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A55033	Scripture and reason pleaded for defensive armes: or The whole controversie about subjects taking up armes Wherein besides other pamphlets, an answer is punctually directed to Dr. Fernes booke, entituled, Resolving of conscience, &c. The scriptures alleadged are fully satisfied. The rationall discourses are weighed in the ballance of right reason. Matters of fact concerning the present differences, are examined. Published by divers reverend and learned divines. It is this fourteenth day of Aprill, 1643. ordered by the Committee of the House of Commons in Parliament concerning printing, that this booke, entituled Scripture and reason pleaded for defensive armes, be printed by Iohn Bellamy and Ralph Smith. John White.	Palmer, Herbert, 1601-1647.; England and Wales. Parliament. House of Commons.	1643 (1643)	Wing P244; ESTC R206836	105,277	84

or Priest or Jesuit according to his place even sentence of death if he could not avoid● it Onely with two cautions 1. That he should be as favourable as was possible 2. That he should give timely Intelligence of any severe sentence Let now charity judge what circumspection almost can suffice against such a generation of Men Or what jealousie can be too much of them that still professe this treacherous Religion And yet all this notwithstanding at last to have even professed Papists taken in against the Parliament Can this be without a designe in them that have counselled the King to it Was it not in a prudent fore-sight that they should be cal'd and admitted to helpe that the Papists have no where been plundered by the Kings Army though others have who held not with the Parliament 8. As for Ziba David knew not his treachery at the first and his lyes had so blasted honest-hearted Mephibosheth that it appeares David did scarcely beleeve his apology for himselfe Otherwise what ever may now be said of his credulous charity to Ziba to the prejudice of one that was not present to answer for himselfe it was none of Davids good deeds to be imitated to recompence a flattering Sycophant that had brought him a present in a hard time indeed with so large a share in Mephibosheths estate When by the Law of God he was to dye for his false accusation of Treason as Mephibosheth had deserved death had it been true But now our Papists are knowne to be Enemies to the Parliament as was said before and some of their Party in the Country sticke not to say that the Parliaments Intentions of rigour against them already shewed by the executing of so many Priests and Jesuites Men of tender consciences is one part of the Court-quarrell against them They are more like Doeg then Ziba who first accused the Priests and then readily undertooke the execution of a most cruell sentence and executed it with all cruelty But Psal 52. Reades their doome And Psal 54.4 Sutes the Ziphims too those of Davids owne Tribe that came and discovered him to Saul 1 Sa. 23.26 once and againe and so incensed him afresh against him Though Saul blesses them 1 Sa. 23.21 as his speciall good subjects that had compassion of him Conscience must now judge whether the Papists being favoured were any cause of the resistance now made or only the resistance now ●●de was the cause that they were admitted to helpe the King in his distresse 9. But for the D ● to honour them with the Title of good subjects preferring them before the Parliament and so great a part of the Kingdome as visibly adhere to them is one of the highest reproaches that ever was belcht out against them enough for a Jesuite or a Pope to have said But the Dr. how ever he pretend modesty oft-times and respect to the Parliament stabbs them as desperately as any enemy could doe now and then While he seemes also resolved to justifie all that hath been done against them else he would have been silent in this peece and the next that followes about Ireland 10. In the meane time because he upbraids with a scandall that this resistance brings on our Religion which saith he would not be easily wiped of were it to stand or fall by the doctrines of this giddy age I must needs make bold to tell him that he forgets himselfe strangely and the Doctrines and practises of our Religion when he can scarce name that Country where there are any Protestants that have not taken Armes to defend Laws and Liberties and with them Religion even though not before allowed by Laws Sweden Germany France The low Countries Bohemiah Scotland And did not Q. Elizabeth of blessed memory assist them in France Holland and Scotland and K. James Holland and at least owned the cause of the French though he only sent Ambassadours and K. Charles did send to aide Rochel as I noted before and ownes the Prince of Orange sufficiently who yet is Rebell Generall against the K. of Spain if our Parliaments resistance be Rebellion Indeed we in England are the last and above all other Nations