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A13160 A challenge concerning the Romish Church, her doctrine & practises, published first against Rob. Parsons, and now againe reuiewed, enlarged, and fortified, and directed to him, to Frier Garnet, to the archpriest Blackevvell and all their adhærents, by Matth. Sutcliffe. Thereunto also is annexed an answere vnto certeine vaine, and friuolous exceptions, taken to his former challenge, and to a certeine worthlesse pamphlet lately set out by some poore disciple of Antichrist, and entituled, A detection of diuers notable vntrueths, contradictions, corruptions, and falsifications gathered out of M. Sutcliffes new challenge, &c. Sutcliffe, Matthew, 1550?-1629.; Sutcliffe, Matthew, 1550?-1629. Briefe replie to a certaine odious and slanderous libel. 1602 (1602) STC 23454; ESTC S117867 337,059 440

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most vnwoorthy to possesse land and office that will not serue her Maiestie by whose fauour and clemency they enioy their lands and offices against the Spaniard or other forren enemy that séeketh to depriue both vs and them percase of lands liuing and life It may be that some papists will not beléeue this to be true of the masse priests and their adherents but if they list to read and sée what the secular priests confesse in their treatise of important considerations they will change their opinions argument 5 Howsoeuer they iudge of this point yet they will not deny that it is treason to adhere to forren enemies In the statute of 25. of Edward the third chap. 2. those that adhere to the kings enemies are adiudged traitors By the u El fuero real tit de la guarda del rey lawes of Spaine likewise it is made treason to ioine with the enemie and to yeeld him succour or helpe by any meanes and the like we may gather out of the Roman lawes ad legem Iuliam maiestatis l. 1. Finally reason may teach vs that they can not be our friends that adhere to our enemies and ioine with them but the masse priests and all that haue dealt hitherto in the popes and Spaniards cause haue adhered to forren foes and to the publike and professed enemies of her Maiesty and this state for first it is apparent that the Pope and Spaniard are publike enemies of the prince state Hostes ij sunt saith x ff de verborum signific l. hostes Pomponius qui nobis aut quibus nos publicè bellum decreuimus that is they are publike enemies either which make warres on vs or vpon whom we make warres The Gréeks of the word 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that signifieth warre doe call enemies 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which sheweth them to be enemies properly that make warres vpon vs. But the Pope and Spaniard from the yéere 1569. haue not ceased to make warres against the English nation Pope Pius the fift hauing a determination to recouer his authority in England and that rather by the sword than as Peter did gaine men by the word stirred vp Philip king of Spaine to ioine with him against our nation both of them sent money to aide the Northren rebels anno 1569. and were determined to haue sent an army into England vnder the conduct of the duke of Alua had not the practise of the rebels béene discouered and had not the rebellion béene suppressed before the succors came to them y Manolessa The Pope also afterward set vp the duke of Norfolke and sent him mony and encouraged him with great promises to execute his sentence and both these points are prooued not onely by the testimony of the letters of Pius Quintus as they are recorded by him that set out the report of his life but also by the testimony of the secular priests in their treatise called important considerations About the yeere 1578. Stukelcy was by the Pope furnished with money and souldiers to make some enterprise in Ireland and had done somewhat if Gods iudgements had not turned him into Barbarie where he made his end correspondent to his life That string being broken Sanders was sent as agent for the Pope to raise a rebellion in Ireland and not long after the Pope sent certeine forces into the same countrey that openly z Let Parsons shew that euer S. Peter did the like displaied his banners against her Maiestie and the English nation Anno 1588. both the Spaniards and Popes fléet came with fire and sword against England The duke of Parma likewise prouided great land forces against vs in the Low-countreys An. 1597. 