foundation do hold that the same body is offered vnto God by the Priest in his daily massings to put away the sinnes of the quicke and the dead But one sacrifice in the scripture Whereas by the Apostle to the Hebrewes it is euident that there is but one oblation and one true and liuely sacrifice of the Church offered vpon the aultar of the crosse which was is and shall be for euer the propitiation for the sinnes of the whole world and where there is remission of the same there is sayth the Apostle no more offering for sinne ¶ Arguments confirming his aunswere Ce No sacrifice ought to be done but where the Priest is meete to offer the same The first argument Heb. 5. la All other Priests be vnmeete to offer sacrifice propitiatory for sinne saue only Christ rent Ergo no other Priests ought to sacrifice for sinne but Christ alone The second part of my argument is thus proued Fe No honour in Gods Church ought to be takeÌ„ whervnto a man is not called as Aaron ri It is a great honor in Gods Church to sacrifice for sin Argument son Ergo No man ought to sacrifice for sinne but onely they which are called But onely Christ is called to that honour Ergo no other priest but Christ ought to sacrifice for sin That no man is called to this degree of honour but Christ alone Heb. 7 it is euident For there are but two onely orders of Priesthood allowed in the word of God namely the order of Aaron and the order of Melchisedech But now the order of Aaron is come to an ende by reason that it was vnprofitable and weake and of the order of Melchisedech there is but one Priest alone euen Christ the Lord which hath a priesthoode that can not passe to any other Another Argument Ba That thing is in vaine and to no effect where no necessitie is wherefore it is done ro To offer vp any more sacrifice propitiatory for the quicke and the dead there is no necessitie for Christ our sauiour did that fully and perfectly once for all co Ergo to do the same in the Masse it is in vayne Heb. 9. Another Argument Fe After that eternall redemption is found and obtained there needeth no more dayly offering for the same Ab vna causa veritatis ad propositionem habentem illam causam valet consequentia ri But Christ comming an high Bishop c. found and obteined for vs eternall redemption o. Ergo there needeth now no more daily oblation for the sinnes of the quicke and the dead Another Argument Ca All remission of sinnes commeth only by shedding of bloud mes In the Masse there is no shedding of bloud tres Ergo in the Masse there is no remission of sinnes and so it foloweth also that ther is no propitiatory sacrifice Another Argument In the Masse the passion of Christ is not in verity but in a mistery representing the same yea euen there where the Lords supper is duly ministred But where Christ suffereth not there is he not offered in verity Heb â— for the Apostle sayeth Not that he might offer vp himselfe often times for then must he haue suffered often times sith the beginning of the world now where Christ is not offered there is no propitiatory sacrifice Ergo in the Masse there is no propitiatory sacrifice For Christ appeared once in the latter end of the world to put sin to flight by the offering vp of himselfe And as it is appoynted to all men that they shall once dye and then commeth the iudgement euen so Christ was once offered to take away the sinnes of many And vnto them that looke for him shall he appeare agayne without sinne vnto saluation Another Argument Da Where there is any sacrifice that can make the commers thereunto perfect there ought men to cease from offering any mo expiatory and propitiatory sacrifices ri But in the new testament there is one onely sacrifice now already long since offered which is able to make the commers thereto perfect for euer j. Ergo in the new testament they ought to cease from offering any more propitiatory sacrifice Sentences of the Scripture tending to the same ende and purpose out of which also may be gathered other manifest arguments for more confirmation thereof BY the which will sayth the Apostle we are sanctified by the offering vp of the body of Iesus Christ once for all Heb. 10. And in the same place But this man after that he had offered one sacrifice for sinne sitteth for euer at the right hand of God c. For with one offering hath he made perfect for euer them that are sanctifyed and by himselfe hath he purged our sinnes By â—â—mselfâ— I beseech you to marke these wordes by himselfe the whiche well wayed will without doubt cease all controuersie The Apostle playnely denieth any other sacrifice to remaine for him that treadeth vnder his feete the bloud of â—e testament by the which he was made holy Christ wil not be crucified againe he will not his death to be 〈◊〉 derision He hath reconcyled vs in the body of his flesh Coloss. 