of filling the Church with rotten members of confounding the Church and the World together yea say some of you they have the mark of the Beast in their soreheads and by consequence are in the high way to eternal damnation And what worse can you say of any Your Texts prove that God hates hypocrisie and over much regard of the commandments of men and that God did command Obedience rather then Sacrisice as 1 Sam. 15.22 for God did command Sacrifices and Offerings Levit. chap. 1. 2.3 c. What is this to Paedobaptism Will you acknowledg that God hath commanded it to us as he did burnt-offerings and sacrifices to the Jews we our selves say no more for it But if your Texts do forbid all humane inventions in the Worship of God Paedobaptism is yet safe enough for it hath been proved in the foregoing Chapter to have as good warrant from the Word as some other by your self acknowledged Ordinances of God have and better then your opposite Opinion and Practicas ANABAPT CAT. A. Paedobaptism is done in a Wrong manner by sprinkling in stead of Dipping THis exception you begin your Catechisun with telling us that Baptism signifies Dipping Examinat Chap. 12. By Dipping is never signified Sprinkling whence you would infer That Baptism should be by Dipping only and that it is done in a Wrong manner When it is done by Sprinkling wherein you much mistake For. 1. Should the original signification of other Scriptures words be so much squeezed then because the holy Communion is call●d a Supper 1 Cor. 11.20 the word signifying a whole meal and the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 1 Cor. 14. Ephes 5. signifies not simply to sing but to sing to a musical Instrument and the original words for the gesture at the Supper signifie lying or leaning on a bed you might with as good reason collect That the holy Communion should be a whole meal That there should be instrumental musick in Churches as well as vocal That men ought to lie or lean on beds at the receiving of the Supper or else the Ordinances are dons in a Wrong manner 2 The word Baptism by