1598. the Adelantado of Spaine set foorth twise or thrise from Corona with an intention to descend in the port of Falmouth and to take that countrey And lately Don Juan d'Aquila was sent with diuers regiments for the conquest of Ireland Likewise we for our defence haue since made some attempts against the Spaniard in Spaine in the Indiaes and in the Low-countreys And most of these matters are publikely knowen and can not be denied by the aduersarses themselues The secular priests confesse most of these things in their treatise of important considerations It can not therefore be denied but that both the Pope and the Spaniard are publike enemies of her Maiestie and the state The like may be said of Henry the 2. the French king during the warres in Scotland in the beginning of her Maiesties reigne and of the duke of Guise the duke of Alua the prince of Parma and others that at seuerall times haue done hostile acts against her Maiesty and the English nation Likewise it is a thing very manifest that all our masse-priests and their partakers and consorts haue adhered to the king of Spaine to the pope and to other forren enemies Vpon the first comming of the Quéene to the crowne diuers fled to the French king who pretending a right to the crowne of England for his daughter in law the Quéene of Scots proclaimed her in Paris Queene of England and Ireland not without the consent of some traitorous English as it séemeth Mortua Maria saith a De schi● li. 3. Sanders Henricus Galliarum rex c. nurum suam Scotorum reginam Henrici octaui proneptim parisijs pro concione Angliae Hiberniae reginam declarandam curauit he sent also forces into Scotland to second his claime which no man may surmise he would haue done but that he was promised a party in England that the seminaries of Doway and Rome adhere to the pope and Spaniard it cannot be denied for of them they haue their maintenance and when the priests of the seminaries are déepely rooted in the grounds of vnnaturall disloialty and treason abroad they come with commission and meanes from them two home into England thirdly Sanders was sent by the pope as his legat into Ireland and both he and his consorts that were sent vpon that businesse were furnished with meanes from the pope and did wholly depend vpon him and on the king of Spaine fourthly it appeareth that the priests held the pope for the chiefe lord and did not so much as vouchsafe to call Elizabeth the Queene of England their Quéene petatur à summo domino nostro say Parsons and Campian in their faculties explicatio bullae declaratoriae contra Elizabetham ei adhaerentes let vs beseech say they our most high lord the pope to make an exposition of the bull against Elizaberh and all that adhere vnto her so it appeareth that they declare themselues opposite to the Quéene and all her true subiects and that they adhere to the pope it may out of that facultie also be gathered that all papists adhere to the pope for that these two prouide for them onely and exclude all the Quéenes subiects for the papists whom those two traitors call catholikes desire that the popes bull may binde
those that haue beene destroyed by this change of religion A most shamelesse and palpable vntruth For not religion or any alteration therein but the malice of the Pope and wicked practises of Iesuites and there consorts haue caused most of these troubles The rest haue happened vpon other accidentes By the Popes secret practises and Charles the 9. his great disloyalty many thousandes of innocentes were massacred in France the yeare of our Lord 1572. by the working of Claude Matthieu a Iesuite and others his consortes that league was made which brought infinit calamities to the people and kingedome of France Paule the third stirred vp warres against the princes of Germany P●us the fift was the firebrand that inflamed the Northren rebellion in England Sanders the Popes legat was the originall cause of the destruction of the earle of Desmond And happie had the late Quéene of Scots beene if shée had not béene to credulous to beléeue Sammier and other seditions Iesuites entisinge words and promises the attempt of Spaniardes against England anno 1588 was set forward by Frier Sixtus quintus at the solicitation of Robert Parsons and his fellowes albeit here he would gladly discharge himselfe and lay the fault vpon others the Iesuites were the causes of the destruction of the Duke of Guise of Henry the french King that was murdered by Iames Clement of the Duke of Parma of the discontentment of the Prince of Transiluania neither was the losse of Sebastian King of Portugal of his whole army his estate to be ascribed to any other thē to the wicked counsaile of the Iesuites which gouerned him wholy and drue him into that action they haue also brought the King to Poland in danger to loose his kingdome of Suethland and caused the ouerthrow of Ferdinand of Croatia by the Turkes and finally both haue they ruined as many as haue harkened to their turbulent counsels and will they ruine as many as will be guided by them And