1â— Make I beseech you he sayth not in the mistery of his body But in the body of his flesh If any man sinne we haue an aduocate with the father 1. Ioan. â— Iesus Christ the righteous and he is the propitiaâ—ion for our sinnes not for ours only but for the sinnes of the â—â—ole world I know that all these places of the Scripture are auoyded by two maner of subtile shiftes The popisâ— distinction betweene bloudy and vnbloudy sacrifice the one is by the distinction of the bloudy and vnbloudy sacrifice as though our vnbloudy sacrifice of the Church were any other then the sacrifice of praise and thankesgeuing then a commemoration a shewing foorth and a sacrameÌ„tall representation of that one only bloudy sacrifice offred vp once for all The other is by deprauing and wrasting the sayings of the auncient Fathers vnto such a straunge kinde of sense The papistâ— maintayne their sacrifice propitiâ—atory by thâ— old Doctoâ— falsly wrasted as the Fathers themselues in deede neuer ment For what the meaning of the Fathers was it is euidente by that which S. Augustine writeth in his Epistle to Boniface in the 83. chapter of his 9. booke against Faustus the Manichee besides many other places likewise by Eusebius Emisene Cyprian Chrysostome Fulgentius Bertram and others Doctors making against the propitiatorâ— sacrifice of the masse which do wholy concord and agree together in this vnity in the Lord that the redemption once made in verity for the saluation of man continueth in full effect for euer and worketh without ceassing vnto the end of the world that the sacrifice once offered can not be consumed that the Lords death and passion is as effectuall the vertue of that bloud once shead as freshe at this day
sufferaunce might be found vnexcusable and seeme to consent to that which you do not resist Here we omitte and passe ouer what enormity and more the enormity that is that such a great and so deuoute a nation should by one fryer who relinquishing the Catholique fayth and Christian religion which he before professed playeth the Apostata hath lyed to God be nowe seduced from that way whiche first * * Christ and his Apostles taught vs that we are saued by Fayth onely in the Sonne of God the same doeth Luther preache and the Pope denyeth Holy Martyrs and fathers in the old time ministred the Communion in both kindes to the people and taught that fayth was necessary in receauing the Sacramentes the same doth Luther affirme and the Pope denyeth the old way of the fathers was this that they neuer had any aduocates and mediators but Christ alone and that they neuer solde the merites of Christes passion for money In the same way doeth Luther now walke whereas the pope hath deuised a newe way to walke in for money with an hundreth other new deuises newe sectes and newe ordinances which the olde fathers neuer knewe Christ our redemer his blessed apostles haue opened vnto vs which so many Martyrs so many holy Fathers so many greate learned men also your owne foreelders and old auncitours haue alwayes hitherto walked in as though onely Luther had all wit and cunning as though he onely nowe first had receiued the holy ghost as the heretick Montanus vsed to boast of himselfe or as though the Church froÌ„ which Christ our sauiour promised himselfe neuer to depart hath erred hitherto alwayes in darcke shadowes of ignorance and perdition tyll now it should be illuminate with newe râ—splendent beames of Luther Al which thinges there is no doubt but to such as haue iudgement will seeme ridiculous but yet may be pernitious to simple and ignoraunt mindes and to the other which being wery of all good order do gape stil for new changes may breed matter and occasion of such mischiefes as partly your selues haue experienced already And therfore do you not consider O princes and people of Germany that these be but prefaces preambles to those euils and mischiefes which Luther with the secte of his Lutherianes do intend purpose here after * * The doctrine of Luther hath bin preached in Germanie aboue these 40. yeares and yet is there neuer a Prince nor Magistrate nor Citizen in Germany God be praysed which by the doctrine of Luther is worse by one halfepeny whereas by the pope good reckenyng hath beene made that Germany hath bin worse by 3000000. Florens by the yeare Out of the territory of the bishop of Ments amounteth to the Pope for the Archbishops Palle 26000. Florens In the counsel of Basil it was openly declared that 9. Millions of Gold were gathered in the tyme of Pope Martyne and translated to Rome Pag. 698. Nowe let the Princes of Germany consider this Do you not see playnly perceiue with your eyes that this defending of the verity of the Gospell first begun by the Lutherians to be pretended is now manifest to be but an inuentioÌ„ to spoile your goods which they haue long inteÌ„ded Or do you thinke that these sonnes of iniquity do tend to any other thing then vnder the name of liberty to supplant obedience and so to open a generall * * The preaching of ChristiaÌ„ libertie of the soule breaketh no ciuil order touching the outwarde Obedience of the bodie But the Pope would haue the soules of men in his bondage and therfore he can not abide this inwarde libertie of