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A86506 A vindication of baptizing beleevers infants. In some animadversions upon Mr. Tombes his Exercitations about infant baptisme; as also upon his Examen, as touching the antiquities and authors by him alledged or contradicted that concern the same. Humbly submitted to the judgement of all candid Christians, / by Nathanael Homes. Published according to order. Homes, Nathanael, 1599-1678. 1646 (1646) Wing H2578; Thomason E324_1; ESTC R200604 209,591 247

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he_o tell_v they_o that_o christ_n must_v baptize_v they_o with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n the_o spiritual_a fire_n v._o 11._o obj._n if_o a_o covenant_n of_o grace_n whether_o it_o be_v not_o a_o particular_a covenant_n to_o abraham_n and_o not_o to_o be_v extend_v further_o because_o it_o be_v clothe_v with_o many_o circumstance_n which_o will_v suit_v only_o with_o abraham_n and_o fit_v he_o only_o answ_n this_o covenant_n be_v make_v with_o abraham_n as_o a_o father_n and_o express_o extend_v to_o his_o seed_n and_o as_o he_o believe_v the_o covenant_n run_v to_o he_o and_o his_o natural_a seed_n while_o infant_n i_o be_o the_o god_n of_o thou_o &_o thy_o seed_n gen._n 17_o so_o other_o gentile_n believe_v be_v abrabams_n seed_n as_o the_o apostle_n expound_v the_o intent_n and_o meaning_n of_o the_o covenant_n rom._n 4._o gal._n 3._o the_o covenant_n run_v to_o they_o and_o their_o natural_a seed_n while_o infant_n chap._n ii_o now_o we_o return_v to_o mr._n t._n his_o exercit._n where_o we_o leave_v but_o in_o the_o issue_n say_v mr._n t._n the_o argument_n from_o gen._n 17._o 7_o etc._n etc._n fall_v into_o one_o of_o these_o form_n the_o first_o thus_o to_o who_o the_o gospel_n covenant_n agree_v to_o they_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o gospel_n covenant_n agree_v also_o but_o to_o the_o infant_n of_o believer_n the_o gospel_n covenant_n agree_v therefore_o to_o they_o the_o sign_n of_o the_o gospel_n covenant_n agree_v and_o consequent_o baptism_n 2_o form_n of_o argument_n from_o gen._n 2._o exercit._fw-la sect._n 2._o 17.7_o etc._n etc._n be_v thus_o say_v mr._n t._n to_o who_o circumcision_n do_v agree_v to_o they_o baptism_n do_v agree_v but_o to_o infant_n circumcision_n do_v agree_v therefore_o also_o baptism_n 3_o form_n say_v he_o be_v
namely_o unction_n and_o to_o prove_v that_o neither_o unction_n or_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v sacrament_n which_o though_o he_o prove_v by_o this_o argument_n that_o they_o be_v only_a appendix_n of_o sacrament_n yet_o he_o do_v not_o assert_v as_o from_o himself_o or_o from_o antiquity_n that_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v to_o be_v conjoin_v with_o baptism_n but_o rather_o tell_v we_o the_o contrary_a partly_o from_o himself_o partly_o from_o those_o author_n he_o quote_v as_o that_o the_o rule_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n be_v that_o they_o give_v in_o command_n that_o man_n shall_v be_v reconcile_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n sect._n 53._o that_o reciliation_n be_v proper_a to_o repentance_n sect._n 54._o that_o though_o confirmation_n belong_v to_o the_o solemnity_n of_o baptism_n yet_o after_o a_o while_n after_o baptism_n to_o mr_n t._n his_o quotation_n of_o hieronimus_n tom._n 2._o in_o his_o diolog_n adu._n lucif_n 1._o we_o reply_v that_o if_o hieronimus_fw-la do_v confess_v imposition_n of_o hand_n on_o they_o that_o have_v be_v baptize_v though_o he_o do_v not_o allege_v all_o scripture_n for_o it_o and_o so_o not_o that_o heb._n 6.2_o the_o antiquity_n hold_v good_a that_o imposition_n of_o hand_n be_v use_v to_o be_v after_o apply_v to_o they_o that_o have_v be_v baptize_v 2._o that_o hieronimus_fw-la in_o that_o place_n quote_v other_o place_n then_o the_o act_n of_o the_o apostle_n and_o speak_v to_o our_o purpose_n thus_o orth._n neither_o can_v it_o be_v that_o he_o that_o be_v holy_a in_o baptism_n can_v be_v a_o sinner_n etc._n etc._n luc._n i_o receive_v a_o lay_v penitent_a person_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o invocation_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n know_v that_o the_o holy_a spirit_n be_v not_o confer_v by_o heretic_n orth._n see_v that_o he_o that_o be_v baptize_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a spirit_n be_v make_v the_o temple_n of_o god_n etc._n etc._n it_o appear_v that_o baptism_n be_v not_o without_o the_o holy_a spirit_n and_o to_o prove_v that_o that_o place_n act_v 19.2_o do_v suppose_v they_o have_v receive_v the_o save_a gift_n of_o the_o spirit_n in_o baptism_n he_o bring_v math._n 3._o that_o john_n baptism_n be_v a_o baptism_n of_o repentancè_fw-la into_o remission_n of_o sin_n and_o a_o little_a after_o if_o john_n do_v not_o baptize_v in_o the_o spirit_n than_o not_o into_o remission_n of_o sin_n for_o no_o man_n sin_n be_v remit_v without_o the_o spirit_n so_o hieronimus_fw-la wherefore_o he_o suppose_v imposition_n of_o hand_n may_v be_v on_o they_o that_o have_v the_o spirit_n in_o baptism_n afore_o so_o hieronimus_fw-la with_o much_o more_o which_o we_o omit_v to_o avoid_v tediousness_n thus_o far_o of_o mr_n tomb_n his_o first_o argument_n against_o infant-baptisme_n chap._n xi_o the_o second_o argument_n follow_v exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la that_o which_o agree_v not_o with_o the_o lord_n institution_n of_o baptism_n argu._n 2_o confirm_v §_o 15._o the_o argument_n from_o the_o institution_n of_o christ_n mat._n 28.19_o against_o infant-baptisme_n confirm_v that_o be_v deserve_o doubtful_a but_o the_o rite_n of_o infant-baptisme_n agree_v not_o with_o the_o lord_n institution_n of_o baptism_n ergo._n the_o major_n be_v prove_v because_o institution_n be_v the_o rule_n of_o exhibit_v worship_n to_o god_n the_o minor_a be_v prove_v from_o the_o word_n of_o institution_n mat._n 28.19_o go_v therefore_o disciple_n you_o all_o nation_n baptise_v they_o whence_o i_o gather_v thus_o that_o rite_n agree_v not_o with_o the_o lord_n institution_n of_o baptism_n according_a to_o which_o they_o be_v baptize_v who_o the_o lord_n appoint_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v but_o after_o the_o rite_n of_o infant-baptisme_n they_o be_v baptize_v who_o the_o lord_n appoint_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v ergo._n the_o major_n be_v manifest_a of_o itself_o the_o minor_a be_v prove_v the_o lord_n appoint_v not_o infant_n to_o be_v baptize_v ergo._n the_o antecedent_n be_v prove_v those_o and_o no_o other_o the_o lord_n appoint_v to_o be_v baptize_v who_o have_v be_v make_v disciple_n but_o this_o can_v be_v say_v of_o infant_n ergo._n the_o argument_n be_v confirm_v from_o john_n 4.2_o where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o jesus_n make_v more_o disciple_n then_o that_o he_o baptize_v first_o it_o be_v say_v that_o be_v make_v disciple_n then_o baptize_v some_o one_o perhaps_o will_v say_v that_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v elsewhere_o institute_v although_o not_o here_o to_o which_o be_v answer_v let_v he_o that_o can_v bring_v forth_o that_o institution_n and_o the_o doubt_n will_v be_v loose_v but_o infant_n may_v be_v disciple_n for_o they_o may_v be_v sanctify_v by_o the_o spirit_n answ_n it_o be_v true_a infant_n may_v be_v sanctify_v by_o the_o spirit_n of_o god_n purge_v by_o the_o blood_n of_o christ_n save_v by_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n my_o mind_n abhor_v from_o the_o doctrine_n of_o they_o that_o assert_v that_o infant_n not_o baptize_v necessary_o perish_v or_o be_v deprive_v of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n nor_o do_v i_o doubt_v but_o that_o the_o elect_a infant_n die_v in_o infancy_n be_v sanctify_v yea_o if_o it_o shall_v be_v