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A compendious discourse on the Eucharist with two appendixes.
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R. H., 1609-1678.
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Wing W3440A; ESTC R22619
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blondel_n p._n 70._o reckon_v among_o the_o author_n that_o hold_v the_o element_n to_o be_v change_v into_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n in_o his_o six_o proposition_n this_o therefore_o at_o the_o least_o will_v amount_v to_o consubstantiation_n like_o theodoret_n 3._o concern_v that_o note_a place_n of_o st._n ambrose_n de_fw-fr sacram._n l._n 4._o c._n 4._o quote_v by_o dr._n taylor_n p._n 306._o the_o word_n be_v these_o si_fw-mi tanta_fw-la vis_fw-la est_fw-la in_o sermone_fw-la domini_fw-la ut_fw-la ea_fw-la incipiant_fw-la esse_fw-la quae_fw-la non_fw-la erant_fw-la he_o refer_v to_o ipse_fw-la dixit_fw-la &_o facta_fw-la sunt_fw-la quanto_fw-la magis_fw-la operatorius_fw-la est_fw-la ut_fw-la sint_fw-la quae_fw-la erant_fw-la &_o in_o aliud_fw-la commutentur_fw-la here_o the_o true_a natural_a meaning_n seem_v to_o be_v as_o bellarmin_n observe_v ut_fw-la quae_fw-la erant_fw-la sint_fw-la answer_v to_o the_o former_a quae_fw-la non_fw-la erant_fw-la incipiant_fw-la esse_fw-la i._n e._n ut_fw-la quae_fw-la erant_fw-la maneant_fw-la quamvis_fw-la mutata_fw-la as_o in_o another_o treatise_n de_fw-fr myster_n init_fw-la c._n 9_o he_o say_v non_fw-la minus_fw-la est_fw-la novas_fw-la rebus_fw-la dare_v quam_fw-la mutare_fw-la naturas_fw-la and_o in_o the_o same_o chapter_n out_o of_o which_o the_o former_a testimony_n be_v take_v be_v also_o these_o word_n panis_n iste_fw-la panis_fw-la est_fw-la ante_fw-la verba_fw-la consecrationis_fw-la ubi_fw-la accesserit_fw-la consecratio_fw-la de_fw-la pane_fw-la sit_fw-la caro_fw-la christi_fw-la but_o suppose_v he_o to_o hold_v no_o change_n here_o of_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n yet_o must_v he_o mean_v some_o real_a change_n effect_v by_o god_n omnipotence_n beyond_o the_o bread_n be_v change_v from_o common_a to_o a_o sacred_a use_n and_o this_o such_o as_o puts_z the_o substantial_a presence_n of_o christ_n body_n at_o least_o with_o the_o bread_n since_o he_o suppose_v a_o miraculous_a 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denique_fw-la panis_fw-la non_fw-la manens_fw-la panis_fw-la sed_fw-la benedictione_n mutatus_fw-la sit_fw-la corpus_fw-la domini_fw-la quae_fw-la est_fw-la sententia_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la catholicae_fw-la whereby_o it_o seem_v to_o follow_v that_o if_o the_o father_n accord_n not_o in_o the_o sense_n of_o it_o with_o the_o transubstantialist_n they_o must_v with_o the_o calvinist_n and_o the_o schoolman_n also_o bring_v in_o to_o oppose_v it_o see_v blondel_n p._n 155._o i_o answer_v this_o proposition_n hic_fw-la panis_fw-la est_fw-la corpus_fw-la meum_fw-la as_o it_o be_v diverse_o explain_v seem_v proper_a enough_o to_o be_v use_v by_o any_o of_o the_o three_o opinion_n first_o by_o those_o who_o hold_v a_o substantial_a conversion_n for_o indeed_o at_o least_o some_o of_o those_o father_n who_o use_v this_o phrase_n yet_o seem_v clear_o to_o hold_v a_o substantial_a conversion_n as_o i_o shall_v show_v anon_o and_o the_o same_o father_n who_o say_v that_o the_o bread_n be_v the_o 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corpus_fw-la christi_fw-la into_o which_o the_o lutheran_n resolve_v it_o be_v as_o remote_a from_o contradiction_n as_o the_o proposition_n sub_fw-la specie_fw-la huius_fw-la panis_fw-la est_fw-la &c_n &c_n the_o resolution_n of_o the_o transubstantialist_n 3_o the_o same_o proposition_n may_v bear_v only_o a_o figurative_a sense_n like_o that_o i_o be_o the_o vine_n or_o i_o be_o the_o door_n and_o