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A01324 A reioynder to Bristows replie in defence of Allens scroll of articles and booke of purgatorie Also the cauils of Nicholas Sander D. in Diuinitie about the supper of our Lord, and the apologie of the Church of England, touching the doctrine thereof, confuted by William Fulke, Doctor in Diuinitie, and master of Pembroke Hall in Cambridge. Seene and allowed. Fulke, William, 1538-1589. 1581 (1581) STC 11448; ESTC S112728 578,974 809

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timens_fw-la ne_fw-la scintillam_fw-la in_o animo_fw-la eius_fw-la accenderit_fw-la ac_fw-la inde_fw-la illuminaverit_fw-la &_o ad_fw-la meliora_fw-la retraxerit_fw-la magna_fw-la praecipitem_fw-la agit_fw-fr ecleritate_fw-la the_o devil_n as_o i_o think_v fear_v lest_o by_o tarry_v place_n may_v be_v give_v to_o repentance_n &_o the_o man_n think_v better_a may_v deliver_v his_o mind_n as_o it_o be_v from_o drunkenness_n for_o this_o cause_n he_o make_v haste_n &_o drive_v forward_o for_o with_o great_a celerity_n he_o drive_v even_o judas_n headlong_o when_o after_o the_o bread_n he_o have_v altogether_o prepare_v himself_o fear_v both_o the_o delay_n and_o the_o virtue_n of_o the_o blessing_n lest_o it_o have_v kindle_v a_o spark_n in_o his_o mind_n and_o thereof_o have_v lighten_v he_o and_o draw_v he_o to_o better_a thing_n this_o say_n of_o cyrillus_n do_v no_o less_o differ_v in_o sense_n and_o understanding_n from_o sander_n slanderous_a report_n of_o he_o than_o it_o do_v in_o 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