make_v know_v to_o we_o that_o they_o be_v sanctify_v i_o shall_v not_o doubt_v that_o they_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v remember_v the_o say_n of_o peter_n act._n 10.47_o can_v any_o man_n forbid_v water_n that_o these_o shall_v not_o be_v baptize_v who_o have_v recein_v the_o holy_a ghost_n as_o we_o then_o you_o will_v say_v make_v disciple_n in_o that_o place_n may_v be_v so_o expound_v as_o that_o it_o may_v include_v infant_n answ_n it_o follow_v not_o but_o this_o only_o follow_v that_o in_o case_n extraordinary_a we_o may_v depart_v from_o the_o ordinary_a rule_n but_o the_o ordinary_a rule_n be_v make_v disciple_n that_o be_v by_o preach_v the_o gospel_n make_v disciple_n as_o appear_v from_o mark_n 16.15_o and_o baptize_v they_o to_o wit_n who_o you_o have_v make_v disciple_n and_o in_o the_o ordinary_a course_n of_o ministry_n we_o must_v follow_v the_o ordinary_a rule_n perhaps_o some_o one_o will_v except_v that_o christ_n teach_v that_o such_o disciple_n shall_v be_v baptize_v but_o that_o the_o speech_n be_v not_o exclusive_a refut_o but_o it_o be_v meet_v he_o remember_v who_o shall_v thus_o except_v if_o institution_n be_v the_o rule_n of_o worship_n it_o be_v necessary_a that_o he_o that_o shall_v administer_v the_o worship_n bind_v himself_o to_o the_o rule_n otherwise_o he_o will_v devise_v will-worship_n and_o arrogate_v the_o lord_n authority_n to_o himself_o sure_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o business_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n insinuate_v this_o when_o be_v about_o to_o correct_v the_o aberration_n of_o the_o corinthian_n concern_v the_o lord_n supper_n he_o bring_v forth_o these_o word_n 1_o cor._n 11.23_o for_o i_o have_v receive_v of_o the_o lord_n that_o which_o i_o also_o have_v deliver_v unto_o you_o beside_o as_o christ_n mat._n 19.4.8_o argue_v from_o the_o institution_n of_o marriage_n against_o divorce_n for_o a_o light_a cause_n and_o polygamy_n because_o it_o be_v say_v two_o not_o more_o than_o two_o shall_v be_v one_o flesh_n so_o in_o like_a manner_n it_o may_v be_v here_o argue_v christ_n say_v baptise_v they_o and_o not_o other_o therefore_o these_o and_o not_o other_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v but_o as_o for_o he_o who_o gather_v from_o this_o place_n infant_n be_v to_o be_v baptize_v because_o christ_n command_v all_o nation_n to_o be_v baptize_v very_o he_o be_v faulty_a 1._o in_o cast_v away_o that_o restriction_n that_o christ_n have_v put_v 2._o by_o determine_v that_o all_o man_n whatsoever_o be_v to_o be_v baptize_v so_o that_o this_o be_v not_o a_o privilege_n of_o believer_n and_o their_o child_n but_o common_a with_o they_o to_o all_o infidel_n and_o their_o child_n and_o in_o very_a deed_n however_o assertor_n of_o infant-baptisme_n crack_v of_o a_o privilege_n of_o believer_n and_o their_o offspring_n not_o only_o the_o usual_a practice_n of_o baptise_v any_o little_a child_n offer_v but_o also_o say_n prove_v that_o man_n have_v go_v far_o not_o only_o from_o christ_n institution_n but_o also_o from_o the_o principle_n upon_o which_o man_n at_o this_o day_n be_v busy_a to_o establish_v infant-baptisme_n i_o shall_v prove_v this_o by_o some_o instance_n in_o the_o 59_o epistle_n of_o cyprian_a to_o fidus_n from_o which_o augustine_n be_v wont_v in_o his_o disputations-against_a the_o pelagian_o to_o take_v his_o proof_n for_o infant-baptisme_n and_o to_o which_o writer_n attribute_v much_o although_o that_o i_o may_v say_v no_o worse_o without_o cause_n this_o reason_n be_v put_v why_o it_o be_v not_o assent_v to_o biship_n fidus_n who_o think_v that_o a_o infant_n be_v not_o to_o be_v baptize_v afore_o the_o eight_o day_n according_a to_o the_o law_n of_o ancient_a circumcision_n we_o
in_o baptise_v people_n of_o ripe_a year_n de_fw-la facto_fw-la in_o fact_n confession_n of_o sin_n etc._n etc._n do_v precede_v and_o forego_v but_o neither_o john_n baptist_n nor_o the_o apostle_n make_v any_o such_o express_a rule_n that_o the_o jure_v of_o equity_n none_o shall_v be_v baptize_v by_o they_o but_o those_o that_o can_v make_v confession_n of_o sin_n or_o profession_n of_o faith_n nor_o do_v all_o the_o scripture_n bring_v by_o mr._n t._n prove_v any_o such_o rule_n mr._n t._n himself_o intimated_o confess_v that_o john_n the_o baptist_n do_v not_o make_v a_o rule_n for_o confession_n but_o only_o in_o practice_v those_o jew_n of_o ripe_a year_n that_o john_n baptist_n do_v baptize_v do_v first_o confess_v their_o sin_n and_o that_o act._n 2.39_o act._n 16._o etc._n etc._n have_v be_v already_o discuss_v that_o they_o show_v child_n be_v baptize_v who_o can_v not_o make_v confession_n or_o profession_n but_o mr._n t._n object_n act._n 8.37_o if_o thou_o believe_v with_o thy_o whole_a heart_n thou_o may_v be_v baptize_v where_o the_o apostle_n imply_v in_o his_o speech_n to_o the_o eunuch_n that_o defect_n of_o faith_n be_v a_o impediment_n of_o baptism_n we_o answer_v mr._n t._n afore_o confess_v p._n 24._o infant_n may_v be_v sanctify_v if_o therefore_o he_o mean_v the_o defect_n of_o manifestation_n of_o faith_n we_o answer_v it_o be_v true_a in_o man_n of_o ripe_a year_n for_o there_o it_o be_v know_v that_o they_o be_v worse_o than_o infant_n so_o be_v it_o in_o circumcision_n if_o ishmael_n be_v a_o know_a scoffer_n he_o be_v cast_v out_o and_o so_o his_o child_n be_v not_o circumcise_v unless_o perhaps_o after_o at_o year_n they_o give_v good_a testimony_n of_o their_o due_a subjection_n to_o the_o law_n so_o that_o to_o the_o whole_a argumentation_n we_o say_v that_o here_o be_v mention_n of_o the_o manner_n of_o the_o practice_n of_o that_o first_o administration_n of_o baptism_n to_o the_o parent_n with_o confession_n and_o profession_n by_o many_o example_n and_o intimation_n but_o not_o a_o rule_n set_v down_o that_o thus_o it_o must_v be_v in_o the_o succession_n of_o believer_n child_n we_o listen_v not_o to_o speak_v any_o thing_n more_o of_o this_o major_a proposition_n and_o the_o proof_n only_o wonder_v that_o among_o the_o crowd_n of_o scripture_n mr._n t._n quote_v he_o will_v thrust_v in_o that_o of_o act._n 19.5_o for_o baptism_n of_o water_n which_o be_v only_o a_o confer_v of_o the_o miraculary_a gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n as_o many_o argument_n from_o the_o place_n can_v evince_v but_o mr._n t._n object_n this_o for_o a_o confirmation_n of_o his_o argument_n that_o if_o it_o be_v right_o argue_v from_o 1_o cor._n 11.28_o that_o the_o lord_n supper_n be_v not_o to_o be_v grant_v to_o infant_n because_o self-examination_n be_v pre-required_n by_o like_a reason_n we_o may_v say_v baptism_n be_v not_o yield_v to_o infant_n because_o repentance_n and_o faith_n be_v pre-required_n act._n 2.38_o act._n 8.37_o and_o that_o of_o those_o that_o descend_v from_o abraham_n and_o to_o who_o the_o promise_n be_v beside_o what_o we_o say_v afore_o we_o answer_v to_o this_o argument_n great_a in_o show_n that_o there_o be_v not_o the_o like_a reason_n between_o those_o place_n for_o baptism_n and_o that_o for_o the_o lord_n supper_n for_o 1._o that_o of_o the_o lord_n supper_n speak_v of_o every_o communicant_a viritim_fw-la as_o count_v one_o after_o another_o let_v the_o party_n whosoever_o it_o be_v enter_v into_o self-examination_n before_o eat_v but_o that_o act._n 2.38_o speak_v in_o the_o gub_n or_o general_a to_o the_o parent_n and_o that_o act._n 8.37_o be_v speak_v to_o one_o only_a man_n and_o in_o that_o phrase_n that_o can_v be_v find_v elsewhere_o on_o that_o occasion_n 2._o there_o be_v no_o intimation_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n of_o child_n admit_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n but_o in_o that_o act._n 2._o present_o in_o the_o next_o verse_n v._o 39_o there_o be_v a_o intimation_n of_o their_o infant_n