Life are as it were plungeâ down nevertheless so plunged down thaâ they may rise again The Baptism of thâ Spirit is a plentiful Effusion of the Spiritâ and not a sprinkling or small pouring Actâ 2.4 And they were all filled with the Hoââ Ghost These Baptisms are neither Inspersions Conspersions nor Aspersions The Example of our Saviour's being baptized by John in the River of Jordan wherein it 's plain that they went down into the Water and express that he came up out of thâ Water after he had been there baptized oâ dipt rather for so it certainly was the natural signification of the word Baptism being so and the Ordinance it self to Believers signifies the ablution washing away or remission of Sins Death Burial Resurrection thâ Death and Burial of Sin and Resurrection oâ Renovation to Life through the Death anâ Resurrection of Christ Acts 8. v. 38. Anâ they went down both into the water both Philip and the Eunuch and Philip baptized him Ende by doopte hem Dutch and he dipt him The reason why they were dipt in Rivers was given Because there was much Water A little would serve to sprinkle oâ wash the face A good man may and doth sometimes speak rashly and inconsiderately that of which he may have cause to humble himself and repent What Man ân a sedate mind will affirm that our Saviour ever said one word or did one Act âhat was needless or might have been said âr done better Or that John and the other Disciples of our Lord in imitation of him ãâã the ministration of that Ordinance of Baptism put themselves and the people who âelieved and obeyed them to unnecessary Trouble and Labour which certainly they ââd if it ought or might rightly be done otherwise with more expedition and ease ând common prudence of a man would direct if that were to guide and not the ãâã fallible example to the shortest Course âor it is a saying amongst men or Philosophers Frustra fit per plura quod aeque bene âri potest per pauciora But our Saviour did ãâã things well who durst say otherwise ãâã is to be lamented that so many in the several Ages since Christ and his Apostles âave attempted to correct or rather deface ând deform their unerring Pattern They âave made a great deal of Work by attemptââg to shorten it who should make a mock âf Going down into the Water to be baptized when we have no other Example ãâã all the New Testament If a little water sprinkled or poured on the face be enoughâ as they say it is no marvel that they alteâ the Primitive Custom of going down into the Water and count it not only needless but ridiculous and contemptible Certainââ they know not what they say or do anâ therefore though their Sin be horridâ they ought to be prayed for What yoâ quote out of John meerly about washing without relation to the other Circumstances of the Ordinance of Baptism nothing weakens the Baptists Cause in following thâ Primitive Example But may if you way of Arguing be fair be sufficient Proâ and Reason for your self and Party whâ durst alter Institutions to change sprinkling or washing of the Face to washing ãâã the Feet for sufficient Baptism since it ãâã also undoubtedly true what our Saviour said John 13.8 If I wash thee not thâ hast no part in me yet he wash'd only thâ Feet and says He that is wash'd need ãâã wash the whole but the Feet only If the Feet only then not the Face But this ãâã trifling What has been said is sufficient to prove Baptism by dipping without aâ Engine after going down into the Water But I have more to say out of your own Authors who are for Pedobaptism for in deed I have not one Author in my House that manages the Controversie for but several against the so called Anabaptists Therefore I entreat your patience and excuse if I burden you with some impertinent repetitions or frivolous Inferences But ây the way while it is in my Mind I âould ask a Question or two whether is ãâã not a Marvellous Thing that any should âave it entred into his Heart to think that âur Saviour went down into the River and John with him to have a little Water taken âp in the Hand to sprinkle or pour on the âead or Face only Certainly that Act of ârinking or pouring on the Face or Head only with a little Water might have been âone with greater facility And whereas in contempt the Question hath been asked whether they went in naked or with their âloaths on I think it is sufficient that we âave an Account that they undoubtedly went down into the River for an holy End ãâã baptize and be baptized And who in their right Wits durst question the Modeâây or Decency of the Act performed either ây our Saviour his Apostles or Disciples Now to go on Let us consider the Agreement or Disagreement between the Mode âf Sprinkling used by the Pedobaptists and âhe Things represented or signified by true Baptism Berchetus with whose Book I doubt not you are well acquainted in one of his Catechisms hath these Words § 48. Per Baptismum quasi ingredimââ in Dei Ecclesiam Testificatur enim nobiâ Deum nos qui alioqui peregrini sumus cum domesticis collocare velle Baptismus duo nobis repraesentat tum remissionem peccatorumâ videlicet tum spiritualem regenerationem § 49. Quam vero proportionem cum hââ habet aqua ut signum horum esse possit ãâã Respons Quia peccatorum remissio similis es quodammodo lavacro quo ea quae sunt in nostris animis inquinamenta eluuntur quemadmodum corporis sordes aqua abstergimus A regenerationem nostram quomodo aqua innuit ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã Which in Latin he renders thus Quoniam initium quidem ipsius est ut nostrâ natura mortificetur Finis verò ut novae creaturae simus infusa in nestrum caput aquaâ signum mortis est Sed somul etiam nostrum ad vitam reditum subindicat in eo quod nom submersi in aqua perpetuo simus sed tantùm puncto temporis quasi in aliquod sepulchrum subimus ut statim ex eo emergamus In English thus By Baptism we do as it were enter into the Church of God For it is testified to us that God is willing to place us who otherwise are Strangers with those of his own House Baptism represents two Things to us that is to say both Remission of Sins and Spiritual Regeneration § 49. But what Proportion Analogy or Agreement hath Water with these things that it may be a sign of these things Answer Because Remission of Sins after ãâã sort is like a Laver wherein the filthinesses which are in our souls are washed out even as we put away the uncleanness of the body with Water Question But how doth Water signifie our Regeneration Answer Because indeed the beginning thereof is that our nature may be
