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A91211 The lyar confounded, or A briefe refutation of John Lilburnes miserably-mistated-case, mistaken-law; seditious calumnies, and most malicious lyes against the High Court of Parliament, the Honourable Committee of Examinations, Mr Speaker, with other members of the Commons House; and Mr William Prynne; wherewith he hath seduced many ignorant overcredulous people. Manifesting the Parliaments extraordinary clemency towards him, their justice in their commitment of, and proceedings against him; for which he so ingratefully and falsely taxeth them, with tyranny and injustice / By William Prynne of Lincolnes Inne, Esquire. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1645 (1645) Wing P4002; Thomason E267_1; ESTC R212413 54,867 55

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That it was their cordiall desire not to look on the King or Parliament as divided one from another but united and would thus cordially adhere to both without siding against either c. Whereupon they humbly prayed they might enjoy their joynt favour and protection and the like liberty of Trade to both their Quarters as they enjoyed by ancient Charters between England and France during the Wars between both only with their Lawfull Commodities without doing prejudice to either side This Petition to the Parliament with Letters from Sir Philip to Mr. Pym were sent to London by one John le Coulter of Iersey bound thence for England with divers Letters from some English Captives in Argeir to their friends here about their Redemption who coming to London with the Letters and Petition presently met with some Iersey men opposites to Sir Philip and acquainting them that he had Letters from Sir Philip to Mr. Pym with a Petition from the Estates of the whole Island to the Parliament and desiring their direction how he might present them to Mr. Pym they presently procured him to be seised on by a Messenger as a Spye sent purposely over by Sir Philip whom they cryed up for a Malignant and Enemy to the Parliament without any colour or shadow of proofe took away all his Letters and the Petition which by this means was smothered and never presented to the House and if presented and Answered would doubtlesse have settled that Island in quietnesse and made Sir Philip and the whole Island firm to the Parliament After which by false suggestions they detained him above three moneths in their Custody to his great expence before I could procure his full release About the same time one Osmond Cooke a Souldier of Mount-Orguile Castle who attended on me in my Chamber during all the time of my close Imprisonment there and came into England about halfe a year before meerly upon his own private businesse to recover a house and some Lands in Beccles devised to him by his Uncle returning into Iersey from hence was in his passage thither by these malitious persons Informations seised on in the Western parts as a Spye to Sir Philip sent up Prisoner to London by Sea and there detained in Custody divers moneths Notwithstanding there was no proof of any thing at all against him but meer suggestions behinde his back the which to my knowledge were false Whiles these two parties were thus Imprisoned Sir Philips Adversaries by their malitious suggestions of his dangerous malignity and Enmity to the Parliament and importunate solicitations procured an Order from the close Committee for Major Lidcot and some other Officers with six very good brasse Ordnance and sundry Musquets Barrells of Powder Match and Ammunition to be sent into Iersey to apprehend Sir Philip as an enemy to the Parliament to besiege and take in the Castles secure the Island to the Parliament and desend their party there and withall got the Coyners Messeruies enlarged to go over with them into Iersey Maximillian promising to do great matters for the Parliament with the party he and his confederates would there raise and out of my cordiall affection to the Parliament and that Island acquainted Mr. Solicitor and others of the close Committee with the inconveniences and ill consequence of this rash design of which I having intelligence grounded upon meer misinformations of Sir Philips adversaries to effect their own ends informing them upon my own knowledge that both Castles in Iersey were so strongly scituated fortified that they must have an Army by Land and a Fleet by Sea to Block them up that an hundred men in each would maintain the Castles against all the Force the Island could make and three times more and therefore it was a ridiculous thing to imagine that a Major with five or six Gunners and Officers and that small force Sir Philips Enemies could raise there should take both or either of the Castles especially without a Fleet to assist them one of them being quite surrounded with the Sea at half Flood and above half the other at low water that the Castles to my knowledge were very well furnished with Ordnance and Ammunition for two or three years Siege that they could every tide receive fresh Supplyes of Victualls Men and what ever they wanted from France and elsewhere That the Islanders were generally rawe faint-hearted Souldiers who durst not come within Canon shot of the Castles much lesse approach a Breach and run upon the Canons mouth as they must do if they will take them That if