admit_v to_o baptism_n as_o before_o we_o have_v evince_v that_o clause_n of_o descend_v from_o abraham_n and_o the_o belong_v of_o the_o promise_n be_v of_o no_o weight_n in_o this_o argument_n for_o 1_o the_o parent_n by_o put_v to_o death_n christ_n have_v make_v themselves_o in_o wickedness_n worse_o than_o gentile_n 2_o that_o confession_n and_o profession_n be_v express_o call_v for_o only_o from_o they_o that_o be_v so_o apparent_o wicked_a 3_o that_o if_o they_o do_v come_v in_o by_o repentance_n the_o promise_n say_v the_o apostle_n present_o run_v to_o their_o child_n chap._n xiii_o the_o four_o argument_n say_v mr._n t._n be_v take_v from_o the_o next_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n apostle_n exercit._fw-la sect._n 17._o the_o 4._o argument_n against_o infant_n baptism_n from_o the_o practice_n in_o the_o next_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n that_o tenet_n and_o practice_n be_v doubtful_a of_o which_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o it_o be_v in_o force_n or_o use_v in_o the_o next_o age_n after_o the_o apostle_n but_o it_o can_v be_v prove_v that_o the_o tenet_n or_o practice_n of_o infant-baptisme_n be_v in_o force_n or_o use_v in_o the_o age_n next_o after_o the_o apostle_n ergo._n the_o major_n be_v of_o itself_o manifest_a the_o minor_a be_v prove_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o lodovicus_n vives_z above-recited_n to_o which_o vossius_fw-la in_o the_o sibus_fw-la historico-theologicis_a of_o infant-baptisme_n join_v the_o testimony_n of_o walafridus_n strabo_n and_o by_o the_o examine_n of_o place_n bring_v to_o that_o purpose_n and_o by_o the_o continuation_n of_o question_n propound_v to_o the_o baptize_v in_o age_n follow_v and_o other_o token_n from_o council_n and_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n which_o in_o historical_a business_n be_v wont_a to_o beget_v credit_n the_o word_n of_o walafridus_n strabo_n who_o live_v about_o the_o year_n 840._o in_o his_o book_n derebus_n ecclesiasticis_fw-la chap._n 26._o be_v these_o we_o be_v also_o to_o note_n that_o in_o the_o first_o time_n the_o grace_n of_o baptism_n be_v wont_v only_o to_o be_v give_v to_o they_o who_o by_o integrity_n both_o of_o body_n and_o mind_n be_v already_o come_v to_o this_o that_o they_o can_v know_v and_o understand_v what_o profit_n be_v to_o be_v obtain_v in_o baptism_n what_o be_v to_o be_v confess_v and_o believe_v what_o last_o be_v to_o be_v observe_v of_o they_o that_o be_v bear_v again_o in_o christ_n thus_o far_o mr._n t._n and_o his_o quotation_n of_o walafridus_n 1._o to_o mr._n t._n his_o major_n we_o say_v animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la that_o it_o be_v not_o of_o itself_o manifest_a for_o what_o if_o we_o can_v produce_v any_o record_n of_o antiquity_n for_o the_o use_n and_o practice_v of_o many_o thing_n in_o the_o age_n next_o to_o the_o apostle_n be_v they_o therefore_o doubtful_a when_o as_o we_o have_v the_o word_n of_o god_n for_o they_o therefore_o the_o mere_a fail_v of_o the_o vote_n of_o humane_a writer_n do_v not_o make_v a_o thing_n doubtful_a though_o the_o papist_n urge_v we_o with_o the_o like_a argument_n that_o the_o protestant_a church_n be_v not_o true_a because_o we_o can_v produce_v history_n etc._n etc._n to_o show_v their_o succession_n in_o all_o age_n if_o we_o fail_v in_o record_n of_o antiquity_n we_o may_v thank_v the_o papist_n chief_o who_o as_o we_o may_v say_v martyr_v by_o fire_n and_o otherwise_o as_o well_o good_a book_n as_o godly_a man_n and_o yet_o the_o truth_n according_a to_o scripture_n stand_v where_o it_o do_v to_o mr._n t._n his_o minor_a we_o say_v in_o general_a 1._o that_o mr._n t._n tell_v we_o beside_o of_o lodovicus_n vives_z and_o wal._n strabo_n of_o place_n bring_v to_o that_o purpose_n of_o the_o continuation_n of_o question_n propound_v to_o the_o baptize_v in_o age_n follow_v of_o other_o token_n from_o council_n and_o of_o ecclesiastical_a writer_n but_o quote_v they_o not_o which_o be_v not_o the_o way_n to_o beget_v credit_n in_o the_o judicious_a reader_n it_o be_v too_o much_o to_o believe_v every_o author_n upon_o his_o bare_a word_n without_o other_o circumstance_n and_o therefore_o by_o much_o more_o too_o much_o to_o believe_v author_n not_o produce_v but_o only_o intimate_v by_o mr._n t._n 2._o mr._n tomb_n give_v we_o in_o two_o late-man_n in_o comparison_n of_o the_o stream_n of_o ancient_a antiquity_n which_o be_v contrary_a to_o those_o two_o 3._o if_o those_o two_o have_v be_v a_o considerable_a number_n or_o have_v produce_v to_o we_o any_o considerable_a reason_n or_o quotation_n of_o antiquity_n high_o than_o themselves_o or_o any_o fair_a probability_n or_o circumstance_n how_o they_o gather_v it_o they_o will_v soon_o have_v beget_v credit_n then_o as_o they_o be_v now_o propose_v in_o particular_a first_o to_o ludovicus_n vives_z we_o answer_v
signify_v or_o imply_v baptism_n so_o the_o scripture_n so_o irenaeus_n and_o the_o father_n mean_v by_o bornagain_a new_a bear_v or_o regenerate_v though_o mr._n t._n deny_v it_o scripture_n the_o first_o scripture_n be_v in_o joh._n 3.5_o except_o a_o man_n be_v bear_v again_o of_o water_n and_o the_o spirit_n where_o the_o spirit_n signify_v the_o inward_a work_n accompany_v or_o follow_v where_o god_n convert_v the_o outward_a sign_n seal_n and_o conveyance_n of_o baptism_n as_o we_o have_v before_o discuss_v this_o place_n where_o we_o have_v give_v you_o the_o general_a consent_n of_o orthodox_n author_n and_o some_o reason_n that_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n be_v here_o understand_v we_o now_o add_v first_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n must_v be_v here_o mean_v because_o of_o the_o order_n water_n be_v put_v first_o the_o spirit_n next_o now_o where_o a_o metaphorical_a epithet_n or_o word_n be_v put_v to_o set_v forth_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o spirit_n the_o spirit_n be_v put_v first_o and_o the_o metaphorical_a term_n or_o word_n after_o matth._n 3._o baptise_a with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n and_o fire_n that_o be_v with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n which_o be_v like_o fire_n second_o christ_n be_v speak_v to_o nicodemus_n one_o of_o the_o pharisee_n who_o do_v put_v much_o in_o outward_a legal_a and_o ceremonious_a wash_n mark_v 7.1_o 2_o etc._n etc._n therefore_o doubtless_o christ_n will_v apply_v his_o speech_n suitable_a to_o the_o condition_n of_o nicodemus_n to_o take_v he_o off_o that_o wash_n by_o propound_v to_o he_o the_o gospel_n wash_v of_o baptism_n already_o begin_v by_o john_n baptist_n on_o which_o usual_o follow_v a_o inward_a effectual_a work_n of_o wash_v by_o the_o spirit_n both_o these_o reason_n be_v hint_v by_o beza_n who_o by_o all_o mean_n will_v rather_o have_v a_o external_a wash_n here_o mean_v beside_o the_o inward_a of_o the_o spirit_n and_o prevent_v a_o objection_n that_o grace_n be_v not_o here_o tie_v to_o the_o sacrament_n of_o baptism_n the_o peculiar_a sacrament_n of_o regeneration_n say_v he_o no_o more_o than_o it_o be_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n joh._n 6.53_o beside_o say_v he_o there_o be_v mention_v after_o of_o the_o spirit_n without_o water_n three_o regeneration_n be_v attribute_v to_o the_o outward_a and_o more_o common_a mean_n of_o preach_v the_o word_n 1_o pet._n 1.23_o why_o not_o therefore_o to_o baptism_n the_o peculiar_a sacrament_n of_o regeneration_n and_o so_o nicodemus_n have_v here_o for_o the_o business_n in_o hand_n which_o be_v his_o conversion_n all_o three_o mean_n complete_o represent_v to_o he_o christ_n word_n baptism_n and_o the_o holy_a spirit_n we_o listen_v not_o to_o abound_v in_o proof_n of_o a_o thing_n so_o plain_a and_o common_o receive_v if_o one_o or_o two_o think_v