the Flame aââ abate the Heat of over-grown Zeal whiââ seemed to appear against the Exampleâ our dear Lord and Master and Practiââ of his Disciples As to those with yourself who maintain and defend Infant-Baptism I blame them not I believe thââ are sincere and that they think they aââ in the right and act not against thââ Light perswading themselves from Circumcision and their Childrens being ãâã the Covenant by virtue of their Parenââ Faith However as to the Mode I could almost be as censorious as another in judging a Man of Learning to speak against ââis Knowledge and so his Conscience also when he denies Dipping to be understood by the Word Baptism I shall âot undertake to run through the whole âontroversie I knowing I may unwillingly and weakly abuse a good Cause which âas not wanted Men of Learning and Piety ãâã defend it As to the Word ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã with its Deââvatives your self knows better than I âho profess my self no Master of the âreek Tongue I know you are well acquainted with Scapula and he tells me that ÎÎÎ ÎΩ signifies Mergo Immergo ââem tingo quod fit immergendo item âavo c. ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã Mergo seu Immergo ââbmergo Obruo aquâ Abluo Lavo ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã Mersio Lotio Ablutio ipse imâergendi item lavandi seu abluendi actus And so he goes on with his Derivatives ãâã denoting the use of a great and âot a small sprinkling Quantity of Water George Pasor in his Lexicon hath âhe same with which other Authors aâree as is very well known also to you âendrick Hexham renders the Word Baptism Doopinge which in English we know ãâã Dipping which the Translators of our Bible might as truly have done if they haââ pleased but we and most whose Languages border upon the Latin follow thââ Greek which I think is something of abuse occasioning doubt when perhaps there would be none In three other Dutch Dictionaries which I have also Baptism is rendred Een doopsel doââ which again turned into Latin is Baptisma c. Immersio c. ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã Ick doopââ doopen baptizare mergere immergeââ c. ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã Een dooper baptized Gedoopâ The day of one's Baptism Den dagh vââ yemants doopinge den doop-dagh Noâ to the Text it self in Dutch Bibles ãâã several Translations Matth. 3.5 6. Dâ is tot hem uytgegaen Jerusalem ende gheheââ Judea ende 't gheheele lant rontom den Joââ daen Ende wierden van hem ghedoopt in ãâã Jordaen beliidende hare sonden Verse ãâã Hy dan siende vele van de Phariseen enââ Sadduceen tot siinen doop komen sprack â v. 11. Ick doope u wel met water tot bekeââ ringhe maer dic na my komp is sterckââ dan ick c. die sal u met den heyligââ geest ende met vyer doopen Here ãâã pleased to Observe that the Dutââ are not ashamed to say according to the Original if the Word with ãâã there I dip you with Water which you were pleased to say was Nonsence ââbeg of you to excogitate and declare ãâã way how to be dipt in it without it ââer 13. Doe quam Jesus van Galilea na ãâã Jordaen tot Joannem om van hem gheââopt te worden Jesus came c. to be ââpt Doch Joannes c. My is noodich âân u ghedoopt te worden I have need to be âât of thee v. 16. Ende Jesus ghedoopt ââinde is ter stondt opgeklommen uyt het Waâââ c. And Jesus when he was dipt went ãâã straightway out of the Water The three ââveral Bibles of several Translations âhich I have by me though they exââess truly other things in differing words âet they all agree in Words signifying ãâã Baptizing Dipping Now a little of the Text in Greek âat 3.11 ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã saith Pasor ex Hebraismo hîc redundat âgo quidem baptizo vos aquâ I baptize you ãâã with Water as you affirm in opposition ãâã Dipping Suppose ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã be superfluous âhere is nothing of the Cause lost by it ââor there can be no Dipping in it without ãâã and therefore they must dip with it âut forasmuch as ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã is in the Text why should it be turned out Some Translators continue it it I have three Translation that have it One in Flemish another Spanish and a third in Italian The former in Dutch hath it thus Matth. 3. Ick doope u in 't water tot penitentie maâ by die na mij comen sal is stercker dan ickâ wâens schoenen ick niet waerdich en ben ãâã draghon die sal u doopen in den heyligââ gheest ende vier This Version printeâ 1548. In the Other in Spanish it is thus Mar. 3. v. 11. Yo ciertamente os baptizo ãâã agua para conversion mas el que viene traâ mâ mas poderoso es que yo cuyos çapatâ yo no soy digno de llevar El os baptizan en Espiritu sancto y fuego Testament printeâ 1596. Here you have In retain'd aâ in the Greek and so I baptize or dip iâ Water In Italian thus Jo certamente vi battâ zo in acqua alla penitentia ma quello ãâã viene doppo me è piu possente die me dâ quaele io non sono degno di portare i Calzamentâ esso vi battezera in Spiritò santo et fuâcâ If dipping with Water be Nonsence theâ pray accept of dipping in The Senââ you have in the 2 Kings 5.14 ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã c. Then went Naaman down and dipped himself seven times in Jordan Here we may observe that he went down into the Water and yet is said to baptize or dip himself in ân Jordan Immersit se as Pasor has it Therefore his going down was no hinâerance to his total Immersion or Dipping which you have been pleased to intimate but did facilitate it It is too trifling to talk of an Engine The usual way of Plunging is certainly as near the Original Pattern and Institution as can enter into the Heart of Man and that Submersion that is usually made if considered will be found to be an Immersion even of the very Feet by the Administrator Beyond what is possible God expects not from Man Baptism as is respects Doctrine whether it be of Water or of the Spirit or Affliction signifies more than a Sprinkling or Pouring and the two latter are an Allusion to the former Joh. 20.22 Are you able to drink of the Cup that I shall drink of and to be Baptized with the Baptism that I am baptized with That Baptism of our Saviour was the Baptism of Afflictions more than a Sprinkling He was a Man of Sorrow and acquainted with Grief The Metaphor saith Pasor is familiar to the Scriptures in which Afflictions are compared to Whirlpools of Water with which those whâ are annoy'd with the Miseries and Calaâmities of this