the spirite to be touched for that were agaynst the popes purse and profite which were an heresie intollerable licence to euery man to do what him listeth And suppose you that they will any thing regard your commauÌ„dementes or esteeme * * This is no good consequent Luther burned the popes stinckyng decretals Ergo hee wil not sticke also to burn the bookes of the ciuil law your lawes whiche so contemptuously vilipend the holy Canons and decrees of the fathers yea and the most holy Councels also to whose authorite the Emperors lawes haue alwayes geuen roome and place not onely vilipeÌ„d them but also with a diabolicall audacitye haue not feared to rent them in pieces and set them on a light fire They which refuse to render due obedience to priestes to byshops yea to the high bishop of al which dayly before your owne faces make theyr bootyes of Church goodes and of thinges consecrated to God thinke ye that they will refrayne theyr sacrilegious handes froÌ„ the spoyle of lay mens goods yea that they wil not plucke from you whatsoeuer they can rap or reaue The persecuting pagans in the olde time did obiect to the old Fathers of the Primatiue church the blasphemies of Thyestes supper and of the incest of Oedipus the worshipping also of an Asses head pag. 43.39 In much like sort doth the pope heere lay vnto Luther riots rebellions and all mischiefes hee can deuise not because they be true but because hee would haue the world so to beleue Finally to conclude how can you hope that they will more spare you or hold theyr murthering handes from your throates which haue bene so bold to vexe to kill to slay the Lordes annoynted which are not to be toucbed Nay thinke you not contrary but this miserable calamity will at length redound vpon you your goodes your houses wiues children dominioâ—s possessions these your temples which you hallow reuereÌ„ce except you prouide some speedy remedy agaynst the same Wherefore we exhort your fraternities nobilities deuotions of all and singuler in the Lord and beseech you for Christian charity religion for which religion your forefathers oft times haue geuen their bloud to vpholde and encrease the same and notwithstanding require you also in vertue of that obedience which all Christians owe to God blessed S Peter Obedience to God and to S. Peter and to his vicare do not well match together by the Scripture for the obedience to the Creator is one and the obedience to the creature is an other and to his Vicar here in earth that setting aside all other quarrels and dissentions among our selues you conferre your helping handes euery man to quench this publique fire and endeuour and study the best way ye can howe to reduce the sayd M. Luther and all other fautours of these tumultes and errours to better conformitye and trade both of lyfe and fayth And if they which be infected shal refuse to heare your admonitioÌ„s yet proued that the other part which yet remayneth sound by the same contagion be not corrupted He to whom all secretes of men are open doth know how we both for our nature and also for our pastorall office whereto we are called are much more prone to remit then to reuenge But when this
that he hath affirmed published taught diuers opinions of Luther and wicked heresies after that he was summoned to appeare before vs and our Councell That man hath no free will That man is in sinne so long as he liueth That childreÌ„ incontinent after their baptisme are sinners All Christians that bee woorthie to bee called Christians doo knowe that they are in grace No man is iustifyed by workes but by fayth onely Good workes make not a good man but a good man doth make good workes That fayth hope and charitie are so knit that hee that hath the one hath the rest and hee that wanteth the one of them wanteth the rest c. with diuers other heresies and detestable opinions and hath persisted so obstinate in the same that by no counsayle nor perswasion he may be drawne therefrom to the way of our right faith All these premisses being considered we hauing God and the integritie of our fayth before our eyes Wolues in â—ambes 〈◊〉 and following the counsayle and aduise of the professours of the holy Scripture men of law and others assisting vs for the tyme do pronounce determine and declare the said M Patrike Hamelton for his affirming confessing and mayntayning of the foresayd heresies and his pertinacitie they being condemned already by the Church generall Councels and most famous Vniuersities to be an hereticke and to haue an euill opinion of the fayth and therefore to be condemned and punished like as we condemne and define him to be punished by this our sentence definitiue depriuing and sentencing him to be depriued of all dignities honours orders offices and benefices of the Church M. patricke geuen to the secular power and therefore do iudge and pronounce him to be deliuered ouer to the secular power to be punished and his goodes to be confiscate This our sentence definitiue was geuen and read at our Metropolitane Church