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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A91933	Diapoliteia. A Christian concertation with Mr. Prin, Mr. Baxter, Mr. Harrington, for the true cause of the Commonvvealth. Or, An answer to Mr. Prin's (perditory) anatomy of the Republick, and his true and perfect narrative, &c. To Mr. Baxter's (purgatory) pills for the Army: and his wounding answer to the healing question. With some soft reflections upon his Catholick (or rather Cathulactick) key; and an examen of the late petition of the sixth of July to this Parliament. In all which we have a most necessary vindication of the cause; of the honourable persons now in Parliament and Council, from the venome and vilification of their pens. By Joh. Rogers, thorugh grace kept (under many sufferings) a faithful servant to Jesus Christ, his cause and the Commonwealth.	Rogers, John, 1627-1665?	1659 (1659)	Wing R1806; Thomason E995_25; ESTC R207812	125,898	138

having a Parliament being banished for many years and the ordinary discourse of the Courtiers then was against Parliaments as injurious to the Kings Prerogative This continued until Firebrands that had been kindling by it were laid together in Scotland and there began first to FLAME about the ears of the Clergy and their Liturgy An. 1637 8 and 9. The King raised an Army against them and notwithstanding the Pacification of 18 June 1639. he resolved to have War with the Scots told some Lords about him Decemb. following he would call a Parliament in England the noyse of which made the People amazed I so long had they been without it and so little expectation had they of it whiles the King sends his bosome and Cabinet-Counsellour Strafford into Ireland to call one there to raise him monies but on the 13th of April it was convened and on the 5th of May dissolved again and some of the Members vizt Sir John Hotham Mr. Crew Mr. Belliesis imprisoned the Lord Brooks Plundred and the King goes on with the War against the Scots until about 20. of the English Earls Lords and Barons Petitioned to him at York to call a Parliament that might continue until Grievances were redressed c. By which means and his unavoidable necessities together he could not help it but summon the Long Parliament who seeing the people so miserably robbed of their Rights drew up a Bill for triennial Parliaments which the King signed 15. Pebr. 1640. Also an Act of Parliament was passed by King Lords and Commons then in being That this Parliament shall not be dissolved without it be by Act of Parliament and the Ground is exprest in it viz. The fears jealoustes and apprehensions that His Majesties Subjects have that this present Parliament may be adjourned prorogued or dissolved before Iustice be executed Grievances redressed c. With what confidence then can Mr. B. put in such an ingredient and so dangerous a one to make up his first Pill or Prop. to purge the Army with and to scour their Consciences To his second Prop. It was not the old Cause for the People to have right to choose a House of Commons to exercise the whole soveraignty c. Answ And who saith it was I pray not the Healing Quest. I am sure neither do the Commonwealths-men say it that the people have any Right to choose any House of Commons at all seeing it is utterly inconsistent with the Free-State and principles of it to have any such House as a House of Commons and more to have them as such exercise the whole Soveraignty of the Nation But here he contends with himself alone As I have seen a Puppy play prettily with his own tail weary himself and lie down when he has done For to what purpose is this Pill of Fumitory unless to fetch away Melancholy Fumes and make us laugh a little at all their weakness and folly To his third Prop. It was none of the old cause to assert the peoples Soveraignty Answ But it was their old cause to assert their Rights I am sure both as men and as Christians and this is one the Healing Quest saith and a natural one which all the Adherents to this Cause against the King have recovered through mercy if they can but keep it viz. to keep the Primary power under God and Jesus Christ or the power of chusing their own Rulers into the Supreme trust And this was we find by a little Retrospection declared for both by Parliment and Army Act of Parl. March 17. 1648. St. Albans Remonstrance in the Scotish Declarations and a many others So that this his salt Pill of poly-podium will serve for nothing but to make a man cough complain or else to choak him quite To his fourth Prop. It was not the Cause to change the constitution of the Commonwealth into any other form of Government then what we found in it Answ What ever was the Cause that was the effect and an inevitable EFFECT of the Wars I am sure though I confess the CAUSE of it lay in my judgement more on the Kings part according to the Parliaments own words of 20. March 1642. That whensoever the King maketh War that it tendeth to the dissolution of his Government So that Sublatâ Causâ tollitur effectus had he not made the War he had not destroyed his Government it is like Nor doth this lay the Guilt of the bloud upon the Parliament as he pretends but upon the King and his evil Counsellours who destroyed him and his posterity as well as that Constitution of Government by it And albeit no one part had authority to destroy the other and set it self in the room of the whole as King to destroy the Commons or Commons the Lords and set it self up as HOUSE of COMMONS yet had they a Power to destroy one another and to kill themselves if they would as the King did and so consequently the Lords and then the House of Commons as the Commons-House which are all dissolved with that CONSTITUTION of GOVERNMENT by a Felo de se indeed 2. Nor is the Platform of King Lords and Commons the Fundamental Constitution but rather imposed upon the people as has been often proved by the learned in History And 3. Though this were not the ULTIMATE in our eye yet the Peoples Rights and properties which fell in naturally to them were in their eye ULTIMATELY and intentionally amongst other things of higher concernment viz. the Kingdom of Christ throughout the management of this cause Now where the people have the greatest propriety and interest to out-balance as it was in this cause they must naturally fall into that Balance which is in a Commonwealth and can fix for security and satisfaction in nothing less be it ever so beyond our first intentions or second But for my part I cannot find one word in the Healing Quest that saith it was our cause intentionally to alter that constitution though that effect was given in as a blessing supplement and success unto this cause but that we have a Right to a Civil incorporation and society distinct from that of the old constitution now dissolved by its self and it's inorable adherents So that as the CYNICK ran to the mark for fear the Archer should hit him when he shot at Rovers we may run to the Healing Quest and never fear that he will hit or hurt us or can come neer us for ought I see This is his fourth Pill as bitter as Aegrimony it may serve to make a body sick and to make him stare but not to cure or comfort him in the least His fifth Prop. is of the matter asserting the Parliaments Declaration for the Kings person Priviledges of Parliament c. which is fully answered in Mr. P's Cause stated and stunted p. 5 6 7 8 10 11. to the very same Declarations and