otherwise_o it_o be_v not_o of_o weight_n to_o say_v so_o without_o proof_n nor_o do_v i_o know_v any_o reason_n why_o any_o shall_v dissent_v unless_o for_o a_o dream_n of_o tie_v grace_n to_o sacrament_n which_o beza_n and_o other_o excellent_o take_v off_o or_o for_o fear_n of_o man_n private_a interest_n in_o a_o argument_n which_o be_v not_o considerable_a the_o second_o scripture_n be_v tit._n 3.5_o according_a to_o his_o mercy_n he_o save_v we_o by_o the_o wash_n of_o regeneration_n and_o renew_v of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n where_o wash_v according_a to_o divers_a learned_a orthodox_n author_n signify_v or_o imply_v baptism_n the_o reason_n that_o evince_v our_o consent_n be_v 1._o that_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o wash_v signify_v not_o so_o much_o the_o act_n of_o bare_a wash_n as_o the_o place_n where_o the_o water_n be_v and_o the_o action_n be_v do_v for_o it_o signify_v a_o bath_n or_o laver_v of_o water_n and_o therefore_o can_v be_v so_o fit_o apply_v to_o the_o inward_a wash_n of_o the_o spirit_n as_o to_o outward_a baptism_n 2_o the_o spiritual_a work_n of_o the_o spirit_n follow_v in_o the_o next_o clause_n the_o make_n of_o we_o new_a by_o the_o spirit_n 3_o it_o be_v usual_a with_o the_o holy_a ghost_n to_o call_v the_o whole_a work_n by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o outward_a sign_n of_o baptism_n gal._n 3.27_o col._n 2.12_o even_o as_o circumcision_n be_v call_v the_o covenant_n gen._n 17._o though_o but_o the_o sign_n or_o seal_n of_o the_o covenant_n thus_o of_o the_o scripture_n that_o by_o the_o word_n bear_v again_o new_o bear_v or_o the_o like_a be_v signify_v or_o employ_v baptism_n suitable_o to_o scripture_n second_o irenaeus_n take_v his_o own_o word_n renascuntur_fw-la that_o be_v bear_v again_o or_o new_o bear_v to_o signify_v baptism_n compare_v that_o place_n of_o irenaeus_n lib._n 1._o cap._n 18._o where_n speak_v of_o the_o corruption_n by_o heretic_n touch_v redemption_n and_o baptism_n etc._n etc._n he_o have_v these_o word_n in_o the_o begin_n of_o the_o chapter_n this_o kind_n that_o be_v of_o sect_n be_v send_v by_o satan_n for_o the_o deny_v of_o the_o baptism_n of_o regeneration_n or_o new_a birth_n towards_o or_o according_a to_o god_n and_o for_o the_o destruction_n of_o the_o whole_a faith_n this_o place_n clear_v the_o thing_n and_o mr._n t._n his_o exception_n which_o be_v 1_o possible_o this_o may_v not_o be_v irenaeus_n his_o word_n 2_o that_o irenaeus_n be_v corrupt_v by_o the_o latin_a translation_n we_o want_v the_o greek_a copy_n to_o which_o we_o answer_v that_o this_o quotation_n out_o of_o the_o first_o book_n and_o 18._o chap._n of_o irenaeus_n take_v away_o both_o objection_n for_o mr._n t._n his_o rivet_n confess_v that_o the_o first_o 27._o chapter_n of_o the_o first_o book_n of_o irenaeus_n be_v insert_v in_o epiphanius_n his_o panarium_n which_o we_o have_v in_o greek_a and_o so_o much_o of_o irenaeus_n entire_o be_v to_o be_v have_v in_o greek_a in_o irenaeus_n his_o work_n and_o according_o epiphanius_n say_v that_o that_o circumcision_n continue_v serve_v to_o the_o time_n till_o the_o great_a circumcision_n come_v which_o be_v the_o laver_n of_o regeneration_n so_o epiphan_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 28._o we_o have_v not_o time_n to_o seek_v more_o though_o he_o speak_v often_o of_o baptism_n sometime_o call_v it_o the_o great_a circumcision_n sometime_o only_o the_o laver_n etc._n etc._n but_o mr._n t._n object_n 4._o mr._n t._n examen_fw-la sect._n 4._o that_o voss_n thes_n theolog._n de_fw-fr paedobapt_n intimate_v that_o the_o proper_a acception_n of_o renascuntur_fw-la that_o be_v bear_v again_o or_o newborn_a be_v to_o signify_v sanctification_n we_o answer_v vossius_fw-la do_v not_o speak_v so_o much_o for_o mr._n t._n but_o against_o he_o in_o this_o point_n animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la as_o we_o conceive_v whether_o we_o conceive_v aright_o let_v the_o reader_n judge_n vossius_fw-la his_o word_n be_v these_o we_o can_v prove_v by_o apparent_a testimony_n of_o they_o that_o live_v before_o the_o pelagian_a heresy_n that_o infant_n be_v baptize_v such_o a_o testimony_n be_v irenaeus_n lib._n 2._o cap._n 39_o where_o he_o say_v christ_n come_v to_o save_v all_o by_o himself_o all_o i_o say_v who_o by_o he_o be_v bornagain_a or_o newborn_a by_o he_o towards_o god_n infant_n and_o little_a one_o etc._n etc._n where_o by_o the_o word_n bear_v again_o or_o new-birth_n be_v set_v forth_o baptism_n according_a to_o the_o common_a form_n of_o speech_n of_o the_o ancient_n although_o if_o we_o take_v the_o word_n bornagain_a curious_o yet_o in_o as_o much_o as_o irenaeus_n say_v regeneration_n be_v in_o infant_n it_o sufficient_o refute_v the_o opinion_n of_o they_o who_o endeavour_n by_o this_o argument_n to_o prove_v that_o because_o regeneration_n as_o they_o think_v may_v not_o be_v in_o infant_n that_o therefore_o they_o may_v not_o be_v sign_v with_o the_o outward_a sign_n so_o vossius_fw-la but_o mr._n t._n object_n again_o 4._o m._n t._n exam_n sect._n 4._o that_o irenaeus_n his_o scope_n be_v to_o confute_v the_o gnostic_n that_o hold_v christ_n do_v not_o exceed_v 31._o year_n of_o age_n against_o who_o irenaeus_n allege_v that_o christ_n live_v in_o every_o age_n that_o by_o his_o age_n and_o example_n he_o may_v sanctify_v every_o age_n we_o answer_v animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la but_o irenaeus_n lay_v the_o foundation_n of_o his_o sanctify_v all_o sort_n of_o age_n in_o this_o that_o they_o be_v newborn_a by_o christ_n to_o godward_o both_o infant_n and_o little_a one_o and_o then_o follow_v he_o be_v make_v a_o infant_n to_o infant_n to_o sanctify_v they_o have_v before_o regenerate_v they_o whereof_o what_o sign_n be_v there_o to_o we_o but_o god_n institution_n and_o act_n that_o infant_n shall_v have_v the_o first_o seal_n but_o mr._n t._n yet_o further_a object_n 4._o mr_n t._n exam_n sect._n 4._o that_o irenaeus_n speak_v not_o of_o baptism_n because_o he_o say_v bear_v again_o by_o he_o that_o be_v by_o christ_n we_o answer_v animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la that_o mr
t._n well_o know_v subordinate_a thing_n be_v not_o contrary_a christ_n regenerate_v therefore_o do_v he_o not_o do_v it_o by_o his_o ordinance_n word_n baptism_n &_o c_o we_o have_v hear_v afore_o that_o though_o christ_n be_v the_o author_n of_o our_o salvation_n yet_o it_o be_v say_v we_o be_v bear_v again_o by_o water_n and_o the_o spirit_n and_o that_o for_o the_o conjunction_n of_o the_o sign_n and_o thing_n signify_v the_o thing_n signify_v be_v call_v by_o the_o name_n of_o the_o sign_n we_o add_v ephes_n 5.26.1_o pet._n 1.23_o where_o it_o be_v say_v that_o we_o be_v sanctify_v by_o the_o wash_n of_o water_n by_o the_o word_n and_o we_o be_v bear_v again_o by_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o yet_o we_o know_v christ_n by_o his_o spirit_n be_v the_o author_n of_o these_o 3_o other_o of_o the_o approve_a ancient_n as_o commentator_n on_o irenaeus_n call_v baptism_n by_o the_o name_n of_o regeneration_n nazianzen_n call_v baptism_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d the_o laver_n of_o regeneration_n or_o of_o the_o new-birth_n nazianz._n orat._n 402._o in_o sanct._n bapt._n augustine_n say_v as_o by_o the_o first_o man_n man_n be_v bear_v in_o sin_n and_o death_n so_o by_o christ_n renascuntur_fw-la they_o be_v bear_v again_o in_o or_o into_o righteousness_n and_o eternal_a life_n in_o or_o through_o baptism_n aug._n lib._n de_fw-fr bapt._n &_o hab_o &_o cons_n ambrose_n say_v god_n the_o omnipotent_a father_n who_o have_v regenerate_v thou_o of_o water_n and_o the_o holy_a spirit_n ambros_n de_fw-fr sacram._n hieronimus_fw-la the_o bloody_a body_n of_o infant_n be_v wash_v as_o