mortified but the end that we may be new Creatures the water poured on our head âs the sign of Death But together therewith doth also somewhat demonstrate that forasmuch as we are not continually supprest or continued immers'd in the water âut only for a moment of time we go down as it were into some Grave that we may presently arise out of it Now am I necessarily induced to treat of the subject proper to be baptized together with the Mode or Manner how in doing which some other things perhaps may fall under cousideration First What a Church is The Catholick Church consisteth only of the Predestinate and comprehendeth the universal number of all those which shall be saved not only those now living on earth but all that have been since the beginning of the world John 10.16 A particular Church is a member of the Universal and Catholick Church and it is a Visible Company and Congregation of men among whom the pure Word of God is preached and the Sacraments rightly administred c. Vid. Willet's Synopsis Papismi Page 51 52 53. That Baptism gives entrance into the Visible Church So Vrsinus Page 412. Baptism is instituted to be a Token and Symbol of our receiving and entrance into the Church For these are opposed and contradictory To be and Not to be in the Church To enter and Not to enter into the Church For God will have all the Citizens of his Church thus enfranchised and those who are not baptized when they may he will not have Reckoned in the number of his Church Hither appertain all those places in which those who were become Christians by believing for there is no other way as the Ethiopian Eunuch Cornelius the Jaylor of Philippi Lydia the seller of purple Paul c. are said to have been presently baptized Wherefore the Supper also is given only to them who are baptiz'd for they only are received into the Church of this end bear Witness those words of Christ Mat. 28.19 Go and teach all Nations baptizing them c. where the Word ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã ãâã which Christ useth properly signifieth make Disciples thus it is expounded by John Joh. 4.1 The Pharises heard that Jesus made and baptized more Disciples than John Again That it should be a mark whereby the Church may be discerned from all other Nations and Sects This end followeth on the former For they who by a Publique Sacrament are received into the Church are by the self same discerned and as by a Badge distinguished from the remnant the filth of the World Go and teach all Nations baptizing them as if he should say Gather me a Church by the Word and whom ye shall make my Disciples believing with their whole heart all them and them alone Baptize and separate unto me Again Baptism should be a signification or an advertisement unto us of the Cross and of the preservation of the Church therein and of the deliverance of the Church from it For it signifieth that they who are baptized are plunged as it were in affliction but with assurance of escaping thence Hence afflictions are termed by the name of Baptism are ye able to be baptized with the Baptism that I shall be Baptized with Deliverance from the Cross the very Ceremony it self of Baptism doth shew For we are Dipped indeed but we are not drowned or choaked in the Water Moreover in respect of this end Baptism is compared to the Flood c. and to the red Sea c. What the Learned Vrsinus brought in as the first and chief end of Baptism I designing brevity and not thinking to transcribe so much have omitted and therefore inverting the order think now to mention it as that which is material viz. that the end of Baptism is to be a Confirmation of our Faith that is a solemn testification when Christ testifieth that he washeth us with his blood and Spirit that is that he bestoweth on us remission of Sins Justification and Regeneration Or the Chief end is To be the Sealing of God and obsignation of the promise of grace that is of our Justification and Regeneration and a testimony of God's Will that he giveth the baptized these gifts at this present and will give them ever hereafter Again John's Baptism and ours the same for substance John preached the Baptism of repentance for remission of Sins saying unto the people that they should believe in him that should come after him that is in Christ Jesus ours that they should believe in Christ Jesus already come Pag. 414. you have this The right and lawfull use then of Baptism is when the Converted are Baptized with observation of that Rite and End which Christ appointed They who are Baptized cannot receive that which is promised but by Faith pag. 409. The Word Baptism signifieth a Dipping in Water or Sprinkling with Water saith he But the Reason âhis saying this latter is not because it is âe proper signification of the Word but ââcause Custom hath brought it in use ãâã Sprinkling instead of Dipping Those of the East Church saith he were dipped their whole Body in the Water Those of the North in Colder Countries âre only sprinkled with Water c. Thus ãâã Vrsinus Perkins his Golden Chain Page 132. The Ancient custom of Baptizing was to dip and as it were to dive all the body of the Baptized in the Water aâ may appear in Paul Rom. 6. Know ye not that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his Death Therefore we are buried with him by Baptism into Death that like as Christ was raised from the Dead by the Glory of the Father eveâ so we also should walk in Newness of Lafe And the Counsels of Laodicea and Neocaâ sarea but now especially in cold Countries the Church useth only to sprinkle the baptized by reason of Childrens weakness for very few of ripe years are noâ a days baptized we need not much maâ vail at this Alteration seeing Charity anâ necessity may dispence with Ceremonies and mitigate in Equity the sharpness ãâã them Thus far Perkins Whether theâ may be a dispensation for an Alteration ãâã that part of the Institution is a Question But if it be proved that Believers onâ and not Infants are the proper Subjects ãâã Baptism the Reason for Alteration will ãâã out of Doors Now I will present you ãâã Account of the Opinion and positive Assertion of that undoubtedly Learned aââ Pious Divine John Calvin out of his Instations a Book worthy high Esteem aââ by your self thought so Excellent thâ you say he said true who said thâ since our Saviour's time none but the âââpostles have equalled it Folio 470. âage 2. § 19. His Words are these having ââeated about Baptism Caterum mergaââne totus qui tingitur id que ter an semel an ââfusa tantum aqua aspergatur minimum reâât sed id pro regionum diversitate Ecclesiis liâârum esse debet Quanquam et
Gospel-Baptism OR PLAIN PROOF That the Mode of Dipping Plunging or Immersion now commonly used by the People called Anabaptists is according to the Primitive Institution In a LETTER TO Mr. Samuel Young Occasioned by his Sharp Reflections in Contempt of that Way and the Defenders thereof in a small Book ENTITULED A Second and Last New-Years-Gift c. With some Notes concerning the True SUBJECT By a Lover of Truth Magna est Veritas prevalebit LONDON Printed by K. Astwood and Sold by William Marshall at the Bible in Newgate-street and John Marshal at the Bible in Grace-church street 1700. Plain Mathematical Demonstration that according to the present Mode of Baptizing commonly used by the People called Anabaptist the Person Baptized is plunged or dipt by the hands of the Administrator even from the Crown of the Head to the very Soles of the Feet To demonstrate that a persons going âwn into the Water hinders not his total âmersion or Plunging by the Administrator Supppose a K to be a Staff standinâ upright with the foot K on the bottom oâ the River I K let h c represent the Suâ face or upper part of the Water let a person be supposed to take hold of the Toâ of the Staff and impel or immerge thâ Staff towards the Earth till the head ãâã covered in the Water Tell me then you can the least particle of such staff that hath not receiv'd an Immersion ãâã plunge by the hand of such person notwithstanding