the FIRST PRINCIPLE for that they are neither found in the Efficient nor yet in the Material Formal nor Final Causes of such a Conjunction either as to Coition or Coalition and so are not capable of a Rejunction as Mr. P. and B. press it till we see a REJUNCTION in them also if the Armies Repentance reach to that And this I say Neither after the first intention of it as we use to say which is called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and must be the same in nature and in substance with the rest viz. Commonwealths-men All and not Kinglings any unless for Christ which they are not not yet after the second intention called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 exprest both in the colligation and obligation of such natural-united and well-disposed Members every one in his proper joynt place fitted and fixed for the service of the WHOLE which those Secluded Members would never take or if they had could never hold viz. to be true and faithful to the Commonwealth c. as it is now established without a King Single Person or House of Peers So that all they propose are real impossibilities both to Reason Art and Nature nor are they able to offer any MEDIVM HOMOGENEVM or sutable expedient to effect it i. e. in the due consistency with the State of the cause being and well-being of the Commonwealth Wherefore if the Lt. G. Fleetwood and the Army were pleased they might Anwer Mr. B. as once the Emperour Adrian did an old Courtier who came unto him for some preferment then void but the Emperour denyed it him within some few days after the Gent. with great Art trimmed himself put on a smooth face as it is now in fashion with a very youthful habit and so applied to the Emperour anew But Sir saith the Emperour not so not so I dare not I must not be so unjust to give that to the SON that I denyed to the FATHER but 3. or 4. days since and so we hope that neither the present Lenity future Acrimony nor deceitful Ideo-pathy or Sympathy of Mr. B's Physick no more then Mr. P's Antopathy or Antipathy can work upon the Army to be so unjust as to give that to those men that are the same though now new-trimmed and with the greatest Art they can too for Kingship which they denied them before fought against and resisted in the Scottish-War more especially when these men were more GRAVE in their fatherhoods and much more reverend a few years since So I leave Mr. P's first Demonstration of the Republicans CAUSE as he calls it in his two last Anatomy Lectures His second is as groundless as the first wherein from p. 40. to 69. of Narr he gives his first Lecture upon the living which only concerns the dead Anatomy As if the JESUITES formative faculty and designs which they had afoot in the days of the King and Kingdom had laid the Prolifick Project of this Government and so throughout his Anatomy of the Republicans Cause from p. 4. he would make us believe if we could be so besotted that the Commonwealth is a BASTARD of the Jesuites begetting Mr. B. seconds him we need not question telling us stories of Campanella Parsons WATSON c. and of their designs against King James and the Nation then about An. 1604. or 1605. So that the child lay longer in the Womb then that which ●o Albos●us tells us of that lay in the mothers Womb 28. years and then too it was turn'd into STONE Now with how little Weight of Reason or Judgement this is charged I shall refer to the Reader that hath any skill in the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 of Anatomy to judge upon their own Histories and grounds In Campanella 1. For CAMPANELLA the Italian Frier in his Monarch Hisp his Project was to promote an interest for the King of Spain against Q. Elizabeth and K. James and all his Politicks were calculated and suited to the state of the Nation at that time and in those days far different from what it was or is in ours which was not made for the interest of Spain but our own 2. Upon far different Grounds too viz. to make such discord amongst the English as might admit them no leasure to disturbe the Spanish to perswade the Parliament of the Kingdom in Q. Elizabeth days to cast her off and so fall into the form of a Commonwealth by this means to sow the seeds of an inexplicable and in expiable WAR between England and Scotland that if England should be turned into the forme of a Commonwealth the Kingdom of SCOTLAND might keep up continual Wars with the Commonwealth of England for it was never laid for BOTH to be a Commonwealth and so to manage all affairs so slowly as not to hurt the Spaniard if not to give him advantage and if a Commonwealth could not be effected then to make it an Elective Kingdom c. Now are these the grounds or the effects of our Free-State let any judge seeing the Friers plot was laid so as to keep up Scotland a Kingdom and distinct from England as well as England a Commonwealth or else it answered not the Popish design neither to incapacitate England from disturbing the Spaniard or defending our selves against them but in this Commonwealth it is no such matter we are Both one and in a far better capacity both for PRESERVATION and INCREASE to deal with an Enemy then under the King 3. The Friers ENDS were such as did as well correspond with a Kingdom Elective or any thing so that Q. Elizabeth King James and that Family were but routed or totally amoved but our ends in this Commonwealth are not such as can consist with or be answered in a Single Person or a Kingdom Elective and therefore cannot be the same which the Jesuites plotted if they plotted any for us But that is the thing which these Gent. must prove viz. that This this is The Commonwealth which Campanella plotted and not to ensnare us with a Homonymy or so to accuse the Commonwealth as the woman did Eustatius the Bishop for Whoredom with her being hired unto it by the Arrians and thereby had him banished until she was tormented with a judgement and then confess'd it was another Eustatius and not THIS 4. Though Campanella and the Papists would have been glad at their hearts at any Alteration either for Commonwealth or Kingdom Elective yet their 's proved an Abortment a meer 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and came to nothing or had any of their's by a Superfaetation or a new procreation came to maturity amongst us it must have been upon Grounds and Ends as far different from our's as West from East or North from South But Lastly Campanella and the Papists never intended a Common-wealth as the ULTIMATE but upon a design and to turn it back to a Single Person his own words are Tandem in Democratiam