soon_o as_o they_o be_v bear_v so_o the_o spiritual_a generation_n stand_v in_o need_n of_o the_o save_a laver_n hieron_n lib._n 4._o ezek._n ca._n 16._o more_o may_v be_v allege_v but_o these_o enough_o to_o clear_v the_o business_n in_o hand_n that_o irenaeus_n mean_v by_o be_v bornagain_a or_o regenerate_v baptism_n but_o mr._n t._n object_n 7._o mr._n t._n examen_fw-la sect._n 4._o p._n 7._o that_o irenaeus_n say_v christ_n be_v fifty_o year_n old_a a●_n he_o have_v receive_v it_o from_o those_o that_o converse_v with_o john_n the_o apostle_n and_o thereby_o mr._n tomb_n will_v blemish_v irenaeus_n his_o testimony_n we_o answer_v animad_fw-la animad_fw-la first_o man_n have_v their_o mistake_n else_o they_o be_v not_o man_n but_o as_o angel_n second_o mr._n t._n refer_v we_o to_o far_o worse_a author_n full_a of_o superstition_n in_o scham_n before_o and_o his_o ludovicus_n vives_z and_o his_o walafridus_n we_o and_o vossius_fw-la too_o have_v note_v before_o for_o their_o gross_a expression_n and_o mistake_n three_o which_o be_v main_o to_o the_o point_n irenaeus_n say_v infant_n may_v be_v bear_v again_o that_o be_v baptize_v as_o from_o himself_o though_o he_o report_v the_o whole_a age_n of_o christ_n from_o other_o who_o if_o they_o write_v his_o age_n by_o cipher_n in_o aftertime_n fifty_o may_v easy_o be_v mistake_v for_o thirty_o the_o three_o and_o last_o author_n we_o will_v urge_v from_o this_o first_o age_n tertullian_n tertullian_n or_o first_o hundred_o year_n or_o century_n next_o follow_v the_o apostle_n time_n be_v tertullian_n who_o helvicus_n put_v in_o the_o latter_a end_n of_o the_o age_n afore_o say_v namely_o in_o the_o year_n after_o christ_n 195._o which_o be_v as_o about_o the_o 95_o year_n after_o the_o death_n of_o john_n the_o evangelist_n but_o the_o same_o helvicus_n say_v this_o of_o he_o put_v in_o that_o year_n out_o of_o eusebius_n and_o hieron_n that_o he_o put_v forth_o his_o book_n of_o prescription_n and_o that_o he_o be_v the_o three_o latin_a writer_n and_o bucholcerus_n mention_n he_o as_o famous_a about_o the_o year_n after_o christ_n 208_o that_o be_v 108._o after_o st._n john_n that_o be_v but_o about_o thirteen_o year_n after_o the_o time_n set_v down_o by_o helvicus_n for_o he_o say_v that_o about_o that_o time_n catalogo_fw-la hieron_n in_o catalogo_fw-la cyprian_n as_o hieron_n testify_v do_v 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in_o we_o be_v transfuse_v from_o adam_n whence_o david_n say_v he_o be_v bear_v in_o iniquity_n and_o conceive_v in_o sin_n psal_n 51._o not_o accuse_v his_o mother_n but_o intimate_v his_o sinfulness_n which_o run_v down_o from_o his_o progenitor_n and_o now_o the_o lawmaker_n command_v he_o out_o of_o who_o proceed_v the_o seed_n of_o copulation_n that_o be_v ●e_z that_o have_v effuse_v his_o seed_n for_o procreation_n of_o child_n yea_o also_o the_o woman_n that_o have_v receive_v it_o to_o wash_v the_o body_n because_o she_o have_v receive_v it_o by_o which_o be_v describe_v this_o whole_a temple_n of_o we_o that_o be_v the_o whole_a man_n consist_v of_o soul_n and_o body_n in_o that_o adam_n be_v make_v filthy_a by_o disobedience_n he_o make_v his_o seed_n to_o be_v filthy_a and_o so_o necessary_o the_o body_n to_o be_v filthy_a which_o be_v of_o the_o seed_n in_o which_o he_o be_v unclean_a until_o the_o even_o that_o be_v the_o end_n of_o the_o time_n wherein_o christ_n come_v 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it_o it_o be_v that_o the_o seed_n be_v no_o more_o unclean_a though_o after_o to_o be_v further_o cleanse_v so_o gent._n herv_z with_o much_o more_o thus_o you_o have_v a_o touch_n out_o of_o one_o of_o mr._n t._n his_o five_o gr._n author_n which_o he_o say_v have_v nothing_o of_o infant-baptisme_n we_o will_v give_v you_o another_o touch_n out_o of_o another_o of_o his_o silent_a author_n as_o mr._n t._n intimate_v and_o so_o dismiss_v the_o rest_n as_o not_o have_v all_o the_o author_n nor_o time_n to_o go_v look_n after_o they_o 52._o epiphanius_n contra_fw-la haeres_fw-la 30._o p._n 52._o epiphanius_n in_o his_o second_o book_n 2._o tom._n contr_n haeres_fw-la speak_v before_o of_o the_o circumcision_n of_o christ_n that_o he_o be_v circumcise_v to_o dissolve_v or_o abrogate_v that_o circumcision_n to_o bring_v in_o a_o great_a and_o that_o the_o circumcision_n enjoin_v abraham_n be_v not_o perfect_a but_o a_o sign_n of_o grace_n give_v and_o for_o the_o instruction_n of_o they_o in_o future_a time_n and_o thence_o wish_v ebion_n not_o to_o imitate_v christ_n in_o circumcision_n of_o himself_o or_o other_o at_o last_o he_o speak_v in_o these_o very_a word_n for_o the_o lord_n say_v epiphanius_n have_v remove_v the_o time_n of_o this_o circumcision_n for_o he_o come_v and_o fulfil_v it_o have_v give_v the_o perfect_a circumcision_n of_o his_o mystery_n and_o that_o not_o in_o one_o member_n only_o but_o in_o the_o whole_a body_n seal_v and_o circumcise_v from_o sin_n and_o save_v not_o one_o only_a part_n of_o the_o people_n that_o be_v man_n only_o but_o also_o all_o the_o people_n of_o christian_n indeed_o sign_v or_o seal_v man_n and_o woman_n and_o liberal_o for_o the_o inheritance_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n and_o not_o in_o exhibit_v the_o seal_n defective_o to_o one_o rank_n or_o state_n virorum_fw-la of_o man_n in_o the_o time_n of_o their_o imbecility_n but_o to_o all_o the_o people_n etc._n etc._n thus_o far_o epiphanius_n write_v there_o of_o infant-baptisme_n and_o i_o be_o confident_a more_o may_v be_v find_v in_o other_o place_n touch_v it_o have_v we_o time_n to_o seek_v though_o epiphanius_n say_v nothing_o of_o it_o as_o mr._n t._n weak_o object_n in_o lib._n 2._o haeres_fw-la 46._o vel_fw-la 47._o in_o his_o disputation_n for_o infant_n inherit_v heaven_n against_o the_o hieracite_n we_o be_v not_o to_o teach_v other_o learned_a man_n what_o to_o speak_v nor_o when_o to_o speak_v nor_o to_o say_v they_o speak_v not_o at_o all_o of_o such_o a_o point_n if_o they_o do_v not_o speak_v where_o and_o when_o we_o expect_v 2._o mr._n t._n object_n against_o the_o greek_a father_n allege_v by_o we_o 6._o examen_fw-la sect._n 6._o and_o in_o they_o against_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o greek_a church_n touch_v infant-baptisme_n thus_o but_o beside_o the_o continuance_n of_o the_o question_n to_o baptize_v person_n and_o answer_v
by_o they_o in_o many_o author_n mention_v this_o be_v to_o i_o and_o it_o seem_v to_o hugo_n grotius_n annot_n in_o matth._n 19.14_o no_o small_a evidence_n that_o baptism_n of_o infant_n many_o hundred_o year_n be_v not_o ordinary_a in_o the_o greek_a church_n grotius_n add_v that_o the_o canon_n of_o the_o synod_n of_o neo-caesarea_n in_o the_o year_n 313._o determine_v that_o a_o woman_n with_o child_n may_v be_v baptize_v because_o the_o baptism_n reach_v not_o to_o the_o fruit_n of_o her_o womb_n because_o in_o the_o confession_n make_v in_o baptism_n each_o once_o free_a choice_n be_v show_v we_o answer_v first_o that_o this_o seem_v not_o otherwise_o to_o i_o but_z as_o the_o confession_n of_o sin_n animadvers_fw-la animadvers_fw-la and_o profession_n of_o faith_n in_o the_o new_a testament_n by_o they_o that_o at_o the_o first_o institution_n of_o baptism_n be_v baptize_v at_o ripe_a year_n do_v not_o imply_v but_o that_o baptism_n descend_v to_o their_o child_n while_o child_n yea_o so_o much_o the_o rather_o because_o the_o parent_n be_v baptize_v the_o promise_n then_o be_v actual_o instate_v on_o they_o 2._o act_n 2._o the_o promise_n to_o you_o and_o to_o your_o child_n even_o just_a so_o may_v we_o say_v of_o those_o question_n put_v to_o the_o baptize_v and_o answer_v by_o they_o in_o the_o greek_a church_n for_o though_o be_v gentile_n the_o parent_n at_o first_o be_v to_o make_v confession_n as_o a_o token_n of_o their_o conversion_n