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A60118 The Justice of the Parliament, in inflicting of punishments subsequent to offences, vindicated and the lawfulness of the present government asserted : with some animadversions upon the second vindication of the magistracy and government of England. Shower, Bartholomew, Sir, 1658-1701. 1689 (1689) Wing S3651; ESTC R15074 22,626 35

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place he owns to be his Province to defend and justifie I desire our Author hereafter to postpone the giving his Works a Title till he has finished them for the Contradiction and Incongruity between the Title and Body of his Sheet is really a very great scandal and reproach to him VIII In the same Page he goes on thus As to the rest the force of it if any seems to be founded on his first Assertion the Conspiring to do a thing is not the doing a thing and he quotes two great Mens Names for it I would have agreed that though he had spared the Authority to justifie it but this is sufficiently answered in the Sheet 1. Our Author now gives us an instance of his Sincerity as he has done before several times of his Judgment I desire him to point at that part of the Justification out of which he quotes that absurd and ridiculous Assertion That the Conspiring to do a thing is not the doing a thing I should never have been able to guess what he meant if he had not added the Quotation of the two great Mens Names the two great Men are the Lords Coke and Hales which the Justifier cites to prove That Conspiring to Levy War is not Treason nor an Overt Act to prove the Intention or compassing of the King's death The Justifier uses their own Words and tells his Reader so and is not our Author a Man of a strange Forehead to Construe Positions laid down by Coke and Hales so absurdly 2. If the Proposition Conspiring to Levy War is not Treason be to be expounded as our Author does That Conspiring to do a thing is not doing the thing what becomes of our Judges who have adjudged That the Conspiring to do a thing was the doing a thing for they adjudged to Levy War Treason within the intent of Stat. Edw. 3. tho it be not in the Letter Our Author one might think play'd Booty for tho he assumes the Stile of the Judges Vindicator yet he loads them with a more gross and stupid Imputation than either the Defence Remarks or Justification but I 'le be his Compurgator I believe him true and faithful to his Trust this was a Blunder and Blunders we find to flow from him with a wonderful and natural Facility and we may observe one more in this period where be says This is sufficiently answered in the Sheet Now tho I never saw that Sheet he must mean his first Sheet till lately yet I am assured it was printed before the Justification came out and then I desire to know how he comes to Answer a Paper he never saw nor knew to be in being there must be Prophesy or Revelation in the Case that is certain but admitting he had said That what was writ in the Sheet did resute this part of the Justification and so rendred an answer now unnecessary which was his intent if he had any at all I say That to a general Affirmative I can but oppose a general Negative that 't is not c. I confess I might have spared my Criticism on the Incorrectness of our Authors Expressions since there are so many more important Faults and Errors to entertain me with IX In the same page He says that the Justifier offers an Argument from the late Statutes declaring Treasons because they were Temporary but I answer as the Sheet doth they were in affirmance of the Old Law and I can shew him three or four Temporary and an hundred other Acts of Parliament that are so and therefore that is no Argument at all but I am as the Party I justify was confined to a Sheet and therefore cannot enlarge 1. The Temporary Statutes for making a bare Conspiracy to levy War Treason were one of the Topicks from which the Justifier drew his Arguments to prove that it was not Treason within the intent of the Statute of E. 3. upon which my Lord Russel was indicted for he did and does still think that so many Parliaments would not have troubled themselves to make special Statutes concerning it if they had thought it Treason by any Statute before in being and did also infer that all those Parliaments did not judge it fit to be a continued standing Treason because then they would have made their Statutes perpetual and not remporary When there were Jealousies and Apprehensions of an Invasion from a Foreign Enemy and of the Subjects holding a correspondency with him as in Queen Elizabeth and other Reigns upon such and the like Emergencies the Wisdom of the Parliament did think fitting to make a Conspiracy to levy War Treason and there is no doubt but such an Act would be at this time seasonable 2. His bare and confident averment that they were in affirmance of the Old Law and that he can shew three or four Temperary Statutes that are so must not bear down those strong Reasons which