they sent any Ordnance Musquets or Ammunitions thither which they needed at home they would all certainly be lost and that they who engaged them in this action did it more out of private ends and malice against Sir Philip then any publike good to the Parliament for admit the Parliament had the Castles and Island surrendred without a stroke they would cost them more the keeping then they were worth and draw a charge upon the State in these needfull times to no purpose but to waste the publike Treasure That in times of Peace the King received not one peny profit from the Island but only the Governour whose whole income in time of war would not maintain the Garrison souldiers requisite to keep one of the two Castles and that it could supply the Parliament neither with fighting men nor money nor Shipping in this time of War but must be supplyed from hence with all these And admit the King had it all in his absolute power it could do the Parliament no hurt at all since it could neither supply him with Souldiers Men Money Provisions nor Ammunition and far remote from England quite out of the road of our English Trade That the Inhabitants being generally very poor and having none but base French Coyne among them could yield the King no supply of moneys That Sir Philip Carteret and the States of the Island did now by Petition and Letter desire the Parliaments friendship and Kings joyntly and not to side with either as divided but United and that he would engage himself if they would give but a fair Answer to their Petition which was suppressed by the opposite party that Sir Philip and those Islanders of his party should continue firm unto the Parliament and their friends and never do one act of Hostility or unkindenesse on the Kings behalf against them and that the Parliaments and the Kings Ships upon all occasions should have all accomodations and ride safely in the Harbour there at their pleasure which was all the benefit we could reap if the Island and two Castles were totally in the Parliaments possession That if they sent any Ships or Forces thither to apprehend Sir Philip or Seise the Island and Castles by sorce especially by such infamous persons as the Coyners and some others were it would make Sir Philip and his party to stand upon their guard and perchance of friends or Neuters at
the most to turn professed enemies and side with them that were ill affected without any advantage to the State and draw much expence upon them which would end in losse and dishonour as experience would manifest and I would make appear by unanswerable Arguments before the whole Committee in the presence of those who put them upon this designe To which end I did put all this under my hand in writing and left it with some of the close Committee Whereupon there was some stop made of the Iersey Expedition for a week or two but afterwards some of the Committee crediting Sir Philips Adversaries who continually sollicited them and kept Osmond Cooke and le Coultre in Prison and promised a present Conquest of the Castles and Island Major Lidcot and some other Officers through their importunity were sent over thither with six great Brasse peeces Muske●s Powder Match and other necessaries Before the Major departed hence I meeting him at Westminster Hall informed him of the strength of the Castles the impossibility of taking them the Cowardise and treachery of the Islanders and of some of those who were to go over with him who would certainly betray him for their own advantage especially Maximillian the Coyner and therefore advised him to be very vigilant telling him I much feared he would soon return thence with losse and dishonour and without any successe which I acquainted him with out of my good affection to himself and the State the importunity of Sir Philips Adversaries having engaged the Parliament and himself in this designe which I endeavoured to hinder but could not and therefore had done my duty Soon after they set sayl for Iersey and there Landing with their Ordnance Arms Ammunition summoned in the Country to beleaguer the Castles which they did at a distance out of danger of Canon shot for a little space But Captain Carteret arriving there with about fifty new Souldiers after Sir Philips death who died in the new Castle during the Leaguer the event proved answerable to my Predictions the Canons Musquets and Ammunition sent thither were all lost and taken by Captain Carteret the Major basely deserted by the Islanders the Dean Messeruy others that went over with him from hence who revolted to the other side and with the hazard of life was forced to make his passage through the Enemy and to flye thence by night in a small Boat and returne for England to the great dishonour and expence of the Parliament And by this means the Island was totally lost to the Parliament and of reall Friends or Neuters at the most made their professed Enemies Whereas if my advise had been followed this vast expence had been saved this dishonour prevented and the Island continued firm to the Parliament which hath been thus abused by Sir Philips opposites meerly out of private spleen and ambition to gain his places which God knows they had neither wisdom nor ability to manage And this is Mr. Prynnes destructive practises to the Common-Wealth in supporting Sir Philip Cartret whom this slanderous Libeller