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water_n	baptism_n	dip_v	sprinkle_v	5,026	5	11.1171	5	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A31094	A briefe answer to A discourse, lately written by one P.B., to prove baptisme under the defection of Antichrist, to be the ordinance of Iesus Christ, and the baptizing of infants to be agreeable to the word of God wherein is declared ... that true baptisme and a false church are inconsistent, and cannot stand together : and also maintained, that the baptizing of infants hath no authority from the Scriptures / by R. Barrow.	Barrow, Robert, d. 1697.	1642 (1642)	Wing B967; ESTC R12474	18,380	26

Commission should be obtained for the raising of it up againe But that according to their example in the former instance all be done according to the first institution and ordination of Jesus Christ Mat. 28.19 If it be objected as in page 8. that the commission was given to baptised persons such as had received their baptisme from Iohn and therefore it intendeth none that are unbaptised I answer that this commission requireth all such persons who by the preaching of the Gospell either are or shall be made Disciples unto the end of the world to be baptised and Christs voyce must be obeyed in all things whatsoever he saith Act. 3.22 and that without delay as Acts. 22.16 therefore there lies a necessity upon all believers to be baptised What is now to be done in this case Baptised persons from whom they may receive the same as in a right line P. B. believeth none can be found pag. 2.3 for if none can make it appeare that the visible Church hath continued as he believeth none can then can none make it appear that there are any baptised persons to be found in the world and therfore ought cannot be had from any such how then why in the 2 Tim. 2.16 17. the Apostle telleth us that the Scripture is profitable and serveth for instruction in all righteousnesse that the man of God may be perfect and throughly furnished unto all good workes and if unto all then unto this of Baptisme whereupon therefore I confidently affirme that as at first Iohn the Baptist at the command of God baptised others though he himselfe was unbaptised even so now according to his example which amongst other things was written for our learning that we thereby might be taught what to doe in the like case of necessity Rom. 15.4 May a Disciple at the command of Jesus Christ Matth. 28.19 having made Disciples by the preaching of the Gospel baptise them for the remission of their sins Act. 2.38 If it further be objected that this example is extraordinary and therefore not exemplary I answer that every approved example though extraordinary serveth for our instruction and direction in the like extraordinary case and this is warranted by Christs owne testimony Matth. 12.3.4 where he declareth that although in ordinary cases it was unlawfull for any to eate the Shew bread save onely the Priest yet in case of necessity it was lawfull and warrantable both for David and also for souldiers to eate thereof whereby he justifieth his Disciples who in the like case of necessity were enforced to doe that which otherwise was not lawfull to be done on the Sabbath day This is our case and hereby wee justifie our practice in the point in hand and by all which it doth appeare that although baptisme were ceased in that sense wherein he speaketh yet seeing that that there is a commission already given for baptisme which by Christ himselfe is extended to the end of the world there is no need of a new commission for the raising of it up againe and therefore from that which P. B. speaketh concerning Nadab and Abihu their offering of strange fire which the Lord commanded not Lev. 10. hee might more fitly have applyed against his strange baptisme viz. the baptisme of Infants of which the Lord hath never spoken then against the baptising of believers at his command and according to his owne institution Matth. 28.19 but for want of better matter to fill up his booke he was it seemes inforced to make use of vaine words But this is not all for although it be proved that there is commission and authority for Disciples to baptise though they themselves be unbaptised in the case before declared yet there is another thing whereat P. B. is greatly offended and that is the manner in which this new baptisme as he calleth it is administred which according to the institution is by dipping the whole man in water or burying the whole man under the water Col. 2.12 Rom. 6. This although the Lord command the same Mat. 28.19 and examples both of Christ himselfe Mar. 1.9 Mat. 3.16 Iohn the Baptist Ioh. 3.23 Philip and the Eunuch Act. 8.38.39 all of them giving witnesse therunto yet he cannot believe it to be so necessary as that a person who is onely sprinkled with water should be esteemed unbaptised p. 12. But what are his Reasons that perswade him thus to judge he saith at the most sprinkling can be but a defect in the quantity of the element and it 's wonderfull that a Nullity should follow thereupon I answer that it 's wonderfull that any should esteeme that to be an ordinance of Christ which Christ hath never ordained but Christ never ordained sprinkling for his baptising but dipping Mat. 28.19 therefore sprinkling is none of Christs ordinance and so by consequence must needs be a nullity but he saith by thus urging the Text we place the substance of an ordinance in the criticknesse of a word page 13. I answer that we doe place the substance of every ordinance in it's conformity to the Word of God which alone giveth being thereunto and for any to doe otherwise it is very strange but belike he that by the word baptise will not understand to sprinkle and accept the same for Christs ordinance in baptisme which is as much as if by the word circumcise the Iewes should have understood to prick the finger should so have practised and owned the same for the ordinance of circumcision in the judgement of P.B. he is a meere Criticke and placeth the substance of an ordinance of a high nature in the criticknesse of a word as he speaketh And whereas it is said that baptisme resembleth our buriall and resurrection with Christ which sprinkling cannot import Rom 6. Col. 2.12 He answereth that sprinkling or powring water on the face doth hold forth both buriall and resurrection page 14. for those he saith that are sprinkled are under the water and buried if not so then he demandeth how they were baptised unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea when not so much as a hayre of their head was wet I answer that by this reason as they should not be dipped in baptisme so neither should they be sprinkled and yet shall they be under the water and buried neverthelesse This sure is one of the mysteries which hee speaketh of that cannot easily be perceived page 10. but seeing he thus urgeth the baptisme of the cloud and of the sea in this and divers other places desiring that it may be well minded as page 14.29.30 I desire to know whether thereby he understandeth the baptisme instituted by Jesus Christ Mat. 28.9 if he doe not then I demand why he so often urgeth the same for an example in this point if he doe then further demand why contrary thereunto in baptising his Infants as hee would have it esteemed he sprinkleth water in their faces this practice of his to sprinkle water in the face