have been by the Court Doctors within this 40 Yeares much prepared to suffer any thing rather then resist Yet Bishop Bilson in the Queens time was suffered to averre that the States of a Kingdome might resist vide But it now above all other times greeves that we offer to doe what all others have done before us upon a great deale lesse Authority considering our Parliament continued by Act and its power granted by the King as I have noted before against all delinquents For if they could have subdued and swallowed us up the other Protestants in other Countreyes would much more easily have been devoured 4. The last Allegation is concerning the businesses of Ireland Of which because the Dr. saith the King hath written enough he had done wisely to have written nothing but that word Though I have not yet been so happy who would be glad to see it to meet with any Answer to the last Peece of the House of Commons which reckons so many particulars of wrong done to that poore Kingdom● Therefore till I meete with that I must needs tell the Dr. he saith not enough to cleare the businesse nor the Kings Councellours in that businesse For whereas his whole defence is ●in a word that the Kings necessity made it lawfull to make use of any thing intended for their releefe which he parallels by the Necessity that excused the Scots comming in hither To this divers things may and must be replyed 1. The Scots are no parallell for this carriage toward Ireland Their coming what ever the Dr. affirmes brought no such great detriment to the Inhabitants there if you except their professed enemies Papists and Prelates as the poore Souldiers and other Protestants of Ireland have suffered by the actions done concerning them 2. The King and Parliament have justified by Act of Parliament their coming as necessitated Yet they were proclaimed Traitours againe and againe and it was counted necessary to make War against them one yeare and a second as now against the Parliament The necessity then that is now pretended by the Kings party wants a great deale of the justification that the Scots have had before all the world specially remembring all that was noted before of the doings of the Kings followers before ever the Parliament did any thing but Petition 3. Which necessity by them pretended if it appeare a necessity by themselves made will it not make their actions concerning Ireland more horrid and proclaime the designe to be more rooted 4. But it must by no means be forgotten what hath been pretended for Ireland to which these actions are most contrary 1. When the King rode Northward and the Parliament more then once represented that it would greatly prejudice Ireland The King protested still it should not but he would be as

in maintaining that of May. 26. do professe to be unlawfull 2. If hee meane deposition of the King or which is more change of the Monarchy into Aristocracy or Democracy I deny that this may proceed necessarily or Rationally from a necessary defence unlesse the Dr. will undertake to prove that the state by no resistance or defence can bee safe without deposing their King or taking away Monarchs which hee neither will nor can as I durst undertake against him if that were now the Qu in hand which I hope shall never be Though sure there is no such temptation to it as to see Tyranny acted and all sober necessary defence cryed out upon as Rebellion all bloodshed in such defence murther and the end of it damnation And when Religion if ever it should bee is onely laid wast by the countenance of such doctrines improved as the Jesuite Advised then if a people should be greatly oppressed in their Civill liberty there might be some danger they would deny the Drs. grounds and all their allegiance and respect to Monarchy together And I dare be bold to say it Monarchy never received such a blow since States were as the Counsellors of Princes and Court-Chaplaines have provoked men to give it Because Kings must be absolute and People meer slaves formerly in doing and now in suffering 2 He saies This power of resistance when used and pursued is accompanied with the evills of a Civill Warr c. Reply 1. Whose fault is that Suppose the people that is a great many Papists would rebell unlesse the King and Parliament would subvert Religion and bring in popery and take away all the Lawes that displeased them must they doe this to avoid the evills of a Civill Warre and if not then neither must the Parliament or People sacrifice Religion Lawes and Libertie to the feare or danger of a Civill Warre No war so bad as the Parisian massacre or that of Ireland The King of France commanded the one the Irish people the Rebells acted the other In a Civill warre wee may save something and after recover all Under a Tyrannie not to be resisted we have nothing have lost Religion Laws and Liberties and have neither goods nor Lives Wives nor Children that we are sure of a day to an end