its being in the Water before You may imagine infinite parallels between the surface of the Water and the Earth the least motion of the top of the Staff towards the Earth makes an Immeââsion of every particle beneath its formââ parallel of Altitude The same may be said of a person to ãâã Baptized the going down into the Water is no part of the immersion That paââ is effectually and really done by the Administrator and in no part Imaginary whiââ I think now a Child may understand aââ therefore I need not doubt a Philosopherââ This may suffice to Answer the nââ Objection that the Baptists act contrary to their own principles by going down ãâã to the Water themselves To the READER I Humbly beseech a Favourable Eye a Smooth Brow a Pleasant and Complacent Aspect the Abdication of Morose Animosity Preââdice Rancour Enmity and the Exercise of âumanity Patience Self-Denial Coolness and âedateness of Mind at least for so long or little ââ while 'till he supposed Criminal hath proposed and pleaded his Cause made his Defence and Appeal and then being fully heard to ââss Censure give Judgment and pass Senâânce impartially according to Merit or Deââerit either unto Condemnation or Vindication and Acquittal like a Righteous and ânbyassed and not a Sufflated-Aetnean-Evoââitant-Sententious-Judge It is too Natural and hath been too Vsual ââr Adversaies to throw Dirt at and bespatter ââe another though thereby they foul their own ââingers And commonly they are Lynx-eyed ãâã the discovering others Blemishes though as ââind as a Bat in the Observation of their own ââotâ It is Vndeniable That there is no Church or ââcieây of People of what Denomination soever but there may be found or hath been somââ whose Ignorance or Scandalous Life hath been oââ may be a Reproach unto them and such who arâ faulty may justly pass under a severe Censure but it is very unjust to condemn the Principle of any Society for the ill Practice or Ignoranââ of a Few What Intolerable Reflections have been made upon the Innocent and upon a true Principle for or because of the Extravaganciââ whether all were true or no which may bââ questioned considering these times of Knipperdolin and John of Leyden as if aâ that profess'd Believers Baptism were such Calvin calls them Furiosi or Madmen and most Writers contemn them as if their Principles were prodiglously Erroneous Dr. Featly on the Title-Page of his Book has the Picture of the Heads with a little more of several with Faces of such Features as renders them contemptible and as if God had not given them ãâã good shapes as other Men with design thereby to make himself admired as a Famous Oppose and Mall to that People Many unfaââ Ways have many at this Day used to begââ an ill Opinion of this People that what theâ say for themselves may not be regarded On main Argument against them is That theâ Ministers generally are no Scholars but illiteraââ Tradesmen and guilty of great Impropriety ãâã Speech It is true that it is the unhappiness of âome to be so tho' probably we may find as Learned men among us as among others and also as ânlearned persons amongst others as amongst us âesides it is evident on the other hand that the ââeatest Scholars do not always make the greatest or best Preachers And considering the advantages of School Learning that some men have they make as great flaws as those which ââey contemn though not in the same thing Where there is Grace and a Gift for preaching in some mechanick the goodness of God is the more to be admired and a man of Learning âearing such speak well may be drawn into adâiration at a disappointment The graces and Gifts of God are still unlimited The Spirit âoweth where it listeth To be short to understand the Tougues is but a humane though it ãâã a useful and ornamental Accomplishment And in those who have it not it is no defect in âature but an unhappy want of Education which may be where there is plentiful Grace therefore people should have a Care how they cast âântempt upon a gifted Tradesman First In this little Tract I have I hope âoved that John and the ââst of the Disciples have not declared that they Plunged not Secondly That Plunging is not contrary âât according to the Doctrine of Baptism and therefore the only Lawful Baptism Thirdly That as it is a Duty and Command we rightly practice it And if so Then to some it will appear that those who have Screw'd their Brains to squeeze out the Quintessence of the derivate verb Baptizo to make it a diminutive inceptive and sâ not exceeding nay hardly amounting to so much as Rantizo have thereby so exalted their own Wits that to them the Old Lexicographers and the Learned in past Ages seem to have imposed upon ignorant posterity nay the Greeks have not understood their own tongue And aâ this to bring the real extensive significative ordinance of Baptism to no more then a little sprinkling or pouring a little Water from the Palm of a Mans hand which they falsly call washing Tertullian Id verum quodcunque primumid adulterum quod posterius I shall add no more but beg of God tâ open the blind Eâys that they may behold ãâã Splendor of Truth and be in Love with it Mr. Sam. Young's Letter SIR BEfore your Papers go to the Press I pray you to see my next where you shall find ââings done Ex professo and
ipsum baptiâândi verbum mergere significat mergendi ââum veteri Ecclesiae observatum fuisse constat English thus But whether he that is baptiââd may be dipt all over or wholly plunged ââd that thrice or once or whether Water being poured on he be sprinkled only it matters ââry little but that ought to be left free to ãâã Churches according to the diversity of Reââns or Countries Although also the Word it self of Bapââing signifies to Dip and it is manifest ââat the Rite of Dipping hath been obââved by the Ancient Church The forââer Period is Sua fert Opinio his Opinion or Think so and is the Matter in ââspute The latter his positive Assertion ãâã the Primitive Mode of Baptism according to our Saviour's Institution Mat. 28. ãâã Go ye therefore and teach all Nations ââtizing them c. which ought to take ââace with the Exclusion of all other Modes And his true Assertion of the Primitive Practice and Example and I should say Command leaves no room for his Opinion of Indifferency in the Matter Especially we may judge so since we find him upon solid Grounds employing his worthy and in many things unerring Pen in the use of that so much decry'd contemn'd and ridicul'd by your self recounted and so accounted in your Second New-years-Gift Pag. 22. way of arguing used by the Anabaptists See Calvin's Inst cap. 17. fol. 509. of the Lord Supper § 50. Tertio cur de pane simpliciter dixit ut ederent de calice ut omnes biberent Acsi Satanae calliditati ex destinatâ occurrere voluisset Imò qua id fiducia hodâ usurpant ut plebeculae symbolum Christi Corporâ distribuant si nullum habent Domini vel Man datum vel Exemplum Why did our Lord sâ plainly that they should eat of the Bread and thââ they should all drink of the Cup As if it haâ been his