onely upon false reports stiles the Malignant Governour of Iersey and as great an instrument of supporting the King in his unjust warres as any hath beene in England which is certainly a most loud Lye since it hath not at all been proved none I beleeve can say that Sir Phillip ever supported the King in his warres with Men Money Ammunition nor ever did the least hostile act against the Parliament but onely defended himselfe when causelesly sent for and terribly assaulted by his Enemies sollicitations and mis-informations to the Parliament how ever this is certaine that I never supported him in his Malignity or since he turned Malignant if he proved such a one after the Majors arrivall there And Major Ledcot will informe this slanderer and all the world as he did in Westminster Hall and in my chamber upon his return from this Iersey expedition that it had been happy for the Parliament and Island too had my advice agrinst that most improbable designe been hearkned to that those who put the Parliament on this Expedition were most of them false dishonest men byassed with private interests who deserted him for their own advantage And that he found every tittle I had informed the Parliament and himselfe before his voyage to be true by wosull experience And therefore Iohn Lilburne may save the labour of anatomizing Mr. Pryns destructive practises to the Commonwealth in this particular of Iersey and support of Sir Phillip Cartret wherewith hee promiseth to abuse the world ere long And to that purpose hath imployed Anabaptists from Iersey who were the principall fomenters of this Expedition to make a present underhand Inquisition of my carriage in this businesse which they are now very busie about enquiring of every Iersey man and others as divers of the parties have lately informed me what they know or have heard concerning me and my carriage in Iersey and holding intelligence with Sir Phillip And I shall onely desire him to take notice that the Dean Sir Phillips principall enemy who betrayed Major Lydcot being since imprisoned in Iersey and attempting an escape broke both his legge and necke over the Castle walls that Messeruy another principall actor who proved treacherous is since executed in Iersey for his coyning that Monsieur Kiddel a great stickler against Sir Philip because he could not have one of his daughters for his wife was a person so scandalous for his drunkennesse and Venery and storing Garnsey with a specious generation of Bastards that he was inforced to fly thence into England That both the Gurdons Lawyers and others who were most active in this plot and made most friends in Parliament are professed Anabaptists and now grown so insolent that they threaten and abuse their other Countrymen who will not joyn with them in their Anabaptisticall Religion and Church and promise to themselves all the Offices and government of the Island when reduced and to set up their Religion there cum privilegio That Monsieur Daristux was late a zealous popish Monk who deserting his orders some say for incontinency and advanced by Sir Phillips means to a living there to my own knowledge proved a most ingratefull wretch towards him and a meere fire-brand in the isle and since his coming over a chief incendiary in the French Church in Norwich which he hath in a maner quite ruined dissolved and these were Sir Phillips chief opposi●es who engaged the Parliament in the invasion of the Island of Iersey for their own privat ends and have quite undone both Iersey and Garnsey too and put the Parliament to a vast expence only to make the Islanders Governors of them their Enemies who upon my certaine knowledge were once and I beleeve would still have continued their faithfull friends or at least remained Neuters and not attempted ought against the Parliament or any really adhering to them And for a close of this particular I shall averre
would be to the Parliament and what cause of clamours and just exceptions it would give to the Kings Malignant party to exclaim against them if they upon the information of those false Coyners who were Traitors by Law and had relapsed into this offence after a Pardon and now fled from thence to escape the hands of Iustice should thus be sent over thither by the Parliaments Authority as their Agents to apprehend Sir Philip the Governour a man of honour and credit who had formerly saved them from the Gallows and did now but his duty in prosecuting them and craved my advice therein before their arrivall here and bring him prisoner over hither who had just cause to apprehend and hang them there That this would be such an Act of indiscretion and injustice as would open the mouthes of all the world against them and alienate the heart of Sir Philip the whole Island and all good men from them And thereupon I desired them to take some course to call in their Warrant which they thought very just and desired my assistance therein whereupon I imployed one to finde out their lodgings which he did at last informing me withall that they were full of money and that Maximilian had offered a small Ingot of gold to sell whereupon I conceiving they had here set up their Coyning trade for which they fled from Jersey procured a Warrant from Iustice Hooker to apprehend their persons and search their lodgings for suspition of Coyning which was delivered to one