of S. Andrewes the last day of the moneth of February an 1527. being present the most reuerend fathers in Christ and Lords Gawand Byshop of Glasgow George Byshop of Dunkelden Iohn Byshop of Brecham William Byshop of Dunblane Patrike Prior of S. Andrew Dauid Abbot of Abirbrothoke George Abbot of Dunfermeling Alexander Abbot of Caunbuskyneth Henry Abbot of Lendors Iohn Prior of Pittyrweme the Deane and Subdeane of Glasgow M. Hugh Spens Thomas Ramsay Allane Meldrun c. In the presence of the Cleargy and the people After the condemnation and Martyrdome of this true Saint of God was dispatched by the Byshops and Doctours of Scotland the rulers and Doctours of the Uniuersitie of Louane hearing therof receaued such ioy consolation at the sheding of that innocent bloud that for the aboundance of hart they could not stay their penne to vtter condigne thanks applauding and triumphing in their letters sent to the foresaid Bishop of S. Andrewes Doctours of Scotland at the worthy famous deseruings of their aâ—chieued enterprise in that behalfe as by the tenour of their sayd letter may appeare which heere foloweth ¶ The copie of a letter congratulatorie sente from the Doctours of Louane to the Archbysh of S. Andrewes and Doctours of Scotland commending them for the death of mayster Patrike Hamelton A letter of thankes sent froÌ„ Louane to them of Scotland for shedding the bloud of Patricke Hamelton YOur excellent vertue most honourable Bishop hath so deserued that albeit we be farre distant both by sea and land without coniunction of familiaritie yet we desire with all oure harts to thanke you for your woorthy deede by whose workes that true faith which not long ago was taynted wyth heresie not only remayneth vnhurt but also is more confirmed For as oure deare friend M. Alexander Galoway Chanon of Aberdon hath shewed vs the presumption of the wicked hereticke Patrike Hamelton which is expressed in this your example in that you haue cut him off when there was no hope of amendement c. The which thing as it is thought commendable to vs so the maner of the proceeding was no lesse pleasaunt What ioy the Papistes make in spilling the bloud of Christians that the matter was perfourmed by so great consent of so many estates as of the Cleargy nobilitie and vulgare people not rashly but most prudently the order of law being in all poyntes obserued We haue seene the sentence which ye pronounced and alway do approue the same not doubting but that the Articles which be inserted are erroneous so that whosoeuer will defend for a truth any one of the same with pertinacitie shoulde be esteemed an enemie to the fayth and an aduersary to the holy Scripture And albeit one or two of them appeare to be without errour If ye coulde shew to what place of the scripture we would gladly beare you to them that wyll consider onely the bare words as for example good woorkes make not a good man but a good man worketh good workes yet there is no doubt but they conteyne a Lutherane sense which in a maner they signifie to wit that workes done after fayth and iustification make not a man the better nor are worthy of any rewarde before God Beleeue not that this example shall haue place onely among you for there shall be among externe nations which shall imitate the same c. Certaynly ye haue geuen vs great courage so that now we acknowledge your Vniuersitie which was founded according to the example of our Vniuersitie of Louane to be equall to ours or else aboue and would God occasion were offered of testifying our mindes towarde you In the meane time let vs labour wyth one consent that the rauening Wolues may be expelled from the sheepefold of Christ while we haue tyme. Let vs study to preach to the people more learnedly hereafter The vniuersity of S. Andrewes was founded about the yeare of our Lord 1416. in the reigne of kyng Iames the first who brought into Scotland out of other countreyes 2. Doctors of Diuinitie and 8. Doctors of decrees with diuers other Hect. Boet. Libâ— 16. cap. 17. and more wisely Let vs haue Inquisitours espyers of bookes coÌ„taining that doctrine especially that is brought in from farre countreys whether by a postatiue Monkes or by Marchauntes the most suspected kynde of meÌ„ in these dayes It is sayd that since Scotland first embraced the ChristiaÌ„ fayth it was neuer defiled with any heresie Perseuere therfore being moued thereunto by the exaÌ„ple of England your next neighbour which in this most troublous tyme is not chauÌ„ged partly by the working of the Bishops amoÌ„g the which * * He meaneth Fisher B. of Rochester who wrote against Oecolampadyuâ— and Luther and at length was beheaded for treason K. Henry 8. is here a Matthias when he maketh with you but when he put downe the pope and his Abbeyes theÌ„ ye make him an hereticke Roffensis hath sheweth himselfe an Euangelicall Phoenix and partly of the kyng declaring himselfe to be an other Mathias of the new law
