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A85979 The ruine of the authors and fomentors of civill vvarres. As it was deliver'd in a sermon before the Honourable House of Commons in Margarets-Church Westminster, Sept. 24. being the monethly fast day, set apart for publick humiliation. / By Sam: Gibson, pastor of Burleigh in Rutland; now minister of Gods Word at Margarets Westminster, pro tempore; and one of the Assembly of Divines. Gibson, Samuel. 1645 (1645) Wing G671; Thomason E302_27; ESTC R200286 23,567 42

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terror to the Army of Israel and Vriah may an opponent say He kill'd many Philistims that they sung Saul his thousand and David his ten thousand and Vriah may he say and if other of his victories he alledged tending to his honour this might still be opposed yea but he kill'd his servant Vriah the Hittite yet notwithstanding the atrocity of the fact and all the anger about it and all the threatning of him and his houshold in his adversitie he cryed to God when his enemies rose up against him and his prayer was heard At his latter end he could say that the Lord had redeemed his soule out of all adversitie This much illustrateth the grace of God and may strengthen our consolation in these times Surely there is hope for England and Scotland wee have had and have so many praying dayes and have so many praying men praying Commanders praying Souldiers praying Parliament men a praying Assembly and other praying Ministers and praying people and we have had comfortable experience of the good effects events of our prayers specially after our extraordinary Fasts After that which was kept before the battell at Naseby when the Armies were to be ingaged and the Gospel lay at stake and wee were in distresse and feare wee sought the Lord and he heard us and wee had a great deliverance and a glorious victory and a little after when our Army marched towards Taunton then strongly besieged and were to ingage againe wee prayed and the Lord gave a gracious returne to our supplications the good people in those parts were relieved by our men and a formidable Army of the enemy was routed Wee have sundry times seene the salvation of God when there have been failings on our part and great advantages on the other side and when we have been in a low condition and the enemies in the height of their strength and confidence the Lord of Hosts hath appeared for us the God of our salvatiō hath favour'd our righteous cause and brought out adversaries to confusion After the extraordinary Fast kept for Scotland wee soone had intelligence of a great overthrow given to Montrosse God did great things for our brethren of that Nation whereof we have cause to rejoyce they are our brethren and confederates of the same faith with us and have deserved our prayers and good endeavours for them by their prayers for us in our trouble and the great service they have done to this Kingdome and to the Church of God amongst us they shewed zeale and courage and quicken'd us when wee in a manner had lost our selves and there was little life in us they have been instruments to promote the Reformation which wee have that Church was famous in the Reformed Churches for doctrine worship government and discipline when ours was in an ill name for corruptiōs that Church had the honour to be in the Antitype to Philadelphia the best of those Churches of Asia when ours was made the Antitype to Laodic●a the worst of the seven and they have had the happinesse to keep their Church without heresie or sectaries for above fifty yeares and greater love than this hath no man than to lay downe his life for his friend and that they have done for us and many thousands in and about the Citie that now sit warme might have sit cold had it not been for them and had they been overthrown their fall would have been our fall therefore wee have cause to pray for them and to rejoyce that God of his 〈◊〉 hath heard their prayers and ours It will be said by our adversaries that they pray too and why may not they be heard as well as wee It is true they pray some of them to our Lord and some to our Lady as they call her some say Our Father some Pater noster and Ave Maria and some make use of their Beads and Crucifixes when they pray and many revile and curse the godly party yea they curse them bitterly that have come out to help the Lord against the mightie the generalitie of them read somewhat in a book but how many of them pray in the Spirit Certainly there is great difference between their praying and the praying on this side and there is great difference between the men that performe prayer on both sides and those they pray for and were their praying in some respect better than it is their cause is nought and their Armies are too like the Absalomian Army to prosper