He that rationally preferres such a Tyranny before a civill War surely hopes upon some speciall grounds that Tyranny will be none to him who pleads so well for it's indempnity but rather an advancement to him much good may it doe him 3 He saith the people may be discontented even with the Parliament and so it will come to ●ade and Tyler and overthrow all government Reply 1. I have satisfied this Objection for the maine of it already 1. That it is lawfull for the people to resist even the Tyranny of a Parliament when altogether outrageous as in our Quest●on not else 2. That the principles of defence cannot be drawne to a necessary change of the Government Of which I adde 2. Reasons One that the defence will suffice without it if wisely managed to secure the safety of the State and Religion so morally For still men some or other must be trusted and those that discredit themselves a while may merit a trust againe afterward Enough for their honour and comfort and not too much for the Common-wealth and they need not be trusted as before till they do merit a trust againe And yet no opposition much lesse change of government 3. The next government suppose each shire as the Dr. talkes a Common-wealth and all governed by a Folkmoot is still liable in all reason to mischiefes as bad or worse then were in that goverment rejected And this they among the people that are not growne barbarous and bruitish by suffering Tyranny and losse of Religion and Liberties by the Drs principles may be made so sensible of that they will never offer to attempt such a madnesse 3. Make a people Religious as much as man can make them and let them enjoy the comfort of doing that which is good as St Paul speakes of Rulers praising such And then the Rulers need not feare the multitude of them though some will ever be wicked that they will Rebell and change the Government The People indeed by Absaloms flattery Rebelled against David a righteous and just Ruler But there was more then ordinary in that GOD threatened it to him for his adultery and murther They did not so to the great Reformers Asa Iehosaphat Hezekiah Iosiah specially yet questionlesse they 2. offended very many for the Princes and People as I noted before on a speciall occasion were very bad even in their times Some Papists as did rebell against King Edward the 6. and some against Queen Elizabeth But both soon and easily subdued GOD will not suffer a just Prince or State to be troden under foot David was humbred not overthrown and men will still be found to take thei● parts As then St. ●aul bids Christians doing that which is good not feare the powers he exhorts to submit to and not to resist that is legally ruling by Civill laws under God So I may say to Rulers Kings and Parliaments doing well Ruling according to GODS Ordinances they need not feare the power of Resisting Tyranny in the peoples hands which I say againe Though people have often used it and prevailed against Tyrannous Governors yet never did they prevaile against Just Rulers to Depose them or much lesse alter the Government Tyranny then helped forward now by the Doctors Principles will be onely that that in a despaire will drive People to Cantoning and Folkmoots if any thing will and not at all our Position of a sober necessary Defence The Reasons that the Dr. hath brought againh Resistance are so far from being the Apostles Insinuations that they are wholly unsufficient to discredit it with Reasonable and unpartiall Men to whom next under GOD we Appeale His conclusion Ergo repeating that because some must be trusted therfore Ergo the K is still I must tell him most unreasonable when his case supposes he will not discharge his trust but is bent to subvert Religion Laws and Liberties So perpeatually the Dr. doth or will forget the State of the Qu. The King ought ordinarily to be trusted and a just King a David is worth 10000. nay 100000. of us his Subjects but the will and Lust of such a Tyrant as the Qu. speakes of is not to be satisfied upon one Ionathan or Naboth the meanest of those thousands yet it must be if he must still be trusted when he is bent upon extreame Tyranny What the Dr alleadges further of the Oathes of Allegeance and Supremacy and the late Protestation prejudices not defensive Resistance no more then Scripture and Reason hath done The Oathes of Allegeance and Supremacy are onely to the Kings Legall power and Authority which no man disputes against The Protestation is to defend as far as lawfully I may according