Such was the power of his doctrine and sinceritie of his life M. Tindall conuerted his keeper that during the time of his imprisonment whiche endured a yeare and a halfe it is sayde hee conuerted hys keeper his daughter and other of his household Also the rest that were with him conuersaunt in the Castle reported of him that if he were not a good christen man they could not tell whome to trust The Procuror generall the Emperours Attourney being there Commendation of M. Tindall 〈…〉 were about him left this testimonie of him that he was Homo doctus pius bonus that is a learned a good and a godly man The same mornyng in which he was had to the fire he deliuered a letter to the keeper of the castle which y e keeper himselfe brought to the house of y e foresayd Pointz in Autwerpe shortly after which letter with his examinatiōs other his disputations I would might haue come to our handes all which I vnderstād did remaine yet perhaps doe in the handes of the keepers daughter For so it is of him reported that as he was in the Castle prisoner there was much writyng and great disputation to and fro betwene him and them of the Uniuersitie of Louaine which was not past ix or x. myles from the place where he was prisoner in such sorte that they all had enough to do and more then they could well weld to aunswere the authorities and testimonies of the Scripture whereupō he most pithely grounded his doctrine Of Iudas that betrayed Christ it is written that he returned the money agayne to the Phariseis Gods Iudgment vpon Philippes the betrayer of Tindall afterward did hang him selfe So Philippes this miserable traytor after he had bene receaued of Tyndal borrowed money of him yet betrayed him and pursued him to death albeit he reioyced a while after y t he had done yet y e saying so goeth that he not long tyme after enioyed the price of innocent bloud but was consumed at last with lyce The worthy vertues and doings of this blessed Martyr who for his paynefull trauailes and singular zeale to his countrey may be called in these our dayes an Apostle of Englād it were long to recite Amongest many other this because it seemeth to me worthy of remembraunce I thought not in silence to ouerpasse which hath vnto me credibly bene testified by certaine graue Marchauntes some of thē also such as were present the same tyme at the fact and men yet alyue The story wherof is this There was at Antwerpe on a tyme amongest a company of Marchauntes as they were at supper a certaine iuggler which through his diabolicall inchaūtementes or Art Magicall would fetch all kyndes of viandes wyne from any place they would and set it vpon the table incōtinent before them with many other such lyke thynges The same of this iuggler beyng much talked of it chaunced that as M. Tyndall heard of it he desired certaine of the Marchants that he might also be present at supper to see him play his partes To be briefe the supper was appointed and the Marchauntes with Tyndall were there present Then the iuggler being required to play his feates and to shewe his cunning after his wonted boldnes began to vtter all that he could do but all was in vaine At the last The power of Gods saintes against the deuil with hys labour sweating and toyling when he sawe that nothyng would go forward but that all his enchauntmentes were voyde he was compelled openly to confesse that there was some man present at supper which disturbed and letted all his doings So that a man euen in the Martyrs of these our dayes can not lacke the miracles of true faith if miracles were now to be desired As concerning y e workes and bookes of Tyndall which extend to a great number thou wast tolde before louyng reader howe the Printer heereof mindeth by the Lordes leaue W. Tyndals workes looked for to be all set out in one volum◠to collect them all in one Uolume together and put them out in print Wherefore it shall not greatly at thys time be needefull to make any seuerall rehearsall of them And as touching his translation of the new Testament because his enemies did so much carpe at it pretending it to be so full of heresies to aunswere therfore to their sclanderous tongs and lieng lippes thou shalt heare and vnderstand what faithfull dealing and sincere conscience he vsed in the same by the testimonie allegation of his own words The faithfull dealing of Tindall in translating the newe testament written in his Epistle to Iohn Frith as foloweth I call God to record against the day we shall appeare before our Lord Iesus to geue a reckening of our doings y t I neuer altered one sillable of Gods word against my cōscience nor would do this day if all that is in earth whether it be honour pleasure or riches might be geuē me c. And as ye haue heard Tyndals owne words thus protesting for himselfe now let vs heare likewise the faithfull testimonie of Iohn Frith for Tindall his deare companion and brother thus declaring in his aunswere to mayster More as followeth The testimony of Iohn Frith in his booke of the Sacrament concerning William Tyndall The testimony of Iohn Frith for Tindall ANd Tyndall I trust liueth well content