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A letter to a gentleman of Leicester-shire shewing, out of the publique writings which have passed betwixt His Majestie and his two Houses of Parliament : that all the overtures which have beene made for peace and accommodation have proceeded from His Majesty only and that the unsucessefulnesse of the late treatie is not to be imputed to His Majesty but to them alone.
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Heylyn, Peter, 1600-1662.
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Wing H1725A; ESTC R30781
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but know and His Majesty often cals upon them for it they have not the least pretence of Law If this be said that it is desired but for three yeers that is sufficient argument to shew it is a new thing they pretend to 'Pray who thinkes that they who can doe all this without any right or president after such a title to it will not find Jealousies enougâ⦠to continue their possession for ever for I thinke some intend to make this Parliament perpetuall yet surely the Subject generally can never be so sotted to wish it so they gave themselves not up to this race of men for a perpetuall government nor those them for their lives or with a power to settle themselves for their lives Nor did they thinke so themselves when they askt a Parliament every three yeeres they should have pretended to one alwayes But as the best reason to ansââ¦er this Why should the King to whom all making Warre and Peace belongs and if others had not invaded this right we had beene still in peace divest himselfe of this power since this power in this Kingdome vvas never in any person single or representative body of all the Subjects saving himselfe and Predecessors What will this effect but the continuance of the misery we now groan under for if the Houses can now vvithout the Kings authroty make this unnaturall Warre betwixt Subject and Subject and put those heavy loads on all fellow Subjects that will not comply as that their persons may be imprisoned nay slaine their goods plundered theiâ⦠estates sequestred nay given away if more could be vvhat might vve not expect when they had a pretence of interest and power in disposing the Armes of this Kingdome And doe they not use us as the King say they fight for Him when they ââ¦hoot to slay Him say it is for the good of the Kingdome when authority is given to plunder all mens estates they will call malignant and when neither Country nor person that would be a neutrall which I know not how they can answer in Law to the King can be admitted by them by Law to shew why he is not bound to contribute to their Assessements I promised you I would not say much of my owne and you see that few Articles are treated therefore I vvill not exceed them this onely I 'le tell you that if these tvvo Articles vvere granted as desired I knovv not vvhy they might not nay I feare they vvou'd presently force the King to the other 17. So little they had left in him to defend himselfe for how could I that by Law am now bound to attend him in his Warres stay with him when a new Law said he could ââ¦eavy no force but with such a consent Consider therefore his Answer to the 19 Propositions his Answers to these particulars in this Treaty and see whether he make not the rule of all his Actions Law and Right they feares