Selected quad for the lemma: water_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
water_n	baptism_n	bread_n	sacrament_n	3,616	5	7.3983	4	false

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A16571	All the examinacions of the constante martir of God M. Iohn Bradforde before the Lorde Chauncellour, B. of Winchester the B. of London, [and] other co[m]missioners: whervnto ar annexed, his priuate talk [and] conflictes in prison after his condemnacion, with the Archbishop of york, the B. of Chichester, Alfonsus, and King Philips confessour, two Spanishe freers, and sundry others. With his modest learned and godly answeres. Anno. Domini 1561	Bradford, John, 1510?-1555.	1561 (1561)	STC 3477; ESTC S116578	60,488	240

bycause it may abid y e light I dare be bolde to haue it loke on cōferre it with you or any man in respecte wherof I am glad of your cōming thācke you for your cōming althoughe as I said I desired not your cōminge nwas willing of your cōming or cold be cōtēt of it otherwise Why quod he what is y ● matter wherefore you were condempned for we know not sir quod I ī prisō haue I ben all most two yeres I neuer trāsgressed any of y e lawes wherfore I might iustlye be punished But because I frāckly confessed whereof I repēt not my faith concerninge the sacrament being demaūded in these two points One that there is no trāsubstantiaciō the other that the wicked doo not receaue Christes bodie ▪ Lett vs quoth he loke a litle on the firste do you not beleue christs presence raallye and corporallye in the forme of bread No quoth I. I doo beleue that there Christ is present to the faith of the worthye receauer as there is present bread and wyne to the sences and outwarde man as for any suche presence of including and placing Christe I beleue not nor dare not do Why quoth he I am sure you beleue Christes natural body is circumscriptible And here he made muche a do of two natures of Christ howe that the one is euery where the other is in his proper place demaunding questiōs here about whiche I aunswered with etiam that is affirmatiuelye bycause they were suche as no wise man would haue spente any such tyme about as he did for I neuer herd of any that woulde haue denyed them Nowe then commeth he to this conclusion whiche I prayed hym he woulde make for els he had forgotten howe that because christes body was circumscriptible concerninge the humanitye in in heauen therfore it was so in the bread This hanges not togither quod I because you are here Ergo you are at Romme it is out of Fraunce bycause christes body is in heauen Io. it is in the Sacramēt vnder the forme of bread No wise man wil graunt it quoth I. why quoth he you wil beleue nothing but that which is expresely spoke in the scriptures yes syr quoth I I will beleue what so euer you shall by demonstracions out of the scriptures declare vnto me he is obstinate saieth he to his fellow But quoth he to me is not god able to do it yes syr quoth I But heare the questiō is of gods will and not of his powre Why quoth he Doth he not say plainlye this is my bodye yes quod I and I denye it not but that it is to the faith of the worthie receuer To faith quoth he howe is that Forsothe syr quoth I as I haue no tong to expresse it so I know you haue no eares to heare and vnderstād it for faith seyth more then man can vtter yea but quod he I can tel all that I beleue you beleue not muche then quoth I. For if you beleue the ioies of heauen if you beleue no more then you can tell you wyll not muche desire to come thyther for as the mynde is more capable and receauable then the mouth so it conceaueth more then the tonge can expresse Christe sayth it is hys bodie quoth he And so saye I after a certein maner quoth I After a certein maner quoth hee that is after another maner then it is in heauen saint Augustin quoth I telleth it more plainlye that it is Christes bodye after the same maner circuncysion was the Couenaunte of God and the sacrament of faith is faith or to make it more plaine as Baptisme and the water of baptisme is regeneration Verye wel said quoth he Baptisme and the water therof is a sacrament of gods grace sprit in the water closing the baptisme No syr quoth I away with your inclosing on the same sorte christs bodye is in the bread on whiche sorte the grace and spirite of God is in the water In y e water quod he is gods grace by significacion so is the bodye in the breade quoth I in the Sacrament you are muche deceaued quoth he y t make no difference beetwene the sacramētes that be stāderes and the Sacramētes that are traunseuntes and passers by As for example the sacramente of Order whiche you denye thoughe saint Augustine affirme it is standerd although the ceremonie be paste But in baptisme so sone as the bodie is washen the water cesseth to be a sacrament True good syr quoth I. And so it is in the lordes supper no longer then it is in vse is Christes sacrament Here was maister Alphonsus wounderfullye chafed and speake as often he had done before so that y e hole house dyd ringe againe with an Echo He hath a great name of lerning But surely he hath litle pacience If I had ben any thynge whete one house could not haue kepte vs bothe At the lenght he cometh to that point that I could not find in y e scripture baptisme and the Lords supper to haue any like similitude togither And here lord god what aray he mad how that we would receaue nothinge but scripture yet we are able to proue nothing by the scripture Father ꝙ I for so I called him God forgiue me if I dyd amysse be paciente and you shall see y t by the scripture I will finde baptisme and the Lords supper coupled togither No quoth he that canst thou neuer doo let me see one texte of it and a great ado he made At the lenght syr quoth I Paule sayeth that as we are baptized into one bodie so we are Potati in Vno spiritu we haue dronken of one spirite meaninge it of the Cuppe in the Lordes supper Paule hath no such wordes quod he ▪ yes that he hath quoth I. I trowe he hath not quoth the kinges confessor Giue me a Testament quoth I and I wil showe it to you so a priest that sate by thē gaue me his testamente I showed them the plaine texte Here was nowe lokinge one vpon an other finallye this simple shifte was founde that Paule spake not of the sacramēt Wel sir quod quoth I thoughe the texte be plaine yet I wene the fathers do expoūd it so especially except my memorie faile me Chrisostome doth it Here I seing thē blancke I began to tel them howe I had byn handled in prison with oute boke paper pen yucke and howe vniustly I had ben handled and prayed them that as they tolde me their comminge was to do me good so they woulde doo it and not to do me hurte whiche thyng they much marked not because of the foyle they had which I would haue suppressed Alphonsus therfore whiche had the Testamente in his hande and turned ouer leafe by leafe at the lenght he commeth to the .5 to the Corinthiens and there red howe that he was giltye whiche made no difference of the lordes bodie yea syr quoth I but therwith he