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Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
war_n	england_n	king_n	scot_n	5,306	5	9.8558	5	true

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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A52751	The case of the kingdom stated according to the proper interests of the severall parties ingaged : I. Touching the interest of the King and his party, II. The interest of the Presbyterian party, III. The interest of the Independent party, IV. The interest of the citie of London, V. The interest of Scotland, not extant before now : a peece of rare observation and contexture, wherin all men are equally concerned.	Nedham, Marchamont, 1620-1678.	1647 (1647)	Wing N380; ESTC R40043	15,667	18

upon what ground and by whose meanes things were thus carried concluded then there was no way to get into the Nation but upon the ruine of our Bishops which must necessarily follow if they could introduce the Presbiteriall government which themselves had received in Scotland and this they found was no hard matter to effect since there were many that way affected in England and their affections highly inflamed by reason of the rigorous dealing and tyrannicall pride of some Clergy-men which rendred their whole Order and government odious to the more tender consciences prepared the people hood-winkt to entertain any change though to their own prejudice This being on the other side immediately resented by the Bishops they judged it best to be before-hand with the Scots and first to try their patience and Pick a quarrel on purpose to tame them by force a new Liturgie was contrived sent and imposed upon them the offer whereof bred so much indignation in the one party as a refusall did in the other both glad enough of the occasion that a war immediately ensued wherein though the King were ingaged on the Bishops part yet the Scots got most of Honour and the war being ended much money and reputation among their friends in England which so indeared them that a new rupture falling out betwixt King and Parliament they had an easie in-let to build themselves with high confidence a more sure interest than ever in this Nation which was accomplisht by the mutuall ingagement of the Parliaments of each Kingdom to other as brethren in the firm bond of a League and Covenant By which lant-skip of discourse it appeares as the Scots have now attained the pitch of their desires by a fast foot in the fat soyle of England through mutuall Covenanting which hath been long a contriving and earnestly struggled for so they ought to prosecute the Covenant the vitals of their hope with all due respect tendernesse and caution according to the rationall drift of it toward the people of England lest their proceedings become odious and themselves be kick'd off again with disdain and enmity Therefore I shall present them with a few considerations First let them be pleased to remember that the people look upon them but as inferiours and therefore must needs swell high with indignation if they busie themselves over-much in the affaires of England knowing in how high scorne it was taken that they should claime an interest as once they had the boldnesse to doe in their Papers given into the Parliament in disposals of matters meerly relating to our welfare And since all men know that though they were admitted to ingage here necessity so requiring it as equals and competitors in the same cause the Kingdomes being supposed equally involved in the same common danger yet were they indeed but Mercenaries in pay of the English Parliament who might have had Germans or Swissers at the same rate perhaps no more prejudice to the Country Secondly I must confesse it behoves the Scot predicant if possible to see Episcopacy cashiered root and branch and their owne form stated here in a sure succession that so a correspondence being cherished between Clergy of the same garb and humour in both Countries they may freely tosse thunder-bolts of excommunication on both sides to gratifie each other and so be able to terrifie all Lords and Gentry that dare be averse in either Kingdome and promote such onely to places of trust whose poorer spirits will vassallize their Birth and Genius to serve their ends And I confesse it behoves such great ones as have already link'd themselves in design with the Clergie to stick close to them a while for their owne credit and security except they can handsomly retreat with speed yet both English and Scotch Gentry of this gang may consider that such a course cannot stand long in England where being Myriads of more generous soules than in Scotland they must alwaies expect a flying out into any extrems that yeeld the least hope of an advantage to throw their riders Thirdly if the Scots plead conscience for extirping the Government by Bishops as bound thereto by Covenant yet seeing Bishop is every jot as wholsome a word and as much Scripturall as Presbyter and that our weaker Brethren in England are wedded to that Forme as more tolerable than any other and more sutable to the Lawes and Constitution of the Monarchie I suppose that the admission of a Bishop mortified regulated and pruned of his superfluities will no whit clash with the sense of the Covenant For it is plaine that the scope of it is not against Bishop in the Abstract but in the Concrete as laden with an accumulation of Deanes Deanes and Chapters Prebends