and jelousies by the one you may measure any thing indeed the Law is but the rule of our publike actions by the other no man can measure any thing for to measures feares and jealousies is as hard a taske as to take measure of the Moon for a garment which is ever waxing or declining never in a certaine condition I conclude therefore with this advice Remember the obedience to Princes God requires the strict Allegiance our Lawes enjoyne The Oathes we have taken or by nature are bound to observe to him Feare then God and honour the King and have not to doe with those that love change lest as you may contribute to continue our miseries for a time you make your owne everlasting FINIS a His ãâã ãâã ãâã 12. 1641. b His Majesties Message Jan. 14. 1641. c His Majesties Answers Feb 2 1641. d His Majesties Answer Feb. 28. 1641. e Ibid. and His Majestiâ⦠Ans. ââ¦o a ââ¦ook c. May 19 1642. f Hiâ⦠ãâã Dââ¦claration Mar. 9. 1641. g His Majesties Ans. to a Book c. May 19. 1641. h His Majesties Messââ¦ge Jan. 20. 1641. i Ibid. k Ibid. l Humââ¦le Petition of the Commââ¦ns ââ¦a 28. 1641. m The third Rââ¦monstrance pab III. n Reply to the ãâã ãâã the Sep. 2. 1642. o His ãâã ãâã Aug. 25. 1642. p His Majesties Message Sept. 11. 1642. q Answer to His ãâã ãâã Sept. 26. r Petition ãâã the two Houâ⦠Nov. âã ãâã s His Majesties Message Sept. 11. 1642. a The humble ãâã and Pââ¦opositions ãâã 1. 1642. b His Majesties Answer to those Propositions c Ibid. p. 12. d Ibid. p. 13. e The Votes agreed on Feb. ââ¦8 1642. f His Majeâ⦠ãâã to both Houses April 8. 1643. g His Majeâ⦠Answer to the Propositions Fââ¦b 1. 1642. h His Majesties Answer to the ãâã tââ¦uching the Cessation i His Majeâ⦠Answer to the Articlââ¦s of Cessation l ãâã a book called The Reasons of the Lords Commons c. m ãâã the ãâã of the ãâã pag. 35. n His Majesties ãâã to the ãâã o His ãâã ãâã to the ãâã of Cessation p Collection of ââ¦ll the papers pag 1 2. q ãâã p. 3. r Ibid. p. 5. s Ibid. p. 4. t Ibid. p. 4. u Ibid. p. 6. a Ibid. p. 6. b Ibid. p. 4. c Ibid. p. 5. d His Majesties Message Aug. 13. and the Answer to it e Collection of all the Papers p. 5. f Ibid. p. 8. g Ibid. p. 10. h Ibid. p. 10. i Ibid. p. 9. k Ibid. p. 8. l Ibid. p. 9. m Ibid. p. 10. n Ibid. p. ãâã o Ibid. p. 11 12. p Ibid. p. 13 14. q Ibid. p. 14. r Ibid p. 15 16. s Ibid. p. 15. t Ibid. p. 15. u Ibid p. 17. a Ibid. p. 15. b Ibid. p. 1â⦠c Ibid. p. 22 25. d His Majejesties Answ. to the Propââ¦s Febr. 1. e Collection of ill the papââ¦s p. 13. f Ibid. p. 22. g Ibid. p. 13. 22. h Ibid. p. 24 25. i Ibid. p. 25. k Ibid. p. 26 l Ibidem p. ãâã m Ibidâ⦠p. ââ¦8 n Ibid. p. 20. o Ibid. p. 20. u Collection of all the papers p 27. a Ibid. p. ãâã b Ibid. p. 27. c Ibid. p. ãâã d Pag. 28 ââ¦9 e Ibid. p. 18 25. f Ibid. p. 30. g Ibid. p. 38. h Ibid. p. 38. i Ibid. p. 29. k Ibid. p. 31. l Ibid. p. 32. m Ibid. p. 34. n Ibid. p. 39. o His Majesties Message April 12. 1643. p Ibid p. 36. 37 q His ãâã Ansââ¦er to the Rââ¦asons Apâ⦠4. r Colection of the Papers p. 30. s Ibid. p. 30. t Ibid. p. 35. u Ibid. p. 33. a Ibid. p. 11. b Ibid. p. 12. c Ibid. p. 48. d Petition of the Lords and Commons ãâã 26. 1642. June 17. c. e Declaration March 9. 1641. f Petition at Theobalds ãâã 1. 1641. g ãâã resolved March 2. 1641. h Tââ¦e votes of ãâã ãâã ãâã ââ¦6 i Answ. by His Majesties last ãâã and that of Sept. 16 1642. k Petition of the Major and Aldermen Jan. 3. 1642.