Pleasure and Design to meet with and oppose the Subtilty of Satan Yea with what confidence at this day do they usurp thââ thing that they should distribute to the poor people the Sign of Christ's Body if they have neither thâ Lord's Precept nor Example Thus far Calvinâ And this occasioned by their cutting the Sacrament of the Lord's Supper shorter or taking away what they thought was superfluous in the Institution administring the Sacrament in one kind only to wit the Bread and with-holding the Cup from the People ârguing that the Bread was the Body of Christ and therefore that the Blood must âeeds be there by way of Concomitanây So that receiving one they received âoth Calven tells them There 's no Preâept nor Example for this The Argument was good and of like weight is it against those who add to or diminish from âe other institution of Baptism either as ãâã Matter Manner or Subject In your opinion a little Water to sprinkle may ârve to represent all the things signified by Baptism to wit the word it self Dipâng which is clearly another thing Washing Death Burial Resurrection âtting on of Christ overwhelmed with âflictions a being filled with the Spirit c. âll which are plentiful expressions and significations That I may speak after Calvin Our Saviour did as it were of set purpose obââate the subtilty of Satan in the error of ârinkling instead of Baptism in being ââmself an example of going down into the River where was plenty of Water therein he was Baptized or Dipt whereby was fully represented all things without diminution But perhaps you may say Quoâ sum haec To what end is all this Have wââ not had enough of this already Perhapâ you have But since I have gone thus faâ and farther then I thought for at first ãâã for a Hundred in for a Thousand I aââ minded to run the hazard of the best paââ of my Stock therefore beg your patience and entreat you to get your bags ready fââ in a little time Deo volente I will pay you all Now it will be convenient to walk baââ and over-hall part of the Thread already spun to see whether I can mend it Lââ me say something among the rest of the Quality of the Subject to be baptized I must to the Catechism for I find ãâã least that he must be a Catecheumen Sââ Berchetus before By Baptism we do ãâã it were enter into the Church Tââ Church of Christ is built up of liveâ Stones upon the Living Stone and Roââ Christ 1 Peter 2.4 5. The Life oââ Christian is Faith the just shall live by ãâã Faith Hab. 2.4 John 17.3 This ãâã Life Eternal that they might know thee ãâã only true God and Jesus Christ whom thâ hast sent This knowledge of God aâ and Christ is by faith only what is not ãâã Faith is sin All Acts of Religious wââship ought to be in Faith which is the ârue knowledge of God in Christ Baptism âs a part of Religious Worship therefore ãâã ought to be performed with Faith by âhe Subject There is Confession with the Mouth Rom. 10.9 If thou shalt confess with by Mouth the Lord Jesus and shalt believe in âââe heart that God hath raised him from the âead thou shalt be saved Faith which is âer joyned with repentance and confession qualifies for Baptism and Baptism ââr a Regular admission to Communion at âhe Lords Table in a True Regular Viâble Church It is true also that Believers and Elect Children do first belong to âhe Invisible Catholick Church before âea and if they should never be joyned ãâã a Visible Church But that is not our âusiness to discourse of our business is âith a Visible Church which admits of âone but such as make an Audible and âisible Profession of Faith which in Chariây may be judged Real For man knoweth ât the heart The next in the Catechism ãâã For it is Testified to us that God is willing ãâã place us who otherwise are Strangers with ââose of his own house Testified to us Can this be meant to a âabe or babes that have Eyes and see not âars but hear not neither do they understand No it cannot be therefore the proper Subject must be a Believer Youngâ or Older who otherwise are Strangeâ that is being without Faith for thâ are we Strangers to the Common-wealth of Israel That God is willing to place ãâã with those of his own House which is ãâã Church We are to know God's will thââ before our Admission or Orderly Reception into his Visible Church for of the Invisiââ in respect of Election we were Member before In short all the Representationsâ Baptism that can be reckoned up are no ãâã presentations to a Babe that hath no Understanding of Things done or said Neither indeed is any thing in a Catechiââ significant but to such who have a comââtent Understanding and so some ground ãâã Hope that as they understand Things Gââ will work Faith to believe them Theââfore since no Man can find out a reason ãâã cause in the Creature why a Creature
3.6 They were baptized confessing their Sins Secondly That Salvation dependeth oâ Faith not of Baptism it may appear John 5.24 He that believeth is passed from death to life he that believeth shall be savedâ and it followeth in this place hâ that will not believe shall be damned He saith not he that will not be baptized Baptism is joined notwithstanding to Belief that no Man should neglect oâ despise the Ordinance of God Willet Symptis Papismi pag. 463. Acts 10.47 The Holy Ghost went before and then Baptism followed the thing signified appeared first and then thâ Sign or Seal was added Can any forbid water saith St. Peter that these should mâ be baptized which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we Willet quotes Augustine Per fidem renascimur in baptismate By Faith we are bonâ again in baptism It is then the proper Act oâ Faith to regenerate us not of Baptismâ the Use and End whereof is to strengthen and increase our Faith If so Faith must be before Baptism or how can it be aâ Instrument to increase it Willet pag. 492. That Infants neither have Faith in themselves nor yet are profited or furthered to their Salvation by the Faith of others it is thus proved 1. St. Paul saith Faith cometh by Hearing and Hearing by the Word of God Rom. 10.17 But Infants can neither hear nor understand the Word of God Ergo no Faith is wrought in them 2. There is no habitual or potential Faith that pleaseth God but the Justifying Faith is always actual working by love Gal. 5.6 Ergo Children have either no Faith or it must needs be an actual or working Faith 3. Infants are not justified nor relieved or helped forward towards their Salvation by the Faith of their Parents or God-fathers when they are baptized For the Scripture saith The just shall live by Faith Rom. 1.17 that is by his own Faith not the Faith of another before God they are no more helped by the Confession of anothers Mouth than by the Belief of anothers Heart Wherefore it is not either the Faith of the Parents or the Confession of the Witnesses that supplieth the lack of both in Infants Vrsinus pag. 414. Teach all c. baptizing them that is all who by your doctrine come unto me and are made my Disciples The Order here is to be noted and observed He willeth first that they be taught