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A28380
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[A] rejoynder to Mr. Henry Danvers his brief friendly reply to my ansvver about infant-baptism / by Richard Blinman ...
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Blinman, Richard.
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1675
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Wing B3192A; ESTC R33230
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itself_o but_o in_o ver_fw-la 51._o the_o case_n be_v concern_v a_o leprous_a house_n how_o that_o shall_v be_v cleanse_v and_o there_o it_o be_v that_o the_o thing_n forementioned_a and_o the_o live_a bird_n be_v to_o be_v dip_v in_o the_o blood_n of_o the_o slay_a bird_n and_o in_o the_o run_a water_n let_v now_o the_o judicious_a reader_n judge_v which_o of_o we_o have_v deal_v unfair_o unfaithful_o partial_o with_o the_o law_n and_o deceitful_o he_o or_o i._n how_o have_v he_o leap_v over_o above_o forty_o verse_n to_o bring_v in_o dip_v in_o the_o water_n to_o maintain_v his_o assertion_n not_o at_o all_o belong_v to_o the_o thing_n treat_v of_o in_o ver_fw-la 5_o 6._o i_o shall_v leave_v it_o to_o his_o conscience_n in_o cool_a blood_n and_o to_o all_o impartial_a reader_n to_o determine_v whether_o he_o must_v not_o run_v to_o a_o synecdoche_n here_o that_o a_o part_n of_o those_o thing_n only_o be_v dip_v and_o not_o the_o whole_a i_o will_v have_v transcribe_v several_a thing_n out_o of_o the_o jewish_a rabbin_n quote_v by_o mr._n ainsworth_n but_o that_o i_o shall_v be_v too_o prolix_a the_o water_n be_v as_o they_o say_v as_o much_o as_o a_o eggshell_n and_o a_o half_a 4._o his_o last_o unhandsome_a reflection_n charge_v upon_o i_o respect_v a_o absurdity_n i_o charge_v upon_o he_o which_o he_o conceive_v will_v return_v upon_o myself_o and_o my_o partner_n too_o with_o disadvantage_n i_o suppose_v he_o mean_v mr._n will_n he_o i_o can_v assure_v he_o his_o information_n fail_v he_o who_o be_v far_o enough_o from_o be_v my_o partner_n and_o that_o be_v of_o his_o miss_v it_o in_o his_o logic_n in_o affirm_v the_o right_a subject_n of_o baptism_n viz._n a_o profess_a believer_n to_o belong_v to_o the_o matter_n and_o essence_n of_o baptism_n for_o answer_n mr._n danvers_n say_v in_o his_o book_n to_o which_o i_o answer_v that_o the_o nullity_n and_o utter_a insignificancy_n of_o infant_n baptism_n be_v make_v appear_v in_o that_o it_o want_v the_o 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least_o foot-step_n of_o this_o last_o assertion_n to_o wit_n that_o the_o subject_n be_v of_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o matter_n but_o in_o effect_n the_o quite_o contrary_a as_o appear_v by_o his_o definition_n of_o the_o subject_n a_o subject_n say_v he_o be_v that_o to_o which_o something_o be_v adjoin_v beside_o the_o essence_n intelligitur_fw-la subjectum_fw-la est_fw-la cvi_fw-la aliquid_fw-la praeter_fw-la essentiam_fw-la adjungitur_fw-la cap._n 19_o instit_fw-la log._n p._n 79._o quae_fw-la de_fw-la aliquo_fw-la praedicantur_fw-la essentialiter_fw-la huc_fw-la non_fw-la pertinent_a ut_fw-la ex_fw-la subjecti_fw-la &_o adjuncti_fw-la definitione_n intelligitur_fw-la therefore_o i_o infer_v the_o subject_n can_v be_v of_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o matter_n for_o that_o give_v part_n of_o the_o essence_n to_o to_o the_o effect_n and_o again_o those_o thing_n that_o be_v predicate_v that_o be_v speak_v of_o another_o thing_n essential_o do_v not_o belong_v to_o this_o as_o 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