so totally deprived his ãâã even to the ãâã away of money out of his Exchââ¦quer and the ãâã r ãâã that ãâã had not wherewith to subsist in the condââ¦on of a private Genââ¦leman yet they had confidence enough ãâã tell him that they had received a very small proportion of it which for the most part was imployed in the maintenance of His Majesties children s But the next thing worthy of yoââ¦r observation is with what readinesse and facility his ãâã was content to rest upon the promise of these his Majestiââ¦s two Houses of Parliament to satisfie Him for those summes which remained due t as also for leaving the same unto His Maiââ¦stie for the time to come in the same way wherein it was before the beginning of these troubles u considering the power they claim of making and revoking Ordinances as they see occasion and with what specious shadows of ãâã they may impose soââ¦e new restraints and interruptions on the same as often as they have a minde to create new Jealousies And you may please to know withall that this refunding of such summes as they had received out of his Majââ¦sties ãâã came not without a clogge upon it it being to be done but upon condition for ought the Committee a had to say unto the contrary that His Maiestie would restore what had been taken for his own use upon any of the Bills assigned to other purposes by Act of Parliament or out of the provision made for the War in Ireland b It 's true somewhat He received for his own houshold out of the Customes for the maintenance of this and Robes above 12. moneths since and they know a great part of this came out of his own Customes of Inheritance And that to his Fathers houshold even by Act of Parliament much thereof was assigned so with the knowledge of this Parliament continued to him But herein as in other things they shewed a notable piece of cunning to abuse the people in making them beleeve that the many sums of money levied on the Subject for the necessary service of this Kingdom or the War in Ireland had been converted by his Majestie to his proper use Whereas they knew exceeding well His Maiestie had received very little or indeed nothing in that way c the monies levied on those Acts being paid and to be paid to Treasurers of their own appointing and could not but as well remember that they had seized upon 100000 l. at once of those publike monies which had beenâ⦠paid by the Adventurers for the War of Ireland and by the Act of Parliament was not to be imployed in any other purpose whatsoever then the reducing of those Rââ¦bels to be expended in a most unnaturall Warre against his Maiestie d And yet such was his Sacred Majesties desire to give all possible contentment to his said two Houses that He declared his willingnesse to restore all monies which had been taken by his Maiestie or by Authority from him on any Bills assigned unto other purposes e without requiring or expecting the like from them So that the first point that of the Revenue was soon agreed betwixt his Maiââ¦stie and the Committee his Majââ¦stie being willing to connive at some things and consent to any thing within the verge of their demands which might conduce to bring it to speedy issue 10. Touching the Mââ¦gazines Forts and Ships there are some things to be observed whââ¦ch do relate to ââ¦ll in common and some which are to be considered with reference to each branch in severall Offer was made by the Committee that all the Armes and Ammunition which hââ¦d bââ¦ene taken our of his Majesties Magazines and was remaining in the haââ¦ds of both Houseâ⦠of Parliament should be delivered into His Majestiââ¦s Stores that which was wanting of the same to be supplyââ¦d in kinde in convenient time f To this His Majestie vouchsafed a gracious free consent desired not the performance of it untill the Treaty was concluded and agreed upon g declared the place of Store to which his Armes and Ammunition shoââ¦ld be ãâã to be no other then the usuall place even the Tower of London h and promised to restore all Armes and Ammunition which had beene taken for His Majestiââ¦s use his own at that time being taken from him from any of the Counties Towns or Cities in this his Realme expecting onely but not conditioning with them as they did with Him that they should do the like for all the Armes and Ammunition which had been takââ¦n for the use of their Armies under the command of the Earl of Essex i Hitherto all things were agreed on and with much facility The difference was that they desired the publike Magazines might be committed to such persons of His Majesties naming as the two Houses should confide in k which is no more nor lesse then to keep them still in their owne power at their owne disposing or at the best to shift it out of one hand into another For we know well enough that their confiding men are such as are resolved on all occââ¦sions to serve their turns against His Majââ¦stie or else to be discharged without ââ¦urther confidence And this they did so pertinacioââ¦sly adhere unto that though His Majestie declared that the said Magazines should be committed to and continued in the cusââ¦ody of the sworne Officers some of the which had beene by them commended to His ââ¦acred Majestie unto whoââ¦e plââ¦ce it bââ¦long'd l and who had Patents of those places m which His ãâã in Law and Iustice could not take away and that if any of those Officers had committed or should commit any misdââ¦meanour to make them unworthy of that trust His Majesty would by no means dââ¦fend thââ¦m from the Iusticâ⦠of Law n yet that would not satisfie They must have all committed to such hands as they might confide in and were so farre from guiding their affââ¦ctions by Law and Iustice and so much discontented with his ââ¦ajesties Answer that they would neither offer any ââ¦xceptions against the persons now in Office nor render any reasons of their dislike although His Majesty seemed twice to require it of them o 11. So also for the other branch touching the Forts Port-Townes and Garrisons it was agreed on eaââ¦ly on both sides that all the Fortifications which had been raised since the beginning of these troubles should be sleighted and all the ââ¦arrisons which had been newly placed in any of his Majââ¦sties Townes Fââ¦rts and Castles should be removed and the said Castlââ¦s Townes and Forts reduced into such condition as theâ⦠were in An. 1636. But in this point the difference was wider then in that before For here the Houses did not onely require of His ââ¦acred Majââ¦stie to put the ãâã Forts and Towns into such hands as they might ãâã in and that the keeping of the Cinque-Ports and all the members of the