from_o hethenisme_n before_o their_o baptism_n yet_o this_o do_v not_o in_o the_o least_o argue_v that_o their_o child_n must_v be_v able_a to_o make_v confession_n before_o they_o be_v baptize_v no_o more_o than_o the_o circumcision_n of_o abraham_n and_o the_o stranger_n be_v buy_v with_o money_n when_o they_o be_v believer_n of_o ripe_a year_n do_v infer_v that_o all_o christ_n child_n from_o age_n to_o age_n shall_v not_o be_v circumcise_v till_o they_o be_v so_o too_o 2._o touch_v grotius_n we_o answer_v four_o thing_n 1._o that_o he_o in_o discuss_v the_o point_n on_o matth._n 19.14_o touch_v infant-baptisme_n allege_v diverse_a thing_n to_o show_v that_o some_o in_o the_o greek_a church_n in_o several_a age_n do_v not_o baptize_v their_o infant_n but_o have_v no_o such_o passage_n as_o that_o infant-baptisme_n be_v not_o ordinary_a in_o the_o greek_a church_n 2._o in_o all_o he_o allege_v touch_v this_o he_o say_v not_o to_o the_o contraty_n but_o that_o the_o non-baptizing_a of_o some_o infant_n may_v be_v because_o their_o greek_a parent_n be_v not_o convert_v from_o gentilism_n 3._o for_o that_o neocaesarian_a synod_n another_o synod_n of_o which_o there_o be_v many_o edition_n vary_v one_o from_o another_o the_o cause_n and_o intent_n of_o it_o in_o part_n at_o least_o may_v be_v as_o be_v intimate_v afore_o out_o of_o clem._n alexand._n a_o greek_a who_o flourish_v long_o before_o the_o neocaesarian_a synod_n and_o therefore_o likely_a this_o synod_n will_v have_v respect_n to_o he_o tertul_n he_o and_o to_o tertullian_n of_o the_o same_o time_n with_o clem._n who_o have_v to_o the_o same_o effect_n as_o clem._n tertulli_n lib._n de_fw-fr anima_fw-la chap._n 39_o 40._o of_o which_o afore_o chap._n 13._o of_o animad_fw-la vid._n in_o mark_fw-mi tertul_n to_o wit_n that_o though_o by_o the_o baptismal_a wash_n of_o the_o parent_n by_o virtue_n of_o the_o promise_n i_o be_o the_o god_n of_o thou_o and_o thy_o seed_n and_o the_o promise_n be_v to_o you_o and_o to_o your_o child_n the_o seed_n of_o that_o parent_n be_v account_v holy_a yet_o so_o as_o not_o to_o anticipate_v and_o prevent_v the_o baptise_v of_o that_o seed_n when_o it_o be_v bear_v 4._o grotius_n himself_o intimated_o confess_v that_o interpreter_n do_v take_v the_o word_n of_o that_o synod_n otherwise_o then_o to_o intend_v against_o infant-baptisme_n 5._o for_o grotius_n his_o own_o opinion_n it_o be_v clear_a and_o full_a for_o infant-baptisme_n upon_o that_o 19_o of_o matth._n ver_fw-la 14._o who_o allege_v and_o assert_n these_o particular_n 1._o that_o it_o be_v grateful_a to_o christ_n that_o little_a child_n shall_v be_v bring_v to_o he_o as_o the_o design_v once_o of_o holiness_n and_o so_o of_o salvation_n according_a to_o tertullia_n expression_n 2._o that_o according_a to_o irenaeus_n christ_n pass_v through_o every_o age_n he_o become_v a_o infant_n to_o sanctify_v infant_n a_o little_a child_n to_o sanctify_v they_o of_o that_o age_n etc._n etc._n 3._o that_o upon_o this_o text_n of_o christ_n receive_v little_a one_o etc._n etc._n among_o other_o ground_n do_v say_v grotius_n lean_v the_o practice_n of_o baptise_v little_o one_o and_o infant_n 4._o that_o in_o augustine_n time_n say_v he_o it_o be_v a_o common_a neceive_v practice_n to_o baptize_v infant_n as_o be_v clear_a by_o this_o that_o when_o the_o pelagian_o hold_v some_o how_o against_o infant-baptisme_n be_v press_v with_o this_o argument_n of_o the_o practice_n of_o all_o church_n in_o baptise_v infant_n they_o dare_v not_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v true_a 5._o that_o by_o hierom_n and_o augustine_n quotation_n of_o cyprian_n epistle_n to_o fidus_n it_o be_v clear_a say_v grotius_n that_o it_o be_v not_o doubt_v in_o cyprian_n time_n whether_o infant_n may_v be_v baptize_v but_o only_o some_o stuck_n at_o this_o whether_o they_o may_v be_v baptize_v afore_o they_o be_v eight_o day_n old_a and_o it_o be_v determine_v in_o a_o council_n then_o whereof_o cyprian_n be_v one_o that_o baptism_n shall_v not_o be_v deny_v to_o infant_n new_o bear_v if_o they_o be_v offer_v thereunto_o 6._o grotius_n say_v that_o in_o a_o ancient_a book_n entitle_v the_o constitution_n of_o clement_n it_o be_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n baptise_v your_o infant_n also_o then_o train_v they_o up_o in_o the_o instruction_n and_o nurture_n of_o the_o lord_n 7._o grotius_n have_v quote_v something_n out_o of_o that_o synod_n of_o balsamo_n and_o zonanas_n walafridus_n strabo_n etc._n etc._n that_o in_o many_o age_n all_o infant_n have_v not_o be_v baptize_v he_o conclude_v but_o say_v he_o as_o those_o thing_n hold_v forth_o a_o liberty_n antiquity_n and_o difference_n of_o custom_n so_o they_o bring_v nothing_o to_o prove_v why_o infant-baptisme_n shall_v be_v reject_v when_o their_o parent_n etc._n etc._n offer_v they_o to_o be_v consecrate_v with_o the_o prayer_n of_o the_o saint_n and_o vow_n of_o pious_a education_n of_o they_o which_o among_o other_o thing_n be_v not_o unfit_o signify_v in_o baptism_n neither_o ought_v that_o to_o be_v any_o hindrance_n to_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n that_o all_o thing_n which_o in_o like_a manner_n be_v signify_v by_o baptism_n can_v agree_v proper_o to_o that_o age_n for_o repentance_n also_o which_o we_o know_v be_v signify_v in_o baptism_n and_o indeed_o have_v a_o great_a place_n in_o they_o that_o have_v long_o live_v a_o most_o impure_a life_n testify_v their_o purpose_n of_o change_v their_o whole_a conversation_n then_o in_o other_o have_v no_o place_n at_o all_o in_o christ_n when_o john_n baptize_v he_o who_o as_o tertullian_n say_v be_v not_o baptize_v as_o any_o debtor_n to_o repentance_n 8._o grotius_n quote_v the_o author_n of_o the_o qu._n ad_fw-la orthodox_n who_o mr._n t._n have_v so_o be-bastarded_n afore_o i_o say_v grotius_n quote_v he_o as_o a_o worthy_a author_n cite_v these_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n infant_n be_v count_v meet_v for_o good_a thing_n by_o baptism_n by_o mean_n of_o the_o faith_n of_o they_o that_o bring_v they_o 9_o in_o that_o christ_n say_v of_o infant_n of_o such_o be_v the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n that_o christ_n do_v in_o that_o say_v thus_o much_o say_v grotius_n by_o so_o much_o the_o less_o be_v that_o age_n to_o be_v despise_v as_o profane_v by_o how_o much_o man_n of_o ripe_a year_n that_o yield_v themselves_o up_o to_o my_o government_n must_v become_v child_n again_o last_o to_o mr._n t._n his_o object_v that_o constantine_n the_o great_a and_o greg._n nazianzen_n be_v not_o baptize_v till_o they_o be_v of_o age_n i_o answer_v 1._o that_o mr._n t._n have_v ill_o urge_v constantine_n a_o latin_a for_o a_o instance_n that_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o ordinary_a in_o the_o greek_a church_n 2._o to_o constantine_n and_o gregory_n nazianzen_v baptism_n we_o have_v answer_v afore_o the_o next_o testimony_n be_v of_o ambrose_n ambrose_n ambrose_n who_o flourish_v about_o the_o year_n 381_o helvic_n 381_o helvic_n he_o in_o his_o 2._o book_n of_o abraham_n chap._n 11._o say_v neither_o the_o old_a proselyte_n nor_o the_o infant_n native_a be_v except_v because_o every_o age_n be_v obnoxious_a to_o sin_n and_o therefore_o every_o age_n be_v meet_v for_o the_o sacrament_n for_o unless_o one_o be_v bear_v again_o of_o water_n and_o the_o holy_a spirit_n he_o can_v enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n