they are risen up against the righteous and help the ungodly to destroy godly men and are bloudy-minded as they were and being like them in other vices they will be like Absalom to a hair as I may say affecting long hair as he did not regarding what St Paul saith that it is a shame for a man to weare long hair making it a shame rather not to weare it long In some respects many of them are worse than the Absalomians namely for superstition and damme-swearing therefore God will not heare them no when they fast he will not heare their cry To us there is more ground of hope for good because there is more of David in our Commanders and many of our Officers and Souldiers and in those that have sent them forth for the defence of our Religion and Lawes and Liberties and of those that stand for them and wee have seene that God hath heard our prayers and prosperd our Armies in all parts of the Kingdome Wee have had great incouragement from heaven and what if we have not obtained yet a cessation of the warre no more did David in the war between the house of Saul and him though he prayd at first and constantly yet there was long warre between the house of Saul and the house of David but he obtained that he grew stronger and stronger and the house of Saul weaker and weaker and the like wee have obtained to our comfort through Gods great mercy notwithstanding our sinnes One circumstance more we are to take notice of and that is that as David prevailed so with the Lord by his prayer after that he had sinned against him so it was after his repentance humble confession of it unto God after that he was in statu quo with him upon as good termes as ever and had mercy upon mercy to his dying day Beloved Repentance obtaineth audience and pardon that maketh every sin veniall that saveth the soule and that saveth a Nation from ruine and destruction Repentance causeth God to repent maketh him better than his word when he threatneth evill as both the Israelites and Ninivites found him therefore to conclude repent and pray and waite and yee shall still see the salvation of God FINIS Exod 4. 10. Obsequium 〈◊〉 esse 〈◊〉 Id though not sine subdu●●ione sudore Lips Ep 2 Sam. 23. 10. By Westchesier 2 Chro. 12. 18. Ira cos Fortitudinis Jer. 10. 23. James 4. 13. Prov. 16. 1. Numb. 21. Ezra 7. 27. Prov. 21. 1. Gen. 20. 6. Gen 45. 5. 8. Job 5. 21. Chap. 16. Psal. 145. 17. Mat. 22. 29. Psal. 113. Ludibria joci naturae Scal. in exerc Heb. 1. 3. 1 Cor. 3. 6. Joh. 6. 29. 2 Cor. 3. 9. Minima pars operis Cal. Phil. 2. 13. Et ut velimus ut valeamus Fulgent Acts 8. {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} 2 Cor. 12. 1. {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} Joh. 15. 5. Ab Jove principium Comparatio non aquiparatio Chap. 13 3. Gen. 3. 1. Exod. 1. 10. Dan. 6. Jer. 9. 23. 1 Cor. 10. 12. 1 Cor. 6. 5. Deut. 1. 13. Pro. 18. 17. 1 King 3. 22. 1 King 21. Pro. 20. 18. Eccl. 9. 16. 2 Sam. 20. 16. 22. {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} Luk. 12. 20. Jer. 8. 9. Psal. 119. 24. 98. Isa. 29. 14. Psal. 33. 10. 1 Cor. 2. 14. {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} 1 Tim. 2. 1. Rom. 13. 1. Tit. 3. 1. Heb. 13. 17. 1 Cor. 14. 37. 1 Cor. 5. Heb. 13. 17. Judg. 20. Josh. 8. 3. Diodorus Siculus l. 17. Ad fallendum hostem 1 Ne veneno aut sicarus agatur 2 Ne fides data frangatur 3 Ne jura belli violentur Psal. 109. Psal 15. 4. Psal. 13. 4. Psal. 34. 21. Psal. 105. 14. Zach. 2. 8. 1 Pet. 4. 5. Exod. 11. 7. Mal. 3. 16 17. Finis operantis and finis operis 2 Sam. 14. 25. 1 Kings 16. 1. Judg. 20. 13. c. Chap. 21. 3. 6. 2 Chro. 13. Psal. 78. 72. Psal. 146. 8. 2 Thes. 1. 6. Ezek. 14. 21. {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} Deut. 32. 35. Vse Phil. de Com. 2 Sam. 21. 16. Bilson of perpet Gov. 1 Sam. 22. 1● 2 Chro. 16. 9. 2 Sam. 19. 6. 2 Chro. 19. 2. Psal. 141. 5. 1 Chro. 12. 18. Deodat 1 Sam. 21. 6. 9. Chap. 22. 20 c. 1 Sam. 24. 17. Pro 25. 5. Heb. 11. 25. Mr Jo. Dod. Job 29. 13. Hos. 6. 6. Prov. 21. 3. Acts 24. 14. Bilson perpet Gov. without Crosse and Surplesse Psal. 110. 1. Con Ahithophel Absalom Judg. 5. 31. 2 Sam. 15. 31. Chap. 18. 2. He set Hushai on worke {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} {non-Roman} Tfiuua Heb. Exod. 14. 15. Chap. 17. 11. 2 Chro. 14. 9. 11 12. 2 Chro. 20. 3. 2 King 19. 4 5 Zach. 2. 8. Exod. 23. 22. Psal. 50. 15. Heb. 13. 6. John 8. 47. Psal. 140. 6. Vse James 5. 15. Pro. 15. 8. Pro. 15. 29. Psal. 18. 41. Prov. 28. 9. Zach. 7. 11. Jer. 14. 12. 1 Sam. 17. Psal. 57. 1. 1 Sam. 23. 27 28. Vbi est Deus Theodosij 2 Sam. 12. Sen: Nat. q. l. 6. c. 23. 1 King 1. 15. Brightm●●…in Apoc. cap. 3. 2 Cor. 11. J●r 14. 12. 2 Sam. 3. 1. 2 Sam. 12. 13. Psal. 51. 1 Chr. 1. 29. 28 James 5. 21 Jer. 18. 7. Judg. 10. 13. c. Jonah 3. 10. That very day the salvation of God was seen wonderfully by Westchester Sept 24.