induce me to believe that they were introductive of New Law I believe he may be so learned as to produce a great many other Acts that are only declaratory of the Old Law but I 'm sure 't is not common nor usual to make temporary Acts in affirmance of perpetual Acts of Parliament which is the Point in question For if our Author means any thing that is pertinent 't is that these temporary Acts are in affirmance of the Statute of E. 3. which is perpetual 'T is true the temporary Statute of 13 Car. 2. as our Author cites does enact That if any person or persons whatsoever shall within the Realm or without compass or imagine the Death of the King c. and such Compassings Imaginations c. shall express utter or declare by any Printing Writing Preaching or malicious-advised Speaking being legally convicted thereof by c. then every such c. shall c. But no man except our Author would say that this is in affirmance of Stat. E. 3. as to the compassing the King's Death The Statute of E. 3. does provide That there must be some Overt-act but it does not determine what shall be a good and sufficient Overt-act to prove the Compassing If the matter be clear it leaves it to the Judges if there be any doubt or difficulty then it does expresly direct the Judges to respit their Judgments till the meeting of the Parliament that the Case may be resolved there But the Statute 13 Car. 2. declares the compassing the King's Death and particularly the expressing the same by any Printing Writing Preaching or malicious-advised Speaking to be Treason the Copulative And makes it clear that the principal End of this part of the Statute was to particularise and ascertain That such Facts therein mentioned should be sufficient Overt-acts of the compassing during King Charles's Life that were not so by the Statute of E. 3. which left it general and at large Is not our Author a man of an excellent Head to apprehend this to be only a Confirmation of the Old Statute
in words at length Indeed he does say That it was agreed to be so in the House of Commons 1 Jac. 2. and when a Motion was made to renew that Law the Lawyers answer was That the 25 E. 3. did the same thing I have enquired of some diligent and observing Members of that Parliament concerning the truth of this Allegation and they assure me there was no such Answer made by the Lawyers nor no such thing agreed by the House but they give me this Account of the matter There was a Bill brought in to renew the Statute of 13 Car. 2. and upon the second or third reading it was moved by Mr. Tipping 't is for his Credit to be named That there might be an explanatory Proviso That Preaching Writing or Speaking against Popery and against the Doctrines and Principles of the Church of Rome should not be construed or intended within the intent of the Act. This was thought so reasonable that it was immediately agreed unto and a Committee appointed presently to withdraw into the Speaker's Chamber to pen the Proviso and the Bishop of St. Asaph came there to be assisting in it Upon this the Bill was dropt and let fall and no man ever after pressed it further which may give all men satisfaction what use was at that time designed to be made of it and that all our Learned Clergy who did since Preach and Write against Popery would have been in danger if the Bill had passed to have been construed into a Treason Praemunire or some other great Penalty within the intent of that Bill to the ruine of Them and their Families This was in King James's first Parliament when we had the most simple plain and solemn Assurances of Protecting our Religion and our Laws that was possible to be devised It does now sufficiently appear how insufficiently our Author has answered this Argument of the Justifier 'T is true he does make an Apology and a very pretty one it is That he is confined to a Sheet and therefore cannot enlarge He says when he comes to answer Mr. H. That he wants time But I desire to know How it comes that he cannot spare time or that he is limited to a Sheet Who is it that does set these bounds unto his Writings It were to be wished That the person who has so great Authority over him as to confine him to a Sheet would improve it a little further and engage him not to write at all If it had been a year ago I should have presumed he were thus streightned from the attendance he owed to some great Place for I believe truly his Parts Learning Integrity and other Qualifications could not fail of recommending him to an Eminent Office perhaps a Recorder of a Great City or the like in the late Reign The Reader may observe what sort of man he is who when he is gravell'd and can offer nothing of Reason is forced to have recourse to so poor and pitiful a shift as to pretend he wants time or that he is confined to a Sheet which bears the Price of four Sheets and considering the value of if he might have afforded more of them for our Money X. In the same Page he observes That the Justifier lays down a Rule for Construction of Statutes That a thing particularis'd in one part is not to be construed within the general words of another part but that Rule has near fourscore Exceptions in the Books Besides it comes not to this Case for here is compassing the King's Death made Treason and declared by Overt-act then levying War is made Treason Now says the Repliant nothing can be an Overt-act of the first that does any way concern the latter which is a Non sequitur c. 1. 