tell shewed the Kings hand for to have had Hull and the Magazine delivered up to him And all this before the setling of the Militia by an Ordinance or Sir Iohn Hothams taking in Forces to keep Hull safe Let Conscience now judge whether all this gave not just occasion for a preparation for Defence and of a long time after this nothing more was done the Militia setled in very ●ew Countries till the Kings proceedings hath further warned them ●o stand upon their guard in other places besides London It is true the King for a time had nothing but Proclamations and Declarations to oppose them But after he was once gone Northward and the Qu. beyond Sea what did hee ever doe or say but in opposition to them and while his Declarations renounced all thoughts of Warre notes were sent over into Holland for Armes and a beginning of an Army raised at Yorke under the name of a Guard When first the Houses having petitioned the Removing the Magazine at Hull to London Upon a counter-Petition of a very few Gentlemen of Yorkshire pretending the name of the whole County that it might be kept cleare still the King goes instantly to Hull and demands entrance intending as he declares to the Parliament after that he meant so to doe to take possession of the Towne and Magazine and dispose of it and being denyed proclaimes Sir Iohn Hotham Traitor without any processe of Law or sending first to the House to know if they would owne it and after demands justice so peremptorily as to deny before hand all other businesses but that of Ireland and how well that was done we must remember anon and then was the Army raised under Colour of a Guard the Yorkshire men not comming in readily enough to make it appeare a great Army And all this before ever it was declared by the Houses that the King seduced by wicked Councell intended to make war against his Parliament and so before ever they set out the Propositions for Money Plate Horses and therefore certainly before any one man was listed In all which the event hath shewed that they were rather in wisdome too slow then in conscience too quick in their Preparations for defence Remembring also that as soone as the Ship Providence was come to them a provdence indeed to discover what was before intended the Siege was straight ●aid to Hu● and the Declarations then spoke another Language then common men understood them to speake before For after all the Lords present with the King had subscrib●d about Iune 16. that they saw in the pretented Guard c. no intention of Warre against the Parliament within few dayes the King tels them that if to seeke to recover Hull and the Magazine then at London and suppresse the Militia in all which the Parliament was engaged as much as could be were to make Warre against the Parliament he ever meant to doe these things and had ever declared so though I beleeve none that beleeved him did or could so understand Let Conscience now judge who began first As touching the cause of these Armes the Doctor would perswade us that it is for somthing which the King hath right to Deny To evince which he first affirmes that it cannot be for Religion or Priviledges and ancient Rights and Liberties for these the King doth not deny REPL. But now sufficient verball promises with such actions done as were noted even now are to secure Religion or the State Conscience must judge and it may a little the better when we come to consider them againe in the proper place for them for here they outrunne their season like Abortives in the next Section Secondly he saith it must then be for denying the Militia the disposing offices of State and such like also the government of the Church and the revenue of it and for not denying his power of denying in Parliament REPL. 1. For the Militia I referre to what hath beene said how just reason the Parliament had to petition the securing it and after to settle it as in case of necessity by Ordinance Of which their Declarations have given more full account 2. For disposing Offices of State it was never desired till the difference was very farre advanced and Hull attempted and Sir Iohn Hotham proclaimed Traitour and the Army raised at Yorke called a Guard And so onely desired as a Security after such a breach and no way a cause of the breach Thirdly For the Kings power of denying it was never in question betweene him and them till the Militia was absolutely and peremptorily denyed And in all their Declarations they never take it away but contrarily in the defence of that May 26. they grant that though the King be bound by Oath and care of his people not to deny any Bill for generall safety and good for in ordinary matters they yeeld he may deny Yet if he doe deny it is no Law without him Onely in case of the common safety they say the two Houses may doe what is necessary and it binds the Subjects for that necessity though he doe deny The denyall then of the Militia only in the case of necessity with other things noted before forced them to doe what they did toward Armes and not any difference about a power of deniall in generall 4. For the government and Revenue of the Church I beleeve indeed it was a part of the cause of taking Armes but not on the Parliaments part the major part of whom in either House never till very lately declared nor shewed any purpose of taking either away quite but only