Magistrate as any man I will saith he that prayers and supplications with thankesgiving be made for all men for Kings and for all in authoritie under them and Let every soule be subject to the higher powers and Put them in remembrance that they be subject to principalities and powers and that they obey Magistrates but withall he saith Obey them that have the oversight of you that watch for your soules and the spirits of the Prophets are subject to the Prophets teaching us that Preachers should be referd to Preachers that can best judge of their doctrine Preachers should refer themselves to Preachers and submit to their judgement if they will not there is an appearance of a great deale of arrogancy in them Moreover When there was an incestuous person in Corinth that had his Fathers wife the Corinthians had him not before a Justice to have him imprisond or otherwise punished by the Magistrate but they informed the holy Apostle of him and he tooke order that he should be censur'd by the Church that he might be brought to repentance and saved And Christ in whom were all treasures of wisdome was for Caesar and would have him to have all that was due unto him but in case of trespasse between brother and brother after graduall admonition he saith Tell the Church and if he will not beare the Church let him be unto thee as a Publican and an heathen Where by Church cannot be meant the Sanedrin greater or lesser for those Councels consisted of unbeleeving men which refused Christ the Head of the Church and persecuted his members and it is not likely that he would have Christians to tell one anothers faults to unbeleevers and so expose themselves to derision and abuses and sure he would not have them accounted as heathen and no Church-members that would not heare such a Councell The name of Church is appropriated to Christian Congregations throughout the Acts of the Apostles and neither one Justice or the whole Bench is ever called the Church in the Scripture And compare that place in Mat. 18. with that of Mat. 5. 25. and Luk. 12. 58. and there will appeare a manifest difference between civill Officers and Church-Officers In Luke the civill Magistrate is called the Magistrate in both places the Judge and he speaketh of his Officer and of the prison the place of punishment for malefactors plainly putting a difference between those Governours of the Common-wealth and Church-Governours Compare place with place and consider for our part we give unto the civill Magistrate as much as the word of God giveth them and if any give more the more shame for them there is more flattery than honesty in it for my own part I had rather be under government than put to governe if I did not speake as I think I durst not speake it in this place My reason is because of the burden and the account to be given to Christ for miscariages for every Steward must give account of his stewardship the civill Magistrate of his and Church-governours of theirs and if the same men will take both temporall and spirituall government upon them they will have such an account to make in that day as few are sensible of for the present Therefore let all be advised what they doe and take heed how they leane to the wisdome of naturall men what parts so ever they have in things of this nature rather hearken to those that are religiously wise and judicious and conscientious so Christ shall have his right and the civill Magistrate shall have no wrong but power and honour though without trenching upon the Churches right and God be glorified and many trespassers shall be brought to repentance and their spirits saved in the day of the Lord Jesus which was that which the holy Apostle aymed at in all Church-censures and which we ought all to ayme at in the feare of God And thus much touching the act of God in defeating the good counsell of Ahithophel the great Politician of Israel Before I come to the processe of the judgement against Absalom a question may be touching that which Hushai did whether it were lawfull or no I answer it was a military stratageme and he had instruction from David to doe what he did And in sundry places of Scripture we find examples of such practises God taught Joshua to lay an ambush for those of Ai as such things have been done by Alexander and other famous men of warre among the heathen so by the Israelites and their Leaders of eminent note having to deale with such enemies as Hushai was to deale with it was no time for plain dealing not that it is lawfull for men in warre to say and doe any thing there are certain cautions to be observed 1. That no poysoning be used or privie murthering 2. That faith once given be not broken 3. That the law of armes be kept not violated There must be respect had to Honour and Honesty There is no comparison between that which Ahithophel did and that which Hushai did there was cunning but honest cunning for it was in a good cause and for the publick good it was to save David and the godly partie with him and he shewed fidelity to his friend that confided in him Let there be a faire interpretation of his words and a favourable judgement given of his doings and that which Hushai did is rather imitable than culpable and may be done in the like case without offence to God and it may be observed in the text that God owned that which he did as his act and deed had any serv'd David as Hushai did Absalom it had been wicked the wicked may not doe that to the righteous which the righteous may do to them the righteous may pray against the wicked so may not the wicked against the righteous the righteous may and ought to despise the wicked but the wicked may not despise the righteous the righteous may hate the wicked as David did but the wicked cannot hate the righteous without sin it is said they that hate the righteous shall be desolate it is never said they that hate the wicked shall be desolate a charge is given to Kings not to touch his anointed servants and to doe his Prophets no harme and he reproved Kings for their sakes he that toucheth the righteous toucheth the apple of his eye to those that speak evill of them it is threatned that they shall give account at the day of judgement God would have them know that he puts a difference between the Aegyptians and Israel and he would have all to know that he putteth a difference between the righteous and the wicked therefore we are to judge the best of that which Hushai did for the righteous against the wicked and rather justifie it than condemne it I come now to