'T is very true the Justifier does lay down the Rule and does thence deduce That conspiring to levy War cannot be within the meaning of the Clause of Compassing the King's Death in the Stat. E. 3. because levying War is particularly mentioned in the Statute after 2. The Rule is admitted but it has it seems near fourscore Exceptions though by reason of the misfortune of our Author 's being confined to a Sheet or time being wanting he has not obliged his Reader with one of that great number It would have been much more material for him to have shewed That any of the said Exceptions or the Reason of them did extend to the Point in Question than to tire his Reader with a long impertinent Preface and a tedious insignificant Digression of the King's Prerogative of Peace and War which take up two or three Pages If he had omitted these he needed not to have exceeded the Standard of a Sheet and yet have room enough to have given better and more satisfactory Answers if he could 3. The Consequence That conspiring to levy War is not an Overt-act of the Compassing c. because it belongs to another species is clear from the express words of Coke and Hales which see in the Justification And if the Makers of the Statute had designed to conclude Conspiring c. it would not have cost them above three words more to have added it to the Clause of levying War where it would have more properly come in then under the Clause of Compassing to which it has no Relation nor no Man could dream of finding it The positive Opinions of Coke and Hales the Authority of a Rule of Law and the consideration of the motive and end of the Statute which all make against our Author do justly merit so great a Complement and Respect to be paid them that the Case should be admitted to be doubtful and if it be doubtful then by the express Direction of the Act the Judges ought to have suspended their Judgment till they received the Determination of the Parliament Our Author refers to the Sheet for several Instances to the purpose I have examined a great many of them at length I was weary and I 'le assure him there was not one that warranted the Judgment in my Lord Russel's Case Mr. H. has been so particular in answering them that he has saved all others the Labour I do not say but that there has been as extravagant Opinions as this as in the Case of him who said His Son was Heir to the Crown meaning a House that had a Crown for a Sign to it and of him Who wished Stag-horns and all in Kings Belly meaning one of that Name c. These and the like were in violent corrupt times adjudged Treason but no man ever defended these Resolutions or esteem them to be Law tho they have the Sanction of the judicial Opinions of their side XI He proceeds and says The Lord Cobham 's Case is endeavoured to be answered by a wonder that Sir Edward Coke late Lord Chief Justice and then Sheriff should differ from Mr. Attorney Coke for we know his Thoughts in Sir Walter Rawleigh 's time and in his Speeches in Car.
1. his time they are as different each from the other as the times were I have now as I had before occasion to reprove our Author for false Recitals the Justifiers never said nor wondered that my Lord Coke's Opinion was different at one time from what it was at another and he was so far from saying that his Opinion was different when he was Attorney from his Opinion in his third Institution which our Author means that he believed there was no such Resolution as was pretended in the Lord Cobham's Case because my Lord Coke did not take notice of it in his Inst where he taught a Doctrine quite contrary and also because Hales gives another Account of the Offence of the Lord Cobham than was alledged in my Lord Russel's Tryal by the Kings Council 2. I am as free to Reproach my Lord Coke for his Carriage against Sir Walter Rawleigh as I am the late King Charles the Second Council for theirs against my Lord Russel but for his Speeches in Car. 1. his time if he means these delivered in Parliament as many as I have read of them are very Honest and denote a Zeal and Affection to the Laws and Liberties of his Countrey and do not in the least derogate from the just and ancient Prerogatives of the Crown 3. Upon the whole there is nothing material here answered to the Objections made by the Justifier against the Authority of the Lord Cobham's Case quoted in the Tryal as will appear by comparing this answer with the Justification nor is there any thing said to my Lord Hales stating Cobham's Crime different from the Tryal from whence we may conclude it was more than