and after that they be baptized For he speaketh of Men of Years which should be converted unto the Faith and Gospel of Christ Wherefore he will not have the Sacraments to be dumb but signifyeth that the Word ought to go before and then the Sacraments to follow Very true thus far This is Gospel But I will give something more of his own Opinion and what is also in common with other Pedobaptists which is this And among them are numbred the Infants also of such as come unto Christ or are Christ's Disciples For their Infants also are Disciples as being born in the School of Christ For to be born in the Church serveth to the Infants instead of their Profession There 's his ipse dixit for that and not one Word oâ God for it But I doubt not but that he has a Friend to stand by him in it See him further The Use of the Sacrament without Faith doth not save therefore with Faith it doth save The want of the Sacrament doth not condemn Yet so as that want of the Sacrament be without contempt For not the want but the contempt of the Sacraments condemn as which cannot possibly be where Faith is This last Paragraph is sufficiently witnessed to by Calvin and other Authors See Calvin concerning Infants in Covenant Shewing that their Salvation is undoubted and independant of Baptism or any other Helps or Accessions if it should happen that they pass out of this Life antequam aqua mergi datum fuerit before they are baptized or dipt Instit folio 471. Now to come close to the Business it is certain that the Spiritual Part of the Promise made to Abraham was to his Spiritual Seed He spake not of Seeds as of many but of one that is Christ and if you are Christs then are you Abrahams seed and heirs according to promise What is plainer to exclude a Carnal Seed from all pretences to spiritual Priviledges The promises are to you and to your seed and to as many as the Lord shall call that is such as shall have an Essectual Call for it must be such as obey the Call Otherwise the unbelieving Jews to whom this was preached must really be Heirs and certainly possess the Kingdom of Heaven For such as are in the Everlasting Covenant shall certainly never perish but inherit Everlasting Life for whom God loves he loves to the End We are all by Nature Children of Wrath we are Children of God no other way then by Faith in Christ Jesus But whether go I Is this true Doctrine Is there not a mistake Pray what becomes of Infants who have not Faith neither capable of it Must these be lost God forbid who durst say it nay who durst think it But we are speaking of Church-members Pray what Church Is it a Visible Church or the Invisible Church of all God's Elect that Infants are born Members of If by their Birth into the World they have an Entrance into and an Existence in this invisible Church then are they certainly in the Everlasting Covenant which shall never be broken and all the Powers of Darkness shall never prevail against them to exclude them and if they dye in Infancy they are certainly safe If they live to be adult they shall certainly be made partakers of the Graces of the Covenant God will write his Law in their Hearts they shall have Faith God will be to them a God and they shall be to him a People and they will conform to his revealed Will. If they are born in and so are Members of a Visible Church I think I need not question but that you mean a Church of Christ and if so then the Question is not to be Vbi Where for it must be where the Child is born But the Question must be How an Enquirer may know that to be a Church of Christ where the Child is born This is somewhat wild If it be said the Parent is a Church-member and so being in the Church the Child coming into the World at the same time falls into the Churches Lap and is also a Church-member and under the Churches care even before Baptism and consequently must be baptized So much for the Infants Now for the Adult How can it be said that they are Members of a Church visible I mean according to the former desinition till they have made a profession of Faith and have had a formal Admission and that by Baptism If you say they are Members of the Invisible Church and so have a Right to Baptism No Person that I know of denies
it But who knows which do and which do not belong to the Invisible Church It is the Searcher of Hearts God alone that knows who are his Man can make Judgment of no more than Profession and Practice which fall under the Observation of the Senses Can they be said to be of and not of a visible Church at the same time In your New-Years-Gift pag. 22. your words are these Brethren be sober Are not all that are added to the Church to be baptized Are no Infants added to the Church are they lost were they not once added to the Church Page 24. of ditto Again you say For my part I have been long of the Opinion Baptism is not properly an initiating Ordinance whether of Infants or Adult they are noâ baptized and so made Church-members but they are Church-members and so baptized Coronation doth not make a King but declare him so c. Acts 2.38 And Peter said unto them Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the Remission of Sins c. v. 39. For the promise is unto you and to your Children and to all that are afar off even as many as the Lord our God shall call v. 41. Then they that gladly received his Word were baptized and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand Souls And they continued stedfastly in the Apostles Doctrine and Fellowship and breaking of Bread and in Prayers no Infants could be of this number And fear came upon every Soul Infants know nothing therefore can fear nothing And all that believed were together c. 46 47. And they continued daily with one accord in the Temple and breaking bread from house to house did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart Praising God and having favour with all people and the Lord added to the Church daily such as should be saved None of the Characters of these People which were added to the Church agree with Infants And was it not next to a Miracle if none of these three Thousand had an Infant or young Child and would it not be a greater wonder if they so had that they did not make hast to baptize such Child lest it should go out of the World before it was made a Christian by Baptism And if it had been so baptized is it not as great a Wonder that we have no Record of any such thing especially if it were of that weight for Infants to be baptized as some People esteem and affirm Certainly it is more probable that some of these three Thousand had Infants than that there were Infants baptized in the two or three Families whereof it is said They believed with all their House and that they rejoiced with all their House For Infants cannot properly be said to do either But why should we expect a Record of that for which there was no Prescript or Command by the great Law-giver which if it had been his Will certainly he would have been as plain and positive as the Lord was in the Command to Abraham in the Covenant of