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A00627 Fennes frutes vvhich vvorke is deuided into three seuerall parts; the first, a dialogue betweene fame and the scholler ... The second, intreateth of the lamentable ruines which attend on vvarre ... The third, that it is not requisite to deriue our pedegree from the vnfaithfull Troians, who were chiefe causes of their owne destruction: whereunto is added Hecubaes mishaps, discoursed by way of apparition. Fenne, Thomas. 1590 (1590) STC 10763; ESTC S102003 182,190 232

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proceed and dayly to go forward among them that in that behalfe they were forced to constitute and ordayne this sharpe sentence and punishment against all such wicked offenders prouided alwayes that whosoeuer should bee found guiltie of parricide should thus be vsed He should be put into a sacke or hollowe thing and therein also should be put a Dog a Cocke a Viper and an Ape which thing beeing shut vp and closed fast togeather againe shoulde bee throwen into the next Sea Riuer or Floud thereunto adioyning there most miserably to die in the hatefull companie of those which by nature coulde neuer abide or brooke each other And wherefore Et enim ei repentè coelum solem aquam terram adimerunt vt qui eum necasset vnde ipse natus esset careret quoque ijs rebus ex quibus omnia nata esse dicuntur Because hee should want or be depriued of both the sunne aire water and earth for that hee had slaine or murdred him who first was the cause of his life therefore he should want the benefite of such necessaries from whence all things are said to be procreated and ingendered For next vnder God the foure Elements are said to haue the chiefest regiment and gouernment of all naturall and earthly things Fame Well friend I perceiue that you are héerein certefied that murder is a most monstrous and hainous offence and that also from one degrée to another the wilfull committer scapeth not vnpunished For if as you say the Oracles haue pronounced such sharpe sentence against them not permitting such to come into the temple then no doubt but that the liuing God will much more with farre greater punishment torment such wilfull and malicious offenders and therefore as I say seeing you are herein so well satisfied perceiuing so effectually the tenor of our cōference I will with a more willinger minde procéed and goe forward according to forepassed promise But I greatly feare me least that alreadie I haue passed and far gone beyond the bonds of decorum in being so tedious and ouer troublesome in so manie superfluous examples which well might haue bin related and made manifest in a much more bréefer sort lesse troubling the eares of the willing hearer whose quick conceipt capacitie soone by a part coniectureth and discerneth the whole which error troublesome cause I shall right willingly be content hereafter to reforme vsing in the blameable place of tediousnesse a more briefe and shorter order Scho. Sir then as I haue said before you should offer to me great discontentment for that I as greatly delight in the histories and tragicall reports as no other conference can so well please me your intent and meaning therewithall being thorowly perceiued therefore sir I beséech you not to thinke that you so farre excéed the bonds of decorum as that héereafter you should with breuitie discourse of causes whereby I might remaine altogether vnacquainted of so manie especiall notes and good examples wherein I shall neuer be tired or ouer-wearied but rather impute that fault to mine importunacie and so shall you clearely free your selfe from anie such supposed blameable suspition Fame With verie good will I shall be content accordingly to procéed and if you in like manner refuse not to beare the blame of the aforesaid suspition therefore whereas wee haue alreadie sufficiently touched the mōstrous pride of mans mind and what in the ende is gained thereby yet notwithstanding there is another kinde of pride in the garments wearing apparell for the ancient Prouerbe is Per exteriora interius cognoscamus By the outward showe of braue apparell we may knowe the inward vainglorious minde But by the way this rule is no certaine consequence but as wee sée dooth often faile and deceiue vs for manie wil weare a braue cloake whose coate and inward apparel is veluet I meane pride to be couered with a simple garment and a méeke and humble minde shadowed with rich aray The wise Socrates when he marked the stately pride of the arrogant Antisthenes for he did alwaies weare the ragged péece of his thredbare cloake outward in sight beeing a wonderful proud minded felow making show as though he had béen contented with base and homely raiment being openly knowen that he might haue had better if he would was thus quipped for the pride of his minde by Socrates Quin desinis arrogantiam tuam nobis prodere Wilt thou neuer saith he leaue bewraying vnto vs thy vaine pride and foolish folly As who would say we knowe the arrogancie of thy minde by this thy counterfet basenesse Also Diogenes when he was come to Olympia and sawe certaine yong men of Rhodes gorgeouslie decked and sumptuously apparailed laughed at them and said Hoc nihil est preter fastum This is nothing els but meere pride and haughtinesse The same Diogenes againe chancing at the same time to sée certaine Lacedemonians in ragged ragged rent riuen slouenlie and loathsome garments said Haec longè alia est superbia This also is a kinde of pride but farre different from the former This also is to be remembred that at what time an auncient and graue Father of Ceus came to Lacedemonia being puffed vp with pride and swelling with insolencie was for his fatherly olde age had in reuerence and honour insomuch that he coloured his hoarie head ouergrowen with graye haires This olde man comming into an Assembly of the Lacedemonians discouered his head for them to behold and made a declaration of such matter whereabout he came But Archidamus King of the Lacedemonians rising vp said in this wise What sound or true tale can the tongue of this fellowe report whose heart is stayned with the spots of hypocrisie and double dealing and whose head is couloured with counterfet comelinesse Thus would hee in no case allow the wordes of the olde man but vtterly reiecting them taunted the euill inclination of the olde mans nature by those circumstances which were obiect to sight and apparant to the eye It is also certainly reported that Condalus the Lieutenant of Mausolus King of Caria perceiuing the people of Lysia wherein hee was Lieutenaunt to haue a great pride in their trimme bushes and long haire on a time fained that he had receiued letters from his Master the King that the People of Lysia should cut off their bushes of haire and send them to him Wherewith perceiuing they were all astonied fearing least that they should loose their brauerie wherein they much delighted he said If they would charge themselues with a péece of money that then he would not doubt but to finde out meanes that mens haire should bee bought in Greece and sent to the King his Master therewithall to satisfie his minde and they should keepe and weare still all their trimme lockes and bushes which follie and pride to maintaine they presently collected an infinite summe of money which euerie priuate man disbursed willingly Therefore