with suche a poore Apostles life as God gaue his sonne Christ and his faithfull Ministers in this world which is not sure of so many mites as ye be yearely of poundes although I am sure that for his learning and iudgement in Scripture he were more worthy to be promoted then all the Bishops in Englande The wordes of Tindall written to Iohn Frith I receaued a letter from him whiche was written since Christmas wherein among other matters he writeth this I call God to record against the daye wee shall appeare before our Lord Iesus to geue a reckening of our doings that I neuer altered one sillable of Gods word against my conscience nor woulde do this day if all that is in earth whether it be honour pleasure or riches might be geuen me Moreouer I take God to witnesse to my conscience that I desire of God to my selfe in this world no more then that without which I can not keepe his lawes c. Iudge Christian Reader whether these words be not spoken of a faithfull cleare innocent hart And as for his behauiour is such that I am sure no man can reproue him of any sinne howbeit no man is innocent before God which beholdeth the hart This much out of Frith And thus being about to conclude and finishe wyth the life and story of William Tindall Ex lib. Tind praxit Praelatorum it shall be requisite now that the Reader do heare some thing likewise of his supplication made to the King and nobles of the Realme as they are yet
sunt omnia Mandauit creata sunt vniuersa Potens ergo est He is a mighty bishop Wee are not so Fidelis Pontifex He is a faythfull bishop faythfull He is a faythfull bishop to God referring all laudes Fidelis all honour and glory to his father In all thinges that he did miracles or other he tooke neuer the more vpon himselfe He was also a faythfull Bishop to the world For he did all that belonged to the office of a good Byshop The very office of a byshop is praedicare orare sacricare siue offerre To preach to pray to do sacrifice or to offer Three offices of a byshop If he had placed here administraâ—â— sacramenta for sacâ—ificaâ—e his partitioÌ„ so might haue stand Math. 14. He preached to his people He taught the worlde most wholesome doctrine whereby he called the people to God he conuerted sinners he called them to penaunce He made them weepe and lameÌ„t their sinnes They folowed his person they folowed his word they folowed his ensample They came out of all costs to see him to heare him to learne of him They forsooke meat and drinke house and home and folowed him wheresoeuer he went as well in wildernes as els where In so much that after they had folowed him three dayes he being moued with pity least they shoulde perish for lacke of food being in wildernesse farre from succour he fed them twise miraculously Once in the desert with fiue loaues and two fishes he fed v. M. men besides women and children and there were left xij great baskets xij maundes full of the brokelets and offals at that meale Math. 15. At another time he fed in wildernesse to the number of 4. M. men besides women and children with seuen loues and a few litle fishes and there was left of fragmentes 7 maundes full The second office of a byshop he fulfilled also For he prayed The second office of a Byshop is to pray He was most deuout in prayer so to teach all byshops and Preachers not to presume in theyr witte or learning neither in their capacity memory fayre tongue or vtteraunce but that the Preacher do studiously apply his booke with all diligence to studye how to speake what to speake afore whom he shall speake and to shape his sermon after the audience The preacher ought also besides his study preaching to pray For by deuout prayer he shal attein percase as much or more as by study or learning For with out prayer the wordes will litle preuayle Looke in Christ his life and thou shalt find that in euery thing he weÌ„t about he prayd Luke 6. to shew the valiancy the vertue and strength of prayer to shew our necessities our weakenes feblenes of nature He prayd for his people as Luke witnesseth the space of one whole night And what a maruailous deuout prayer made he for his people in the Mount the night afore his passion Math. 26. wheÌ„ the Chalice of death was represeÌ„ted vnto him when he swet water bloud when he cried thrise Transeat à me Calix iste let this Chalice let this passion bloud let the vertue therof passe from me vnto all mankinde Let euery man haue the vertue and merite thereof let it worke in all folkes let euery faythfull man and woman he perteyner thereof let it not be lost but worke to the worldes end This was a maruellous deuoute mercifull prayer And agayne he suffering and hanging on the crosse offered vp for his people Heb. 5. The cry of Christ on the Crosse. The heaueÌ„s trembled The Angels mourned The Sunne lost his light· The veile riued The earth quaued The stones rent The graues opened The dead rose Preces supplicationes cum clamore valido lachrymis He offred vp his praiers and supplications with a huge cry with a piteous voyce with