we_o answer_v first_o we_o have_v but_o now_o in_o that_o answer_v for_o augustine_n by_o augustine_n 2_o that_o the_o papist_n put_v too_o much_o of_o justification_n in_o faith_n as_o it_o be_v absolute_o consider_v as_o a_o quality_n may_v not_o we_o therefore_o hold_v justification_n by_o faith_n relative_o consider_v as_o take_v in_o the_o object_n christ_n so_o the_o over_o zeal_n of_o those_o father_n touch_v the_o necessity_n of_o infant-baptisme_n must_v not_o beat_v we_o off_o from_o the_o mediocrity_n of_o truth_n touch_v it_o 3_o for_o augustine_n let_v we_o go_v no_o further_o than_o mr_n t._n his_o quotation_n of_o he_o to_o clear_v he_o tom._n 2._o ep._n 28._o that_o infant_n can_v be_v save_v but_o by_o the_o grace_n of_o the_o lord_n christ_n which_o he_o have_v commend_v to_o we_o in_o his_o sacrament_n he_o say_v there_o they_o be_v save_v by_o the_o grace_n of_o the_o lord_n christ._n and_o say_v only_a christ_n commend_v his_o grace_n to_o we_o in_o the_o sacrament_n and_o for_o my_o part_n when_o augustine_n and_o other_o of_o the_o father_n do_v speak_v so_o confident_o of_o the_o salvation_n of_o unbaptised_a martyr_n yea_o of_o the_o unbaptised_a thief_n i_o can_v imagine_v that_o it_o be_v their_o constant_a absolute_a opinion_n that_o salvation_n lie_v in_o the_o very_a bare_a ordinance_n or_o that_o all_o unbaptised_a infant_n be_v certain_o damn_v we_o give_v you_o touch_v afore_o that_o the_o father_n writing_n infinite_a much_o speak_v sometime_o in_o one_o extreme_a against_o the_o opposite_n on_o the_o one_o hand_n do_v after_o in_o their_o polemicall_a deal_n with_o the_o opposite_n on_o the_o other_o hand_n or_o in_o a_o doctrinal_a way_n moderate_v the_o same_o so_o we_o must_v take_v their_o say_n altogether_o or_o we_o shall_v wrong_v they_o and_o ourselves_o too_o and_o therefore_o mr_n t._n may_v have_v do_v well_o not_o to_o have_v charge_v up_o so_o fierce_o upon_o augustine_n and_o ambrose_n in_o this_o point_n see_v mr_n t._n confess_v present_o follow_v that_o ambrose_n and_o augustin_n in_o his_o 4_o book_n the_o baptism_n contra_fw-la donatistas_n c._n 22._o yield_v that_o either_o martyrdom_n or_o the_o desire_n of_o baptism_n may_v supply_v the_o defect_n of_o baptism_n we_o can_v add_v several_a other_o expression_n of_o augustine_n to_o the_o same_o purpose_n 663._o tom._n 5.713_o edit_fw-la bas_n contra_fw-la donat._n l._n 5._o to._n 7.452_o edit_fw-la bas_n ibid._n 101._o ibid._n 663._o as_o that_o death_n sometime_o supply_v the_o place_n of_o baptism_n that_o suffer_v faith_n conversion_n of_o the_o heart_n supply_v the_o room_n of_o baptism_n that_o the_o baptism_n of_o blood_n be_v great_a than_o the_o baptism_n of_o the_o river_n that_o little_a one_o not_o baptize_v have_v a_o most_o easy_a condemnation_n last_o whatever_o the_o rigidness_n of_o augustin_n and_o ambrose_n be_v in_o some_o passage_n touch_v infant-baptism_n the_o grand_a point_n in_o hand_n be_v whether_o baptism_n in_o these_o man_n and_o other_o father_n time_n be_v in_o practice_n as_o a_o unwritten_a tradition_n or_o as_o ground_v on_o the_o scripture_n and_o for_o the_o latter_a those_o and_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o ancient_n be_v full_a and_o to_o purpose_n as_o we_o have_v hear_v for_o mr_n t._n endeavour_v to_o detract_v from_o augustine_n touch_v his_o infer_v the_o necessarynesse_n of_o infant-baptisme_n from_o john_n 3.5_o because_o aquinas_n and_o bellarmine_n urge_v the_o same_o place_n for_o the_o same_o point_n word_n point_n see_v marlorat_n on_o the_o place_n &_o bullingers_n word_n to_o i_o be_v a_o poor_a argument_n do_v the_o papist_n and_o we_o agree_v in_o no_o truth_n do_v not_o general_o all_o our_o most_o famous_a godly_a and_o learned_a protestant_n within_o this_o last_o hundred_o year_n understand_v that_o very_a place_n of_o baptism_n and_o dare_v any_o of_o we_o in_o our_o pulpit_n say_v there_o be_v not_o necessitas_fw-la praecepti_fw-la &_o medy_n a_o mandatory_a and_o instrumental_a necessity_n of_o ordinance_n that_o at_o our_o peril_n we_o may_v not_o wilful_o neglect_v they_o so_o that_o with_o cyprian_a afore_o quote_v we_o conclude_v we_o must_v not_o as_o far_o as_o in_o we_o lie_v debarr_o our_o posterity_n from_o salvation_n likewise_o the_o next_o objection_n of_o m._n t._n be_v not_o so_o considerable_a 8._o examen_fw-la §._o 8._o where_o he_o say_v that_o he_o can_v find_v among_o the_o ancient_n for_o baptism_n that_o ground_n of_o we_o that_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n belong_v to_o believer_n and_o their_o seed_n for_o first_o we_o demand_v animadver_n animadver_n must_v not_o the_o worthy_a ancient_n be_v say_v to_o hold_v a_o tenet_n upon_o scripture-argument_n for_o that_o be_v the_o point_n at_o present_a unless_o they_o hold_v it_o upon_o all_o argument_n 2_o we_o find_v few_o of_o our_o argument_n against_o episcopacy_n in_o the_o father_n yet_o in_o this_o we_o side_n with_o aerius_n against_o they_o though_o they_o condemn_v he_o for_o heretical_a 3_o antiquity_n have_v somewhat_o of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n in_o relation_n to_o infant-baptisme_n in_o the_o thing_n we_o have_v afore_o quote_v tertullian_n set_v recount_v in_o christ_n over_o against_o count_v in_o adam_n cyprian_n epistle_n tell_v we_o in_o those_o time_n they_o look_v to_o circumcision_n for_o infant_n baptism_n gre._n nazianzen_n once_o and_o augustine_n oft_o make_v parallel_n and_o comparison_n between_o circumcision_n and_o baptism_n tertullian_n again_o say_v that_o the_o child_n of_o either_o parental-sexe_n sanctify_v be_v holy_a by_o the_o prerogative_n of_o the_o seed_n and_o the_o rule_n of_o discipline_n see_v also_o before_o clem._n alexandrinus_n and_o hesichius_n yea_o some_o of_o the_o ancient_n be_v so_o far_o transport_v in_o the_o consideration_n of_o the_o descent_n of_o the_o line_n of_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n from_o the_o parent_n to_o the_o child_n that_o they_o do_v transcend_v to_o this_o opinion_n that_o the_o child_n conceive_v and_o be_v in_o the_o mother_n at_o her_o baptism_n be_v some_o how_o baptize_v in_o the_o mother_n this_o appear_v partly_o from_o augustine_n dispute_v the_o contrary_n basil_n contrary_n august_n lib._n 6_o contra_fw-la julian._n col._n 11_o 19_o edit_n basil_n and_o it_o be_v not_o my_o note_n only_o but_o the_o note_n of_o some_o other_o also_o and_o partly_o from_o one_o clause_n in_o a_o decree_n of_o the_o neo●asarien_n synod_n hold_v anno._n 313._o after_o christ_n as_o some_o interpret_v it_o zanar_n it_o balsam_n et_fw-fr zanar_n wherein_o they_o decree_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d etc._n etc._n that_o be_v the_o woman_n great_a with_o child_n may_v be_v baptize_v when_o she_o please_v for_o in_o this_o she_o that_o be_v about_o to_o bring_v forth_o impart_v nothing_o to_o the_o child_n that_o be_v to_o be_v bear_v now_o if_o this_o be_v so_o exit_fw-la malis_fw-la moribus_fw-la bonae_fw-la procreantur_fw-la leges_fw-la that_o a_o law_n suppose_v a_o fault_n then_o there_o be_v some_o how_o some_o what_o too_o much_o inspection_n in_o some_o of_o the_o ancient_n upon_o the_o covenant_n of_o grace_n in_o relation_n to_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n animadver_n examen_fw-la animadver_n as_o for_o the_o popish_a schoolman_n biel_n cajetan_n and_o gerson_n touch_v the_o necessity_n of_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n which_o mr._n t._n allege_v we_o be_v not_o careful_a to_o give_v any_o answer_n to_o they_o as_o we_o be_v not_o to_o care_v for_o their_o opinion_n protestant_n be_v not_o tie_v to_o make_v good_a the_o dream_n of_o papist_n or_o if_o this_o will_v not_o go_v for_o a_o answer_n let_v one_o of_o their_o own_o tribe_n answer_v they_o namely_o peter_n lombard_n in_o his_o sense_n of_o the_o text_n 3_o of_o joh._n ver_fw-la 5._o upon_o which_o aquinas_n and_o ballarmine_n and_o the_o rest_n of_o that_o rout_n tower_a up_o on_o high_a their_o too_o sublime_a and_o absolute_a necessity_n of_o the_o baptism_n of_o infant_n upon_o pain_n of_o salvation_n peter_n lumbards_n word_n be_v the_o place_n of_o joh._n 3.5_o unless_o a_o man_n be_v bear_v again_o of_o water_n and_o the_o spirit_n he_o can_v enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o god_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v say_v he_o of_o those_o which_o may_v be_v yet_o contemn_v to_o be_v baptize_v to_o that_o mr._n t._n object_n about_o augustine_n opinion_n of_o give_v the_o holy_a supper_n to_o infant_n we_o will_v answer_v to_o god_n permit_v anon_o when_o we_o return_v to_o mr._n t._n his_o exercitation_n sect._n 17._o where_o he_o have_v the_o same_o charge_n against_o augustine_n though_o it_o be_v quite_o beside_o the_o point_n in_o hand_n of_o infant-baptisme_n and_o without_o all_o coherence_n of_o argumentation_n in_o the_o dispute_n mr._n t._n yet_o again_o urge_v even_o to_o a_o surfeit_n upon_o it_o augustine_n opinion_n of_o the_o
