Selected quad for the lemma: war_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
war_n	death_n	king_n	treason_n	2,761	5	9.5559	5	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A88587	A modest and clear vindication of the serious representation, and late vindication of the ministers of London, from the scandalous aspersions of John Price, in a pamphlet of his, entituled, Clerico-classicum or, The clergies alarum to a third war. Wherein his king-killing doctrine is confuted. The authors by him alledged, as defending it, cleared. The ministers of London vindicated. The follies, and falsities of Iohn Price discovered. The protestation, vow, and the Covenant explained. / By a friend to a regulated monarchy, a free Parliament, an obedient army, and a godly ministry; but an enemy to tyranny, malignity, anarchy and heresie.	Love, Christopher, 1618-1651.	1649 (1649)	Wing L3168; Thomason E549_10; ESTC R204339	63,269	85

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parliament_n etc._n etc._n he_o profess_v the_o minister_n will_v be_v willing_a to_o meet_v where_o and_o with_o whosoever_o to_o labour_v to_o satisfy_v they_o therein_o but_o this_o offer_n be_v decline_v they_o that_o do_v evil_a hate_v the_o light_n lest_o their_o deed_n shall_v be_v make_v manifest_a i_o need_v say_v no_o more_o because_o the_o letter_n itself_o say_v so_o much_o for_o the_o minister_n vindication_n in_o refuse_v such_o a_o conference_n as_o be_v desire_v read_v pag._n 2._o of_o the_o serious_a representation_n that_o may_v stop_v your_o mouth_n have_v a_o conference_n be_v desire_v with_o we_o only_o to_o have_v give_v you_o resolution_n whether_o the_o way_n wherein_o at_o the_o present_a you_o be_v walk_v be_v agreeable_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n we_o shall_v most_o willing_o have_v deliver_v our_o judgement_n etc._n etc._n and_o if_o only_o for_o the_o clear_n of_o this_o case_n a_o conference_n have_v be_v desire_v it_o be_v from_o the_o first_o profess_v that_o we_o shall_v be_v ready_a and_o willing_a to_o meet_v where_o and_o with_o whosoever_o to_o assert_v and_o maintain_v our_o judgement_n therein_o but_o as_o if_o the_o justness_n of_o your_o way_n be_v already_o grant_v by_o we_o we_o be_v only_o invite_v to_o contribute_v our_o assistance_n in_o prosecution_n of_o what_o you_o have_v undertake_v which_o we_o conceive_v to_o be_v out_o of_o your_o sphere_n and_o for_o we_o to_o have_v join_v in_o any_o consultation_n of_o this_o nature_n will_v have_v make_v we_o accessary_a unto_o they_o guilty_a of_o the_o evil_a that_o be_v in_o they_o etc._n etc._n thus_o be_v the_o letter_n and_o because_o you_o be_v but_o of_o a_o vulgar_a capacity_n i_o shall_v relate_v a_o comparison_n m_n ash_n use_v to_o col._n titchbourne_n suppose_v say_v he_o to_o the_o colonel_n your_o servant_n shall_v offer_v you_o violence_n and_o lay_v you_o under_o restraint_n and_o shall_v then_o come_v to_o a_o minister_n and_o pray_v he_o to_o advise_v they_o how_o they_o shall_v distribute_v their_o master_n good_n and_o what_o or_o how_o much_o each_o of_o they_o shall_v take_v to_o themselves_o now_o shall_v that_o minister_n consult_v with_o those_o servant_n he_o shall_v be_v a_o abettor_n in_o their_o horrid_a insolence_n against_o their_o master_n the_o minister_n shall_v rather_o tell_v those_o undutiful_a servant_n that_o it_o be_v more_o proper_a for_o they_o to_o ask_v whether_o they_o have_v not_o sin_v in_o