reforming which the Doctor saith his Majesty is alway ready to agree as may appeare even by the great agitations for so long in the House of Commons of the Bill against Episcopacy root and branch and at last it was wholly laid aside which shewes the major part never owned it as their delight Else they would first have absolutely concluded the destructive part and then consulted what to have in the roome B●t to consult first for Successours was Pacuvius his Policy to preserve the Senatours of Capua though he made shew to condemne them all And had the Commons past the Bill against them yet did the Lords never shew any such intendment who were not easily wonne to take away their Votes till their Protestation against both Houses in their absence helped to perswade them to it It can then no way appeare to Conscience that ever the Parliament had thoughts of Armes to obtaine their taking away But I am verily perswaded by all I could ever heare from the Episcopall Party that their feare of this made them who had still enough of the Kings eare and heart urge the King to many Actions which have helped the Warre forward Among the rest I cannot but note one not a weeke passed betweene the 12. Bishops for their Protestation before the King first accused of high Treason the L. Kimbol●on and the other five

needs be done to understanding and vigilant Consciences is but to awaken their memories and send them to their Almanacks as the Dr. speakes or their Memorialls and apply them a little to their hands and hearts To that then the Dr. saith may be replyed first that there was need of setling the Militia When once both Houses petitioned it the King himselfe acknowledged it Yet it was opposed a while by some in both Houses but the Petition was not consented to at the first by the House of Lords No marvell there were Popish and Popishly affected Lords whose designe at least to keep Popery among us still and in some of them no doubt to advance it by the ruine of this Parliament would have been hindred or spoiled by the setling it No marvell then such opposed it who also as was noted before opposed the succours of Ireland till all the Kingdome almost cried out upon them and it with whom joyned to their great Honour at lest the most if not all the Bishops present usually Only once as I remember for Irelands businesse there were two or three Bishops consenting But when once those were outed and the Popish and popishly affected w●thdrawn● even before some of them withdrew all Votes passed for the Militia as now it is Let consciences now judge whether ought to be stuck to those that were for it or those against it Secondly it is altogether false that a greater number of the House of Commons have declared against the proceedings then have been there and voted their continuance About 6● and not many more have been cast out for their notorious malignancy and many of them for Actuall Warre against the Parliament But there was ever the Major part for the Militia and so for the consequent proceedings Else as I said before why came not the Maior part to out vote them and set all Right Let Conscience judge The next thing the D● would prove is that the Parliament is not upon the Defensive and then that they keep within the Defensive In the first he puts two questions who was fi●st in Armes and what is the cause of the Armes In answering the former because he speakes of an Almanack I must remember him and he seemes onely to thinke of 1642. But 1641. must not be forgotten nor throwne aside as out of date There we finde first a memorandum of the Northerne Army intended to bee brought up against the Parliament By the good then the chiefe Actors and proiectours of it sled beyond Sea in all haste after once the Portugall Ambassadour had disclaimed to Mr. Wadsworth that he knew Sir Iohn Suckling or had any Commission to desire Forces from the King for his Mrs. Service who yet listed and payed diverse Officers and others and gave ou● that he was to goe into Portugall with three or 400. Secondly there we find a Memorandum of a great Lord that said when the Scots were once gone they would teach the House of Commons better manners who now did what the list or to this effect Thirdly there we fi●nde a Memorandum that about one and the same time there was first a strange businesse GOD will in due time cleare it in Scotland and Secondly the Popish Rebellion brake forth in Ireland and thirdly the Parliament was many wayes threatned in England by Libells of severall kinds Quaeres whether any Acts passed while two Armies were in the Kingdome were valid Relations of Plots against prime Members many intelligence of warning from forraine parts Fourthly there we find a Memorandum of the Irish Rebells boastings of their Partie here threatning to invade the Kingdome 5. There we finde a Memorandum that the King brought Winter with him out of Scotland as he went thither in a kind of storme against