this is not only proued by experience but also testified by diuers records and bookes in England and France of late set out by men of their owne religion The diuisions certes which they haue caused in the emperors army in Hungary haue wrought many calamities to christendome falsification 5 In the same encounter he saith that before the late alteration of religion there was one forme of seruice one number of Sacraments one tongue one Sacrifice one heade of the Church throughout all christendome but in my reply pag. 19. I haue shewed that this shorte sentence containeth the truth haue respected temporal commodity or as if we did not vrge them with the truth of apostolicall doctrine and the ancient christian faith falsification 38 In the preface of his directory fol. 13. p. 2 he saith that S. Ambrose S. Augustine S. Gregory S. Bernard perswade men by their examples to be afraid of purgatory A fourfold lye for neither did S. Ambrose nor any of the rest speake of a purgatory wherein christians did satisfie for the temporall punishment of sins remitted in earth nor did they beléeue any such purgatory Whatsoeuer they held of another purgatory viz. for veniall sinnes yet false it is that they perswaded men to be afraid of it by their examples falsification 39 In his directory lib. 1. p. 42. he saith that the world knoweth that Socrates was put to death for i●sting at the multitude of gods among the gentiles a matter which the world knoweth to be a lie and is refuted by Plato al that write of his death falsification 40 In the same place he saith Plato was wont to report of Zeno the stoike that he should say that either there was one God or no God but the record of the report will not be found Further if Plato liued before Zeno it was not like that he should prophecy what Zeno would say These lyes certes being the grounds of Parsons proofes where he goeth about to shew that there is a God are rather like to make a gentile or heathen mā obstinate then to make him beléeue in one God falsification 41 Pag. 174. he telleth that the number of infants slaine at Bethlehem was 14. thousand and this he goeth about to proue by the greeke calendar and the liturgy of the Aethiopians but such fables as he bringeth doe rather discredit christian religion then prooue it We beléeue that Herod killed the yoong children in Bethlehem and thereabouts but so many as 14. M. could not be found in that quarter as is very likely falsification 42 Pag. 269. he saith that Philo the Iew doth set forth strange things in the life and exercises of S. Marke and of his disciples that liued in Alexandria But if Philo in his booke de vit contēplat do neither speake of S. Marke nor his disciples in Alexandria I hope that Parsons disciples will be ashamed of their masters ignorance and confesse that he hath lyed It were an easie matter to set downe infinit lyes of this lying compagnion whoe without lying is not able to speak any thing as his consorts the seculer priests say but when he hath cleared himselfe of these he shall haue twise so many more obiected against him and drawne out of his simple writings In the meane while it may appeare that neither he nor his disciple Owlyglasse had any great reason to challenge the combat of vs for falsifications and lyes CHAP. XI That Owlyglasse himselfe hath falsified diuers authors and allegations in his little lewd Pamplet wherein he chargeth others with falsifications IS it possible thinke you to worke somewhat out of nothing certes no. Strange therefore it may seeme vnto you that I endeuour out of this small Pamphlet that is as nothing to make something Yet if you please to consider the particulers ensuing you shall finde that in this trifling discourse of the woodden detector wherein he hath shewed neither witte learning nor honesty nor any good thing that there are diuers points contained that may conuince him both to bee a falsary and a false lying compagnion falsification 1 Out of Origen pag. 11. c. 2. he citeth these words qui renascitur debet sale saliri Homil. 6. in Ezech. But the fathers words are these oportet ergo eum qui renascitur vtique in Christo renascentem rationabile sincerum lac desiderare prius quam rationabile sine dolo lac desideret debet sale saliri pannorum inuolucris colligari ne dicatur ad eum sale non es salitus pannis non es inuolutus So then by this it appeareth that he cutteth away the words in the midst and leaueth out the words in the end of the sentence and the maliciously to serue his purpose for otherwise it would haue appeared that Oregin spoke allegorically or that al children and others that are to be baptized must as well drinke milke and be lapped in cloutes as salted or touched with salt falsification 2 In his preface he abuseth