a bare Conspiracy c. XII He says Sir Henry Vane 's Case is endeavoured to be answered by this that Syderfin mentions not the Overt-Act in the Indictment but he does say the Treason alledged was a compassing the Kings Death and every Man knows what Sir Henry Vane did to accomplish that he neither Signed the Warrant to Execute that Murder nor was he actually concerned in it The Justifier says He does not remember it printed any where but in Syderfin 's Reports for the refreshment of his Memory I 'le tell him of another Book where it is and that is Keeble 's Reports 1 Vol. 304. and there the Indictment is said to be for compassing the Kings Death and endeavouring to accomplish the Treason by Changing and Usurping the Government and Levying War which Case does directly overthrow all the Defenders Justifiers and Repliants Arguments from the distinctness or difference of the sort of Treasons 1. Here is another mistake for the Justifier does not endeavour to answer Sir Henry Vane's Case because Syderfin mentions not the Overt-Acts but he does not only endeavour but does effectually answer it because there was other Matters proved against him that did amount to a good Overt-act and tho he did not Sign the Warrant to Execute that Murder yet he was concerned in Designs for incompassing his Civil Death which is within the Act as well as his Natural 2. The Devil owed our Author a shame when he prompt him to refer us to Keeble for by that Book it expresly appears that the Changing and Usurping the Government was part of Sir Henry Vane's Charge as well as Levying War which does necessarily imply the Kings Deposition which no man ever doubted but was Treason but how comes this to be applicable to my Lord R's Case 3. This Case is so far from overthrowing all the Defenders Justifiers and Repliants Arguments from the distinctness of the Treason that 't is plainly consistent with them and all other Arguments they use XIII Then for Doctor Story 's Case 't is hard to justify it for Law whereas there are above forty places where it is cited and agreed c. if any thing be Law that is so and not distinguishable from the Case in question but that the Evidence was different which the Justifier would make a reason to invalidate this Indictment the Logick of it passeth all understanding c. 1. I do say 'T is hard to justify Doctor Story 's Case according to the summary and imperfect Report of it in Dyer but take it with all the Circumstances it is Treason and is nothing like my Lord Russel's Case who was never pretended to be guilty of adhering to a Foreign Enemy nor a design of Deposing the King as in truth Story was 2. I desire our Author to reconcile his saying here That the Justifier would invalidate the Indictment with what he said before that the Justifier admitted the Indictment to be good and only quarrelled with the Evidence but Contradictions and Incongruities are small Faults 3. If the Logick of distinguishing my Lord Russel's Case from Story 's because the Evidence against them were different be past his understanding I cannot imagine what is within the reach of his Understanding for 't is clear that the Evidence is the principal and most essential Thing to be weighed and considered 'T is true our Author has said That the Evidence was not his Province but that his Business was to defend the Court and Council I have already delivered my Thoughts upon that Expression and shall now further ask our Author one Question concerning it whether if the Evidence was short and did not warrant the Indictment it was not the duty of the Court to tell the Jury so much and that therefore they ought to have acquitted the Prisoner By his Doctrine if any Man be Indicted of compassing Death of the King and the Evidence be crossing a Ri●er in a pair of Oars the Court is not to trouble it self about the Evidence nor to instruct the Jury of the insufficiency of it and if the Party be Convicted the Court is in no Fault because the Indictment was as good as against the Murderers of King Charles the First and the Cases are only distinguishable by the proof Now I have been all along under an Error and the unanimous Consent of the Books have led me to it that the Jurors were entirely to be determined in Points of Law by the Court and that the Court was to state the Law arising from the Proofs to the Jury and that they were only Judges of the Fact. XIV In 2d Ander Grant 's Case 't was held That when any Person intendeth or contriveth to Levy War for a thing which the Queen by her Law or Justice ought or may do in Government as Queen it 's not material whether they intend any hurt to Her Person but if they intend to Levy War against the Office and Authority of the Queen that 's enough and that Resolution overthrows the Justifiers Notion that J. S. 's design was only to defend the Laws though the 13 Eliz. was then in force it 's a good Argument to answer that Pretence 1. I have not 2d Ander by me 't is out of Print and I can't procure it tho I 've sent to several