will_v be_v mistake_v thus_o of_o mr_n t._n his_o first_o particular_a in_o his_o minor_a that_o infant_n baptism_n be_v a_o unwritten_a tradition_n in_o some_o age_n after_o the_o first_o of_o the_o apostle_n but_o he_o can_v tell_v when_o as_o we_o have_v prove_v to_o his_o second_o particular_a of_o jewish_a imitation_n exercitat_fw-la exercitat_fw-la we_o have_v speak_v already_o in_o answer_n to_o the_o major_a animadver_n animadver_n and_o we_o have_v show_v that_o the_o pious_a learned_a ancient_n have_v other_o scripture_n reason_n then_o only_a circumcision_n or_o their_o greediness_n to_o increase_v the_o number_n of_o christian_n who_o so_o oft_o give_v warning_n to_o take_v heed_n to_o who_o they_o give_v that_o sacred_a thing_n baptism_n 18._o baptism_n caeterum_fw-la baptismum_fw-la non_fw-la temere_fw-la credendumesse_n sciunt_fw-la quorum_fw-la officium_fw-la est_fw-la nolite_fw-la dare_v sanctum_fw-la canibus_fw-la ne_fw-la participes_fw-la a_o liena_fw-la delicta_fw-la etc._n etc._n textul_n lib._n de_fw-fr baptis_fw-la cap._n 18._o or_o mr_n t._n his_o perhaps_o a_o fine_a word_n for_o a_o argument_n and_o in_o divine_a thing_n heathenish_a lustration_n of_o little_a one_o when_o justin_n martyr_n tertullian_n etc._n etc._n apologize_v against_o heathenism_n for_o christianity_n and_o many_o of_o our_o quote_v author_n seal_v their_o opposition_n against_o heathenism_n with_o their_o blood_n and_o if_o there_o be_v any_o true_a jewish_a imitation_n of_o circumcision_n in_o infant-baptisme_n it_o be_v in_o fidus_n that_o think_v child_n may_v not_o be_v baptize_v till_o the_o eight_o day_n and_o not_o in_o cyprian_n epistle_n that_o confute_v he_o nor_o do_v they_o more_o intimate_v the_o necessity_n of_o baptism_n to_o salvation_n then_o christ_n himself_o john_n 3.5_o except_o a_o man_n he_o bear_v again_o of_o water_n and_o the_o spirit_n &c._n &c._n which_o be_v a_o place_n they_o oft_o quote_v or_o the_o apostle_n that_o say_v we_o be_v baptize_v into_o remission_n of_o sin_n and_o for_o receivall_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n which_o they_o hierom_n and_o other_o also_o allege_v and_o it_o be_v most_o sure_a there_o be_v such_o a_o necessity_n in_o regard_n of_o god_n precept_n and_o mean_n as_o to_o we_o in_o the_o use_n of_o ordinance_n as_o let_v they_o venture_v their_o salvation_n on_o the_o willing_a neglect_n of_o they_o that_o dare_v i_o dare_v not_o as_o it_o be_v a_o sin_n to_o put_v more_o in_o a_o ordinance_n than_o god_n ever_o put_v in_o it_o as_o the_o anabaptist_n talk_v of_o wonderful_a strange_a manifestation_n at_o and_o in_o the_o act_n of_o dip_v i_o know_v what_o i_o speak_v or_o to_o think_v one_o be_v damn_v without_o a_o ordinance_n when_o god_n prevent_v the_o have_v it_o by_o death_n or_o otherwise_o so_o great_a be_v the_o sin_n to_o contemn_v a_o ordinance_n enjoin_v when_o it_o may_v be_v have_v as_o tertullian_n speak_v in_o his_o book_n de_fw-fr baptismo_fw-la chap._n 13._o etc._n hic_fw-la ergo_fw-la scelestissimi_fw-la illi_fw-la etc._n etc._n here_o those_o most_o graceless_a follow_v provoke_v question_n so_o that_o they_o say_v baptism_n be_v not_o necessary_a to_o who_o faith_n be_v sufficient_a etc._n etc._n to_o mr_n t._n 17._o exercitat_fw-la §._o 17._o his_o three_o particular_a in_o his_o minor_n that_o infant-baptisme_n be_v not_o universal_o practise_v for_o constantine_n be_v not_o baptize_v while_o a_o infant_n though_o his_o mother_n helena_n be_v a_o christian_a nor_o augustine_n though_o his_o mother_n monica_n be_v a_o christian_a etc._n etc._n we_o answer_v 1_o no_o wonder_n if_o baptism_n of_o infant_n be_v not_o universal_o practise_v in_o all_o age_n animadver_n animadver_n when_o so_o many_o sect_n under_o one_o notion_n or_o another_o more_o or_o less_o stick_v at_o it_o first_o arrian_n in_o one_o age_n after_o that_o the_o pelagian_o in_o another_o after_o they_o arminius_n then_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o luther_n time_n then_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o ainsworths_n time_n and_o now_o the_o anabaptist_n in_o our_o time_n shall_v these_o man_n make_v a_o practice_n and_o then_o make_v of_o it_o a_o argument_n for_o themselves_o who_o will_v be_v sway_v with_o such_o a_o argument_n as_o that_o they_o shall_v make_v out_o their_o practice_n from_o a_o argument_n and_o not_o make_v a_o argument_n of_o their_o practice_n 2_o mr_n t._n do_v not_o here_o so_o much_o as_o say_v that_o helena_n be_v a_o christian_a at_o constantine_n birth_n or_o that_o monica_n be_v a_o christian_a at_o augustine_n birth_n which_o to_o have_v clear_v be_v necessary_a to_o the_o argument_n 3_o who_o do_v not_o know_v that_o history_n make_v mention_n of_o helena_n as_o of_o a_o very_a weak_a and_o wonderful_a i_o have_v almost_o say_v superstitious_a christian_n trans_fw-la socrat._v schol_a ecles_n hist_o lib._n 1._o chap._n 13._o according_a to_o the_o english_a trans_fw-la in_o dig_v for_o the_o cross_n of_o christ_n at_o jerusalem_n and_o find_v three_o to_o wit_v those_o two_o also_o on_o which_o the_o thief_n be_v crucify_v on_o and_o be_v perplex_v which_o be_v christ_n a_o miracle_n of_o cure_v a_o die_a woman_n with_o that_o which_o be_v christ_n resolve_v which_o be_v his_o and_o so_o she_o lock_v up_o some_o of_o it_o in_o a_o silver_n chest_n and_o the_o rest_n be_v set_v up_o upon_o a_o pillar_n in_o the_o market_n place_n at_o constantinople_n so_o call_v of_o constantine_n for_o the_o preservation_n of_o that_o city_n as_o also_o that_o she_o find_v the_o nail_n that_o fasten_v christ_n to_o the_o cross_n she_o send_v they_o to_o her_o son_n constantine_n the_o emperor_n whereof_o he_o cause_v bit_n for_o bridle_n helmet_n and_o head-piece_n to_o be_v make_v which_o he_o wear_v in_o battle_n so_o socrate_n eccles_n you_o see_v how_o vain_a a_o story_n here_o be_v and_o that_o all_o the_o christianity_n by_o this_o appear_v in_o helena_n relate_v to_o the_o time_n of_o her_o son_n constantine_n be_v emperor_n and_o therefore_o what_o mr_n t._n can_v make_v of_o it_o to_o his_o purpose_n i_o know_v not_o 4._o at_o this_o time_n of_o constantine_n birth_n be_v great_a persecution_n rise_v now_o almost_o towards_o the_o high_a it_o cost_v after_o that_o constantine_n many_o a_o battle_n before_o he_o can_v quiet_a thing_n and_o therefore_o helena_n the_o empress_n the_o wife_n of_o constantius_n the_o emperor_n religion_n then_o dare_v little_a to_o peep_v forth_o more_o than_o in_o notorious_a suffering_n for_o it_o may_v well_o be_v afraid_a if_o she_o be_v then_o a_o christian_a to_o do_v such_o a_o act_n as_o to_o carry_v her_o son_n to_o baptism_n as_o minister_n may_v be_v afraid_a to_o do_v it_o constantius_n the_o father_n not_o be_v a_o christian_n though_o political_o moderate_a 5._o for_o augustine_n 1._o it_o be_v clear_a out_o of_o aug._n confession_n the_o first_o book_n and_o 11._o chap._n that_o his_o father_n be_v not_o a_o believer_n at_o his_o birth_n nor_o when_o he_o be_v 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