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A67575 VindiciƦ academiarum containing some briefe animadversions upon Mr Websters book stiled, The examination of academies : together with an appendix concerning what M. Hobbs and M. Dell have published on this argument. Ward, Seth, 1617-1689.; Wilkins, John, 1614-1672. 1654 (1654) Wing W832; ESTC R12478 51,215 68

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of our Chymicall society so that I hope it will be charitably concluded that we are not ignorant of those hypostaticall principles yet how they should come to ravish the soule of M. Webster I cannot tell unlesse it should be in contemplation of the benefits he hath received from them viz. of Salt at Dinner of Sulphur in the Mange and of Mercury in Salivation 3. Magneticall Philosophy is not neglected here your selfe Sir are conscious of some Instruments that are prepared for those experiments as Loadstones rough and polished armed and naked a Terrella and diverse others and how it is a reall designe amongst us wanting only some assistance for execution to erect a Magneticall Mechanicall and Optick Schoole furnished with the best Instruments and Adapted for the most usefull experiments in all those faculties 4. How happy are you and I Sir and our ingenious acquaintance whose studies are toward Physick or Philosophy in this place who are all employed to salve Mechanically and statically the Phenomena of nature and have in some parts advanced the Philosophy of those he mentions How will it comfort us that we do and have done in many things what he would have us Qui monet ut facias quod jam facis ipse c. But least we should be lifted up behold him in the next Chapter thundering against the remainder of Arts and Sciences CAP. VII Of Metaphysicks Ethicks Politicks Oeconomicks Poesy and Oratory YOu see Sir how thick they come together and yet the Chap. consists but of three leaves and part of them is taken up with the repetition of that learned Proverbe Hercules is knowne by his foot and the Lyon by his pawe Do not you think Sir that this man lookes like Hercules He thinks so and he knowes how he lookes even like Hercules Furens and thence is the inequallity of his Ravings You had him in the former Chap. in his combate with strong men to take from them their steely armes of demonstration But no Mortall wight no Hero is able to persist to perpetuity we see here the great Alcides or Goliah fainting not able to weild his Weavers beame or Fustilogge letting it fall at all adventures himselfe forlorne of friends his strength and reason fled away But though the storme be past therere may be danger from these after drops Alcides may stūble oppresse the Sciences with his fall and a man may be wounded with the convulsive graspe of a dying Lyon Let us observe therefore and either decline or repell these last attempts against the Learning of the Academies Against Metaphysicks his exceptions are these 1. It brings no better instrument for the discovery of truth then the operation of the Intellect Why hath Mr W. any better instrument then this Is it sense or is it revelation What is his instrument or toole that he preferres before the Intellect of man The man is mad why doe I trouble him 2. It containes no certaine principles the principle of mens Cogitans is more certaine and undeniable then that of the Schooles Impossibile est idem simul esse non esse It seemes he is in a case to swallow Contradictions and can assert that a thing can simul esse non esse I warrant this man doth believe transubstantiation how is his throat widened since he was so streight as not to admit the inference of a conclusion in a true Syllogisme but then was then and now is now omnium rerum est vicissitudo Yet Des Cartes will give him little thankes for acknowledging his Principle Cogito ergo sum if a thing may simul esse non esse 3. The summe of the remainder is this though by a speciall gift he hath multiplyed it into three arguments That Metaphysicks is of no Profit but to obscure the truth hath produced none but weake frivolous opinions concerning God c. and the poisonous Cocatrice egs of Altercation I answer Sir that I have no inclination to grapple with the wind or deale with wild universalityes I am of opinion that there is much to be considered of amended in the Metaphysicks but that upon this occasion he hath only discovered an art he hath which might have saved him the labour of all particulars by saying at once both to the Schooles and Sciences that they are evill and not good yea even wicked frivolous and abominable His next touch is at Ethicks and his Exceptions are 1. Against Aristotle who was a Heathen and did not acknowledge God And you say Sir Mr Webster is a Friar yet Aristotle acknowledged a First Mover if that be not God what is it 2. He placed the summum bonum in the exercise of virtue but the summum bonum is not attaineable in this life But he was disputing what was the summum bonum in this Life and if virtue be the way to Life Eternall it is certainely that summum bonum 3. They have taught nothing practicable We are sorry that Mr Webster finds Justice Prudence Temperance Modesty c. unpracticable but so it seemes it is with him and yet he will be our Reformer 4. Aristotle takes the preheminence of that which is deduced from the Principles of Christianity and is unjustly preferred before Socrates Plato Zeno Seneca Epictetus who containe more precious Treasure But where is it O thou roaring Lyon seeking whom thou maist devour or rather thou Essex-Lyon that Aristotle is preferred before Christ Is it at Oxford or at Cambridge Are not the Christian Ethicks of Daneus Scultetus Amesius Aquinas others beside all those Authors you have mentioned read studyed and preferred before him in the Universities What shall be done unto thee O thou leasing toungue Politicks His exception against the Politicks read in the Universities is very faint and thinne being only this That Plato Bodin Machavell are as good as Aristotle though he have many things of singular use which is the first good word he hath given him and that our Country man M. Hobbs is more profound and yet we read Aristotle in the Vniversities Rhetorick And the same is his Exception against Rhetorick We read Aristotle and spend too much time upon ornamentall Oratory and Poetry which are gifts of nature Ans. Had this man found any one that had written whole Bookes against these Arts of Aristotle so as Gassendus Helmont c. against his Logick and Naturall Phylosophy and a Translator ready to assist him these Arts and Sciences had not thus escaped him now he can only clatter at Aristotle and clamour against the Schooles for reading him Plato Bodin Macchiavel are as good as Aristotle well and Aristotle as good as them what then But Mr Hobbs is more profound c. 'T is true our Theologues say he is bottomed in the great Abysse Againe Aristotle in his Rhetorick must give way to Plato I will not repeat what I have said and you Sir before me concerning the Liberty and variety amongst us But I affirme