the earnest advise of both Houses and after a severe speech made by the Lord keeper in his name and presence all clouds and never a Sun shine day all the yeare after The priviledges of Parliament infringed in two or three things are the two Houses declared to him by a Petition of Decem 1.14 The Parliament guards dismissed and a new one denied though they desired to trust the then Lord Chamberlaine of the Kings House but another was offered to be put upon them under the Command of the Lord Chamberlaine of the Queens House All these Memorandums the Almanak of 1641. affords which all put together make some what toward ●he necessitie of a preparation for Defence at least by petitioning for the Militia to be setled Etsi non placent singula juncta juvant But now no sooner doth our Almanack of 1642. appeare but first it presently presents us with the accusation of the 6. Members and secondly straight after with the Kings comming to the House of Commons to demand the five Members of the House The carriage of which businesse by the Kings Attendants if any one will be ignorant of let him be so Res ipsa loquitur the thing it selfe was so in the sight of the Sunne as was uncapable of a mistake yet did an Answer to a Petition of the Maj●r and Aldermen of the City upon the occasion of a few dayes after say that the King had no other Attendants but onely Gentlemen armed with their Swords Thirdly about a week aft●r the King withdrawes to Hampton-Court and never returned to the Parliament since nor ever passed any Bill save that against Bishops Votes and two or three about Ireland of which what the Lord Digby said to the Cavaliers that came to the House of Commons and how he behaved himselfe at Kingstone upon Thames the Parliament hath sufficiently declared and in their Defence of their Remonstrance of May 26. have shewed that it is evident he did so carry himselfe though it have beene denyed Fourthly his Letter after he was fled to the Queen and another to Sir Lewes Dives counselling the King to retire to some strong place on which the Attempt on Hull hath made an unhappy Comment and another since that surprised written to the Queene signifying what Counsell he gave the King in a Letter about that time which hath been ever since followed Fiftly the Militia denyed for Cities and Corporations upon pretence of a Petition from the City of London contrived by Binion and some few others which was of the greatest consequence for the Parliaments safety and to keep out forraine Forces and this when the Houses thought the King had granted it the meane while the Queen goes for Holland in a strange season of the yeare and on a small occasion the Parliament having the yeare before given Reasons against her offering to goe beyond Sea upon another pretence and how she hath done since her going over is too well knowne Finally the Earle of Newcastle in a disguised habit and Name and Captaine Legge two persons that were named in the businesse of bringing up the Northern Armes came to Hull and one of them I remember now not which but the Papers will

not to foresee that their very flying to Armes was and would be a great suffering and might prove if God should defeat them the meanes of extreame suffering A people so taught so enured to Passive obedience and no way enured to Warre could not be supposed willing or forward to engage themselves their purses or much lesse their Persons against the Name of their King and each day since the first Necessity hath continually sounded this out so that they had no reason to be forward to fly to Armes 3. By what I said on the former Section and added with the Petition by the E. of Holland even now mentioned It appeares they did not fly to Armes but fly from it as far as they could and durst 3. Wheras the Dr. often in this Section in the beginning middle and end insists mainly upon the breach of Charity in suspecting the King upon Remote feare and meere Jealousies causelesse Jealousies c. Repl. This may sufficiently be satisfied both in the behalfe of the Parliament and then of the People that adhere to them joyntly and singly For the Parliament and people both joyntly This may justly be said 1. The Dr. mistakes it is not simply a Jealousie of the King but rather of the Kings Councellors and Followers who find so much favour with him as they and others did before the Parliament against the Scots and us both and Ireland too witnesse all their heavy complaints against the Great Favourite Strafford that they are able to put him from time to time upon these Actions which his goodnesse of it selfe rightly informed and councelled would abhorre and hath so often declared against and yet Actions againe have discredited those declarations as the Memory of those that have been awake cannot forget both Referring to Religion and Liberties and the Parliament Remonstrances do amply set out besids other Books If therfore Security be once