if persons may be baptised without water must needs be a point of voluntary religion as he speaketh of the Surplise and baptised garments page 15. and hereby any may see how pertinently he allegeth the Scripture But he saith that whilest we thus urge baptisme to hold forth buriall and resurrection we lose that which it holdeth forth equally therewith namely the sprinkling of the conscience in the blood of Christ Esay 52.15 Heb. 10.22 Ezek. 36.25 Heb. 12.24 and the laver of regeneration and our washing in the blood of Christ that blessed Fountaine Acts 22.16 Heb. 10.22 1 Cor. 6.11 Rev. 1.5 To which I answer and deny that sprinkling in the blood of Christ is required to be holden forth in baptisme or that any of the Scriptures by him aledged doe prove any such thing or make any mention at all of baptisme and therefore are not to be applied thereunto being onely metaphors borrowed from those sprinklings used under the Law Heb. 10.19.20.21 22. which although the matter thereof might or did set forth the blood of Christ and the nature of it being applied by faith as 1 Iohn 1.7 yet did not the same at all set forth the manner of baptisme which onely is to be found in the institution Matth. 28.19 and those examples which the Scripture affordeth us thereof Marke 1.9 Matth. 3.16 Acts 8.38.39 together with that conformity and agreement with it hath with death buriall and resurrection whereunto the Lord is pleased to resemble and compare the same Rom. 6.4 1 Cor. 15.29 Col. 2.12 And hee that shall affirme that that act of sprinkling used under the Law is to be observed in baptisme because the matter thereof did set forth the blood of Christ the matter of our cleansing may by as good reason maintaine that all those particular actions required to be used under the Law for the cleansing of the Leaper namely the applying of the blood of his sacrifice to the thumbe of his right hand to the tip of his right care and to the great toe of his right foot ought also to be observed in baptisme seeing that the matter thereof pointed out the blood of Christ as well as that did which was used in sprinkling then which nothing more absurd can be imagined As concerning our washing in the blood of Christ that blessed fountaine the other particular in which he instanceth and saith that we lose by urging baptisme to hold forth buriall and resurrection I answer that he is much mistaken therein for as dipping in the judgement of the spirit of God is washing 2 King 5.14 compared with 10. so likewise unto washing by dipping is necessarily required much water as is seene Iohn 3.23 whereupon it doth follow that like as dipping of the whole man in water and his rising againe forth of the same doth lively hold forth and represent his death buriall and resurrection with Christ according to Rom. 6.3.4.5 Col. 2.12 so likewise his dipping or washing in much water must needes be a full resemblance of his washing in that blessed fountaine the blood of Christ set open to wash in for sinne and for uncleannesse Zach. 13.1 We therefore by urging baptisme to hold forth buriall and resurrection lose not that which ought equally to be holden forth therewith namely our washing in the blood of Christ c. But P. B. himselfe who for baptisme useth sprinkling loseth both buriall and resurrection and that which ought equally to be holden forth with them both also to wit our washing in the fountaine of the blood of Christ for that sprinkling hath neither similitude nor any proportion with any of them But he saith that a thing that is dipped in water is not therefore washed and made cleane to which I answer that then much lesse is that which is onely sprinkled with water therefore washed and made cleane but I have proved before that dipping is washing and therefore he that is dipped is washed and consequently made cleane so farre forth as the ordinance of baptisme doth require that alone serving fully to demonstrate our death buriall resurrection with Christ and the washing away and cleansing us from all filthinesse in the fountaine of his blood Zach. 13 1. Yet this will not suffice therefore he further urgeth that in those Countries where baptisme first begun they dipped often and also rubbed thereby to cleanse pag. 14. I answer that they dipped in those countries where baptisme first began is most certaine and accordingly do we practise and when P. B. can prove that they dipped often c. and also justifie their practice by the Word of God wee shall therein also follow their example But seeing that he conceiveth they dipped and not onely so but also dipped often c. Why then doth he accuse us who dip but once as though that were too often and moreover if they used to dip where baptisme first began then is dipping the old and so consequently the good way Ier. 6.16 and why then doth he reproach the same as a new way pag. 3. and doth not rather as he would teach his reader in the frontice-piece of his booke walke in the old and good way that he may finde rest Ier. 6.16 but it appeares that he loves to wrangle and therefore now contrary to dipping often and rubbing to cleanse he saith that a little water serveth to set forth our washing in the blood of Christ intended in baptisme as well as a great deale and the washing of a part as the face according to the present custome as well as washing of the whole man as appeareth by Christs washing of Peters feet Iohn 13.10 I answer that a little water serveth not so fully to set out our washing in the blood of Christ as a great deale doth and therefore when the Lord himselfe would set forth this thing unto us he doth it not under the resemblance of a little water but of a fountaine of water Zach. 13.1 And hence it was that his messenger baptised in much water Iohn 3.23 Neither doth the washing of a part set forth the cleansing of us from all filthinesse 2 Cor. 7.1 Like as the washing of the whole man doth and therefore that we might draw neere in full assurance it 's required not our faces or feet but that our bodies should be washed in pure waters Heb. 10.22 Christs washing of Peters feet he applyeth that as well as he doth the baptisme of the cloud and of the Sea and therefore as I answered him in that so I shall also in this if hee conceive that Christ by washing of Peters feet would set forth unto us the manner of baptisme I demand then why contrary thereunto he useth to sprinkle his infants faces when he christeneth them And why he doth not rather in a bason of water wash their feet I suppose therefore that he knoweth well enough that Christ by washing of Peters feet would teach all his Disciples humility Iohn 13.15 and not to wash a part