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A69269
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The speech of the Lord Chancellor of England, in the Eschequer Chamber, touching the post-nati
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Egerton, Thomas, Sir, 1540?-1617.
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STC 7540.5; ESTC S100270
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angliae_fw-la be_v in_fw-la manu_fw-la domini_fw-la and_o cor_fw-la regis_fw-la scotiae_fw-la not_o so_o can_v there_o be_v war_n between_o the_o king_n of_o england_n and_o the_o king_n of_o scotland_n or_o between_o the_o kingdom_n of_o england_n and_o the_o kingdom_n of_o scotland_n so_o long_o as_o there_o be_v but_o one_o king_n can_v the_o king_n of_o england_n now_o send_v a_o army_n royal_a into_o scotland_n against_o the_o king_n of_o scotland_n can_v there_o be_v any_o letter_n of_o mark_n or_o reprisall_n now_o grant_v by_o the_o king_n of_o england_n against_o the_o subject_n of_o the_o king_n of_o scotland_n can_v there_o be_v any_o protection_n now_o quia_fw-la profecturus_fw-la in_o exercitu_fw-la jacobi_fw-la regis_fw-la angliae_fw-la in_o scotiam_fw-la nay_o short_o can_v any_o man_n be_v a_o true_a subject_n to_o king_n james_n as_o king_n of_o england_n and_o a_o traitor_n or_o rebel_n to_o king_n james_n as_o king_n of_o scotland_n shall_v a_o foot_n breadth_n or_o 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