obtained against such persons I am perswaded the King will be no more suspected and in the meane time it must be a strange Charity that can chuse but suspect them 2. Where the danger is of much importance both for Greatnesse of Mischiefe and Inevitablenesse according to Man if not timely prevented Charity to ourselves and others will not onely allow but commend and even command to suspect and accordingly prevent such dangers by suspecting Persons and Actions which in lesser matters they would and might and should venture to trust Fire neere straw or Gunpowder is to be suspected more then neere hard wood Hedge-breakers and breakers of Houses are not equally to be suspected Religion Laws and Liberties are precious things and may be sooner lost then recovered And his Charity hath drunk of the water of Lethe that forgets these were lately attempted and endangered The Kings own Declarations acknowledge Laws and Liberties have been broken And how since the E. of Straffo●ds death all the old Projectors are become Converts is too hard a morsell for Charity to swallow when it must hazard such deare things to many of the same Persons againe Specially seeing still what they have done since the first sitting of the Parliam toward their old Projects as hath been partly noted already and somewhat more must be said by and by Next for the Parliament alone They are the great Councell of the Kingdome the publique Watch-men the Highest Court of Judicature it concerns them therfore to exercise their Charity for the safety of those that have trusted them Charity towards Attempters against a City is none of the Vertues of a Watchman nor toward Attempters of dangerous Treasons against a King and Kingdome the Vertue of a Judge Were they onely to loose their own Liberties or Lives their Charity might venture much further then now it may when they must Answer for Religion Laws and Liberties and so Lives and Consciences of a whole Kingdome of 2 Kingdomes England and Ireland as formerly of England and Scotland if not rather then and still of all 3. in a degree Who would not Curse their Charity detest their Folly if by their Credulity all this should be betrayed and ruined If Rhetorick needed in this cause no Subject could deserve it better then to cry down such a pernitious Charity as this would prove if they should be deceived with credulity And then for the People alone have they not a charity to exercise toward the Parliament as well as toward the Kings Followers whom have they trusted to be publike Watchmen the one or the other Whom hath the law trusted to be the great Councell and chief Judges the one or the other Who hath pleaded for their Liberties the one or the other 12. Subsidies were demanded with intent thereby to engage us in a bloody War against Scotland in the Parliament of Aprill 1640. Onely for taking away of Ship-money But this Parliament hath proved it so illegall and other things more that it was taken away without any cost at all by way of Exchange and many other happy Lawes hath the ●arliament passed and obtained for us But what one thing did the Kings former Counsellors move him to offer to his people by way of prevention for State or Religion in a whole yeer together To whom then must the People exercise their charity Must they condemn their watchmen as scaring them needlessely with Old Enemies discredit the law that saith No dishonourable thing ought to be thought of such a great Councell such a high Judicature And that when they more then ever any Parliament before give account to all men of all their Actions and the grounds of them Well shall that People deserve a ruine that believe Old Wolves rather then their faithfull Dogs then their Councell of Shepheards That shall thinke themselves bound to be charitable to those that have attempted their ruine and uncharitable to those that under God have hitherto saved them In a word let those that love Religion and Laws and Liberties compare the best actions on the one side with the best on the other and the worst on the one side with the worst on the other and then let charity judge if it dare or can the Parliament Fooles or Traytors to GOD and the KING and the STATE and the Kings followers the only wise men that have discovered their cunning Treachery and the only faithfull men to Religion his Majesty and Kingdome Take in then the Declarations and Protestations on the one side and on the other and remember is is not a single charity whether I shall suspect the King but first mixt whether I shall or may suspect the Kings followers who can doe any thing with him so farre as that they may doe contrary to what he saith and then a distinguishing charity whether I shall suspect them who were once most of them apparently Delinquents against Religion and the Laws Or the Publike Watchmen and the great Councell an Judicature of the Kingdom who have done so much and with such diligence to save and restore