Master Stone a Constable in Saint Clements who coming early in the morning to their lodging and standing at their Chamber door heard them telling mony on the Table which he conceived to amount to five or six pounds at least by the noise it made after which he knocking at the door and demanding them to open it they suspecting by his words and carriage he was some Officer refused to do it stood upon their guard and Maximillian offered to escape forth out of a Garret window and after that at a back door but at last they were both apprehended and searched but no money could be found about them except three or four pieces of French and Spanish Coyn not amounting to above five or six shillings But in Maximilians Trunk there was found a plate and mould to coyne with which himself bespoke about a month before of a Smith neer Charing Crosse bringing him the pattern in paper pretending it was an instrument which he must use in the Army wherein he pretended he was to be a Trooper together with powder to cast gold and silver mettle in and Alchimy Salts to colour their false silver with in the chamber over theirs there was found about a pound or two of their false mettle hid under the mats in a corner some in the lump not sophisticated some in small pieces newly melted and so cunningly sophisticated with Alchimy ingredients that it shewed like silver and would indure the Test insomuch that the Goldsmiths themselves could not discern whether it was sophisticated or not till Sir John Wollastons servants melted it down and then there was not one grain of silver in it being the most artificiall counterfeiting of silver without any mixture of it that they ever saw Vpon these pregnant evidences of their guiltinesse of coyning false money here seconded with their reall guilt of it in Iersey whence they so lately fled They were examined by Iustice Shepherd where Maximillian confessing his having the Ingot of gold which he tendred to sale and being examined what he had done therewith First he said he had given it away but to whom he knew not then that he had exchanged it for some Commodities he wanted but when where and with whom he exchanged it he knew not afterwards he said he had delivered it to a Master of a Ship and being taken tardy in that his last envasion was that he had sent it to Saint Mal●es in France Vpon all these circumstances they were both committed Prisoners to the Gate-house there being nothing wanting fully to convict them but only some of their false Coyne which they conveyed away in such sort that no piece of it could be found though the Constable heard them telling it as he conceived After which they were examined by Sir Robert Harles Master of the Mint who took away the Warrant they had from the close Committee to apprehend Sir Philip which Maximillian carried about him in a little box Not long after this these two Coyners lying prisoners in the Gate-house procured some Iersey Anabaptists and other of Sir Philips adversaries to informe some Members of the House of Commons that these two Coyners were very honest men who came purposely from Iersey to complain of Sir Philip to the Parliament for his Malignity and great oppressions and that by a meer plot and combination of some Malignants and friends of Sir Philips their lodgings were searched and they committed by Iustice Hooker and Iustice Shepherd to the Gate-house of purpose to take them off from prosecuting Sir Philip who was a great Royalist and notorious Enemy to the Parliament and would keep the Island only for the King they having complained against him and one or two of his Agents here that were in custody to the Committee of Examinations Vpon which mis-information both the Iustices and Constable were sent for to that Committee to be examined touching this practise who acquainting me therewith I accompanied them thither and hearing them begin to examine Iustice Shepherd in a criminall way upon the pretended plot against these Coyners I the reupon took all the businesse on my self that the Iustices and Constable did what they had done upon my information being meer strangers to Sir Philip and the Prisoners acquainted them with all the premises produced Sir Philips Letters the Mettle Mould and other particulars to make them good informing how they had abused the close Committee and this Committee too through their mis-informations and what a dishonour it would be to countenance or imploy such villains whom they should either hang here or send over thither in a way of Iustice to be executed desiring them to take some course to punish those who did thus mis-informe and abuse them neither of them daring to appear to make good what they suggested Whereupon the Iustices were dismisled these Coyners remanded to the Gate-house and Ordered to be proceeded against at the Sessions Whilest these things were in agitation about the time of these Coyners first arrivall in England Sir Philip assembled the Estates of Iersey together in nature of a Parliament where he and the States in name of the whole Island framed and joyned together in two Petitions the one to the King the other to the Parliament to this effect That they were deeply affected with the dissentions and civill Wars in England between the King and Parliament that they feared the like distractions there unlesse timely prevented by their wisdoms and care