Circumcision But the Gospel is more spiritual is a New Covenant the Right of Gospel Ordinances comes in by Faith and the Pedobaptists themselves as I have shown acknowledge the Insignificancy of Infants baptism unless they confirm it by their own Faith when they are grown up You your self are pleased to use probable Arguments you see here I have imitated you You see those who were added to the Church they were such as were baptized Are no Infants added to the Church visible No none without a Profession and Profession they are not capable of because they have not Faith as I have shewed out of your own Writers Are they lost No ne'er the more nor sooner for want of Baptism as I have made it appear out of your own Writers Calvin Vrsinus c. First It is Contempt and not the wanâ of the Sacrament doth condemn Vrsinus c. Now Children cannot contemn for they know nothing of the Matter Secondly The Parents who are Godly and are for Believers Baptism they contemn not Baptism by retaining their Infants from it but so retain them because their Consciences tell them that it would be a profaning of the Sacred Ordinance by preferring an improper and unqualified Subject to it And if they should so do it would be their Sin If the Parents sin therein I mean by retaining the Children from Baptism the Child will not suffer for their Parents sin Well say you Were not Infants once added to the Church I answer Yes To the Jewish Church-National according to your sense if I mistake not as soon as they were born but had not the Seal of the Church-Covenant till eight Days after But what is that to the Gospel-Church state The Church state now is not National but Congregational as many as God shall call into the Houshold of Faith as hath been sufficiently demonstrated already It is not buying with Money will give a Right to Baptism Excluding Infants from Baptism excludeth them not from Salvation as hath been said before I must have one probable Argument more about the three thousand Is it likely that among these there was not one Woman when commonly they are the more plentiful Sex If there was one certainly she must be a Communicant for they brake Bread from House to House We read of Womens believing and being baptized and Believers were commanded to observe all things that were delivered unto them Now if you can prove that any Infants believed then you may find out another probable Argument on your part But let that pass we have enough without far fetched Things You say Infants are Church-members and so baptized Coronation doth not make a King but declare him so But Kings have become so by God's choice immediately whereof the Prophets have given Testimony others mediately by Men others so by Conquest So others Hereditary and are so by some standing Law and all these precede Coronation and by all these ways God sets up Kings Sâ when God by his Law qualifies a Person and makes him a spiritual King by giving him Faith and writing his Law in his Heart making him his child then is baptism as a Crown to declare him such in the Church of God A Word to your Comparison of the Table it looks a Kitchin one for such Tables are wont to be wash'd Pag. 24. Suppose you had a Table equally dirty every where and your Maid should pour Water on and that but a little at one end or if it were a round Table and so had no end only a little on one part and there wash'd and no further would you then say that Table was wash'd Even such is your Parties Practice If she had washed all over she had done the Business and in doing that there must have been not only Inspersion or Aspersion but Frication and Abstersion Thus you see for one Trifle I but in another
Pray condemn me not for my presuming Ingratitude in that I so saucily take part of your New-Year-Gift and throw it ân your Face For it is to a good End only to act the part of an Occulist to make you rub your Eyes that you may the better âe the Vanity of your own admired Arguments in opposition to the solid Judgment âf the primitive Christians the very Nature ând Native Property of Languages the Aseveration of the most Pious and Learned who would not lye for God nor talk deceitfully in a cause that they thought for him and had so much Candor and Integrity that they would acknowledge the Truth âf the Thing though it made most against them in the management of a Cause with their strenuous and utmost Skill Dexterity and Wit Nay you have opposed two Councils mentioned by Perkins a Pious and Reverend Divine To stick by your Arguments against Dipping is as absurd and ridiculous as to say there is no such place as China or the East or West Indies Wheâ things are Evident in themselves and wherein all Parties are agreed as concerning Womens Communion at the Lord's Table they having the same Essential part that gives a right to wit Faith and Admission by Baptism into the visible Churchâ There need no Dependance upon the Rule of Grammar And for a Man that he must bear Rule in his own House it is Evident in its own Nature Can there be as Ordinance and no Coherence of the Quality of the Subject that is to Obey Thâ very Word Ordinance denotes in thâ Institution a Subject capable of Obedience and to all right Obedience there must be Faith unless it were otherwise declared in the Institution The Stones iâ the Spiritual Building ought to be Living Stones You were pleased to say That Dipping with Water was Nonsense I say That to say a Man that is distracted is out of his Wits is also Nonsense foâ the proper Meaning is that his Wits are out of him But the Phrase hath obtained so much Reputation by Custom and runs so smooth that I should be accounted little other than delirious if I should attempt to alter the Vulgar and Smooth and bring in the Rugged and Harsh sounded Expression The Wits are out of the Man And indeed there is need of no Alteration since every one understands the Meaning to be good Sense Well I have proved the manner of Baptism to be by dipping in Water I beseech you let it pass smooth by the Name or Phrase Baptizing with Water since several ways there are and have been shewed Reasons for it There is one Argument comes into my Mind that is much used by your Party The Foederal Holiness of Children 1 Cor. 7.14 The unbelieving Husband is sanctified by the Wife and the unbelieving Wife is sanctified by the Husband else were your Children unclean but now are they holy If this Holiness were a Fruit of special Grace and of the Everlasting Covenant or a Sanctification in the Womb such as John's was it would certainly end in Glorification and the Way leading to that end would be a Holy Life But common Experience hath found that the Life and Death of the Childrne of the Believer have many times appeared as bad as the Life and Death of the Children of the most profane And therefore the Holiness cannot as they come of their Parents be the Holiness of the Everlasting Covenant I tell you or rather all Men know what it is not by the Issue and Event I leave it to others to define what it is The Papists affirm That the Baptism if Children and Infants is grounded upon Tradition and not upon Scripture The Protestants answer It were very hard if we had no more certain Ground for the Baptizing of Infants than Tradition which is but a feeble Weapon to fight against Hereticks withal Willet's Synop. pag. 491. Then they produce Scriptures Gen. 17. 