Chancellours Commissaries c. though if these also were admitted again as I cannot see how they may be well refused yet the Scots for their part and those of their party here in England having endeavoured their utmost to extirp it they have done all that the Covenant requires though it be not effected But seeing most in England will not be content without it and nothing but another Conquest can force any other upon them me think rationall men should sit down content with a discharge of their consciences in having seriously endeavoured the extirping it to their power further then which the Covenant doth not binde them rather then aime at an impossibility in reason or venture a sad score upon conscience in imbroyling two Kingdomes again to an inevitable ruine of a third which can never be justified from Scripture in the behalf of Principles of Faith which are the substance of Religion much lesse upon point of Disciplin which is but the shadow Fourthly if a designe be followed to force their Government upon this Kingdome so generally detested by reasonable men the war cannot possibly bee long-liv'd here where the thing contended for is so ill befriended but must of necessity be translated toward Scotland where it had its Originall And though the Scots need not feare being valiant enough and having one advantage above all other men in possessing little that may invite men to a conquest yet it will be chastisement enough to be beaten home kept there from their usuall way of thriving by intercourse with England Fifthly since that their Presbyterie is more of the World and so like to be more troublesome to it than Episcopacy it will bee an occasion to the English to prye into the grounds of the Scots so earnest pressing that government upon them and finding by the Proeme of this particular draught which wise observing men cannot be ignorant of that wordly respects first made them bring it in hither the greater part of men here which are worldly will endeavour to preserve themselves against all such worldly incroachments under pretence of Religion and though it be presented in a new dresse call●d Reformation yet since it must prove no other than an Assassination of the Monarchie and a Reducing of the old Privado's which oppressed us at Court to overwh●lm us with new ones quite throughout the Kingdom it is like that the love of ●ingly Government so surely imprinted in this Nation and jealousie of Liberty will render men implacable to all that keep a hand in a rigid Presbyterie urge them to apply desperate remedies to be cured of it as the grand canker-worm of our English interest Sixthly to designe that upon a people which their constitutions will not beare ordinary Braines must conceive can have no ground in policie unlesse there be some certainty which way to master them and therfore the Scots and their favorites may do well to consider how they can go through stitch with the busines against a generous people impatient of the yoake It is not in England as in Scotland where men are poore and so the more easily inslaved and led about to serve the ends of the Grandees amongst them but being rich and sensible of their freedomes will entertain no more here from the perswasions of men than what they can make visible by reason as conducing to the generall good so that the ground-work of all actions must be laid according to the peoples inclination and not the faction of particular men be they never so potent in wealth or wisedome By this rule they may judge what their friends are able to doe for the Presbyterian cause in England Lastly since most men un-interrested that way are of a contrary mind I wish them to consider that if by striving against the streame they lose their hold now it can never be recovered again upon the same pretence and perhaps many ages will hardly afford the like and therefore if the Scots shall proceed to scrue themselves in by their engineers of the Clergy more Lordly already then the former to the oppression of Episcopall and * Loquor ad sensum vulgi Independent consciences and indeavour to found them with an Antichristian power upon the blood of both Countries by a new war the ancient Antipathy must needs revive and bee reared againe like Adrian's wall as a perpetuall Barr betwixt the Nations From whence I may conclude the case thus standing that the only interest of the Scots is to preserve themselves in the opinion of the people of England by a moderate and faire construction of the Covenant in behalfe of a Presbytery which being by Covenant to be judged according to the word of God they have the lesse reason to stand for their own way here because they take little besides the bare name of Presbytery out of the word and so having no pretence to found a quarrell but only upon some parcels of the letter of the Covenant I see no reason they have to be angry if the English give them leave to inioy their owne in peace at home and in the meane time take leave to settle things here for the good of this State in Church Government as they judge answerable to their principles according to the Word whereupon they apprehend the Covenant was first intended framed and founded And so the heat of controversie being laid by a brotherly condescension on both sides in matter of religious concernment the peace and union in all civill respects may be established and kept inviolable betwixt the Kingdoms Dirno aedifico muto quadrata rotundis FINIS