thus_o abuse_v their_o master_n and_o to_o charge_v they_o to_o restore_v their_o master_n to_o his_o liberty_n and_o the_o enjoyment_n of_o his_o authority_n by_o they_o undue_o usurp_v to_o obey_v he_o for_o time_n to_o come_v etc._n etc._n the_o drift_n mr._n ash_n aim_v at_o be_v easy_a to_o conjecture_v the_o army_n who_o be_v as_o servant_n to_o the_o parliament_n do_v lay_v violent_a hand_n on_o and_o restrain_v their_o lord_n and_o master_n the_o parliament_n of_o england_n who_o army_n they_o be_v raise_v by_o their_o authority_n for_o preservation_n of_o their_o privilege_n etc._n etc._n and_o when_o the_o army_n have_v do_v that_o they_o send_v to_o minister_n to_o advise_v what_o be_v yet_o further_o to_o be_v do_v and_o how_o they_o must_v manage_v their_o master_n work_n i_o mean_v dispose_v of_o the_o affair_n of_o the_o kingdom_n but_o never_o desire_v to_o be_v resolve_v whether_o they_o have_v do_v well_o or_o ill_a in_o offer_v violence_n to_o their_o master_n the_o parliament_n but_o as_o if_o it_o be_v to_o be_v take_v for_o grant_v that_o the_o army_n have_v do_v well_o in_o force_v the_o parliament_n the_o minister_n be_v only_o desire_v to_o join_v in_o consultation_n with_o they_o to_o advise_v about_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v not_o legal_o within_o their_o cognizance_n to_o settle_v what_o ever_o satisfaction_n they_o shall_v receive_v from_o the_o minister_n

there_o be_v a_o ordinance_n of_o both_o house_n wherein_o it_o be_v ordain_v that_o no_o person_n who_o contrive_v abet_v persuade_v or_o enter_v into_o that_o engagement_n call_v the_o agreement_n of_o the_o people_n shall_v be_v capable_a of_o bear_v office_n in_o the_o city_n of_o london_n for_o the_o space_n of_o one_o whole_a year_n the_o other_o falsity_n you_o will_v fasten_v upon_o the_o marginal_a note_n 10._o be_v that_o one_o of_o the_o soldier_n be_v shoot_v to_o death_n for_o promote_n of_o it_o this_o you_o say_v be_v a_o most_o notorious_a untruth_n answ._n to_o convince_v you_o that_o you_o not_o the_o minister_n have_v speak_v a_o untruth_n i_o shall_v produce_v against_o you_o a_o threefold_a testimony_n 1._o of_o the_o honourable_a house_n of_o commons_o who_o on_o november_n 23._o 1647._o vote_v a_o letter_n to_o be_v send_v to_o the_o general_n to_o give_v he_o thanks_o for_o the_o execution_n of_o that_o mutinous_a person_n for_o promote_a the_o agreement_n of_o the_o people_n and_o to_o desire_v he_o to_o prosecute_v the_o examination_n of_o that_o business_n to_o the_o bottom_n and_o to_o bring_v such_o guilty_a person_n as_o he_o shall_v think_v ●it_n to_o condign_a and_o exemplary_a punishment_n now_o sure_o the_o house_n of_o commons_o then_o sit_v at_o westminster_n be_v more_o likely_a to_o have_v true_a intelligence_n why_o the_o man_n be_v shoot_v to_o death_n than_o john_n price_n can_v have_v at_o his_o shop_n in_o the_o exchange_n 2._o of_o the_o full_a relation_n in_o print_n have_v gilbert_n mabbot_n imprimatur_fw-la pag._n 5._o of_o the_o proceed_n of_o the_o rendezvous_n nov._n 15._o 1647._o hold_v in_o c●rkbush_n heath_n near_o ware_n wherein_o it_o be_v full_o declare_v that_o for_o disperse_v sundry_a scandalous_a and_o factious_a paper_n as_o the_o agreement_n of_o the_o people_n etc._n etc._n for_o this_o 3_o of_o they_o be_v try_v and_o condemn_v to_o death_n and_o one_o of_o they_o be_v shoot_v to_o death_n at_o the_o 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