1 Cor. 7.14 c. as is usual and need no Repetition Dr. Stilling fleet late Bishop acknowledgeth in his Scripture proof iâ Opposition to the Papists a necessity of a Profession of Faith in order to Baptism and so brings in a necessity of Sponsors and affirms that what they cannot do personally by themselves they do by their Sponsors In a Book Entituled Duplies of the Ministers and Professors of Aberdene to the Second Answers of some Reverend Brethren concerning the late Covenant Pag. 97. you have it thus Lastly Of the Stipulation of Godfathers in Baptism instanced by us in our Fifth Demand ye have spoken nothing particularly either in your First or Second Answers We have no Precept or Example of it in Holy Scripture Yea some of our Learned Divines affirm that it was instituted by Pope Higynus and ye will not deny that it hath been much abused in Popery How cometh it to pass then that this Ceremony is allowed and used by some of you We say some for we are informed that some of your Mind do not use it at all See Dr. Morton in his Defence of the Three Ceremonies pag. 24. See Pet. Martyr on the 6th Chapter of âhe Epistle to the Romans and Gerard in Loc. Theolog. Tom. 4. Here by the way Observe that the Doctors and Ministers of Aberdene as I noâed Calvin did before did esteem the not having Precept or Example in Holy Scripture for Practice of a Thing an Argument of sufficient weight to perswade them against it and to reject it You may be pleased to observe the several Shifts that the Pedobaptists have been put to to support the Ungospel-like Practice of Sprinkling or Baptizing as it is called Infants First As to the Subject The Gospel-Church-member is expresly declared to be a Believer not a Word in the Scriptures of any other but such baptized That Infant-Baptism may be proved they have recourse to the Practice of Circumcision enjoyned to Abraham and his Seed though we read not of any Doctrine of Faith preached to any that were admitted to it They that were bought with Money by an Express Command from God were to be circumcised Infants say they were circumcised then and why not Children baptized now since it is evident God hath as much care of Infants now as he had then And yet generally confess'd that their Baptism signifies nothing in respect of their Estate before God helps them nothing without their personal Faith when they are grown up The Question then may be why they may not as well defer Baptism till they are capable of Faith and Profession for there will be no time lost all that time wherein they were not bettered by what they could do as Infants or Parents and Godfathers did or could âo for them Circumcision did not belong âo the Priest's Office the Parent usually circumcised Baptism belongs to the Gospel-Minister he that teacheth is to baptize Some say the Parents Faith gives a Right to Baptism Pray who can say ãâã though they may in Charity be thought âo have had that they
Reasons were fetched the âreater the Applause So the matter beââg prejudged determined and by Auââority maintained they rest contented ââith what they got especially because ââone of the Rulers are of another minde ãâã you have given your self the trouble to ââad what I have writ I crave once again ââur pardon for the occasion I have given ââd assure you I should be joyful to pleaââre you in what I may in Quality of SIR your very Humble Servant T. Minge Postscript IN your New-Years-Gift Pag. 23d and 24th You express your self thus As for the Way of Plunging it doth not look with me like an Ordinance of Christ If it were such they and we are all Transgressors We baptize the Face only they the Head and Shoulders I aver little more For no more say what you will can be called Baptism but what is the Baptizer's Work c. You say all must be baptiz'd for all must be mortified every part as all was defiled by Sin You would be angry if I should whisper you in the Ears and ask Must nothing be mortified but that above the Waste For no more do you plunge the Baptized do all the rest For shame never say any more c. All Attempts to Answer it vanish in the Empty Air. You must get some Engine or such thing to do the Work by and change your own Practice Who would change ours if there be any Consistency between your Doctrine and acting in this Case Answ I say as you say thus far That no more can be called Baptism but what is the Baptizer's Work and that therefore going down into the Water is no part of the Immersion but a way to stand fair for it I need not repeaâ what you have said or that which you say that we say but I may dare truââ to affirm that from what I have said upon solid Fundamental Grounds out of Scripture the Primitive Institution the Example of our Blessed Lord and Practiââ of the Disciples with other Reasons for Plunging it must or ought to be concluded that Baptism by Dipping or Plunging is the true and only lawful Baptism with Water and no Nonsence And further that I have sufficiently proved that thââ present Mode used commonly by Baptistâ is regular and true and fully agrees with the things thereby represented there being even by the Hands of the Administrator a total Dipping Plunging or Immersion of the Person yea every Particle from Head to Foot as may evidently appear to all that without prejudicâââ will exercise their Reason and consideâ of the Mathematical Demonstration Insomuch that there is no room for furââer Denial or Opposition without the ââenial of the proper use of their Senses âââr shame never say any more All Atââmpts ãâã answer it vanish in the Empty ââââr You see or may do that there is ãâã need of an Engine and that there is Consistency between our Doctrine and ââactice or acting in the case And if ââu see it to be so then you have bound ââur self by Promise to change your Praââce which were it done would be good ââews to hear You were pleased to say I would be ââgry with you if you should whisper ãâã in the Ear c. I tell you that âââu mist it I was not but on the ââtrary pleased at your Freedom But âââw since matters lye so fair I beg of ãâã not to be angry but pleasant if I ââuld whisper you in the Ear again for ãâã equal Ballance by way of repartee ãâã is but Talionis Lex and every body âââes not know what you and I say when we ââisper and ask whether that last Costly ââerfine Diaphanous Delicate Silk-soft dear-ââeloved and admired New-Shift esteemed ãâã duration like Asbestinum or the Incomââtable Flax Mundified and not consumed ãâã Fire is not at the very first wearing not only egregiously merdify'd and Lutose bâ thorowly outworn tatter'd torn and useâ less to be cast a way and contemned anâ that the Owner if that were all he had without a Miracle must be and continââ shiftless Answer I expect none FINIS