a lamentable and deadly shrich and with weeping teares to God his father he hanging on the crosse euen when the spirit shoulde departe the body not then forgetting his people at the houre when all the people forgetteth both the worlde and themselues Which cry was so huge and great so maruelous and of that effect that the heauens trembled thereat the Angels mourned for pity the Sunne lost his light the vaile in the temple riued in two the earth quaued the stones rent asonder and brast in gobbetes the graues opened the dead bodies rose to life appeared in the City Centurio those that kept Christ to see the execution done cried Verè filius Dei erat iste This was the vndoubted sonne of God His prayer and weeping teares were so pleasaunt vnto the father that it was heard Exauditus est pro reuerentia sua He was heard why For it was so entire so deuout so reuerently done in such a maner and fashion with such a zeale grounded vpoÌ„ such a charity suffering for our guilt and not for his owne And for that he did the very office of a byshop so entyrely to pray and so reuerently to offer vp himselfe in sacrifice for his people he was heard he was heard his prayer was heard of God And that is the third property of a good Bishop to offer sacrifice for his people Euery Bishop euery Bishoppe for his Diocesanes and for the whole vniuersall Church In these three we ought as much as we may to folow Christ. The third 〈◊〉 of a â—â—shop is to â—â—nister and 〈◊〉 to 〈◊〉 oâ— offer Thus this Christ was and is Pontifex fidelis a faythfull Byshop Faythfull faythfull in his word true in his promise deceyuing no man but profiting all â—n al that he did or spake he sought nothing his own glory but the glory of God teaching therby all Byshops of the world in all that go about to doe it to the laude prayse and glory of God And herein we ought also to followe hym â—agnus Magnus Pontifex He is the great Bishop the high Byshoppe the supreme Byshop the vniuersall Bishop ouer all the world No great bishop but he No great Bishop but 〈◊〉 Christ. None high none supreme nor vniuersall Byshop but he And herein the byshop of Rome outragiously vsurpeth vpon God as he doth vpon the world to take the honor and names onely to God appropriate to himselfe â—he Pope blaspheâ—eth God and doth greuously blaspheme and offend God therein Greater blasphemy can not be then to ascribe to God that that no wayes belongeth vnto him or to take froÌ„ God that that is vnto him appropriate It is meete therefore he do betimes and in season leaue his vniust encrochmentes both agaynst his Lord God and also agaynst the world least he do prouoke God to poure out all his vialles of wrath vpon him That is â—â—asphemie the Vaees I meane the maledictions and vengeaunce that Iohn speaketh of in the Apocalips Apoc. 9. I woulde aduise hym to cease the iniuries which he hath dayly
Berengarius Zuinglius Oecolampadius and many others who are certaynely knowen to be of no lesse variaunce amongest themselues then vncertayn of theyr fayth what to beleeue Zuinglius wryteth thus of hymselfe Although this thyng which I meane to intreate of doth lyke me very well yet notwithstandyng I dare define nothyng but only shew my poore iudgement abroad to others that if it please the Lord others may be therby instructed by the spirit of God which teacheth all good thynges In vayne doe I spende many wordes You see playnely he dare not define anye thyng certainely but doubteth whether it please GOD or not Oecolampadius writyng to a certayne brother of hys sayth thus Peace be with thee As farre as I can coniecture out of the learned Fathers these wordes Iohn 6. This is my body be figuratiue locutions c. You see hereby how vncertaine they be of their opinions They leane not to the Scriptures to Doctors nor yet to the trueth but to supposals and coniectures who therefore hereafter wyll cleane vnto them But nowe I come to your Oration whose beginnyng pleased me very well and whose progresse therein offended me not But in the end you concluded in such sort that you left the whole matter to me as it were confirmyng my partes by the same And herein you framed a Syllogisme after this maner What Christ tooke that he blessed what he blessed that he brake what he brake that he gaue Ergo what he receyued he gaue c. Whereto I aunswer wyth a lyke Syllogisme out of Genesis God tooke a ribbe out of Adams side what hee tooke he built what he built that he brought what he brought that hee gaue to Adam to be hys wyfe but he tooke a ribbe Ergo he gaue a ribbe to Adam to wyfe c. Also in your sayd Oration you shute much at those wordes of Paule where he calleth it bread so often c. But the Scripture in another place calleth it water when in deede it was wyne a rodde when it was a playne serpent Rochest You haue pretended great zeale words inough but what pith or substance your reasons will affourd we shall see hereafter Vauisor Christ gaue the same flesh to vs that he receyued of the virgine but he tooke true and naturall flesh of her Ergo he gaue vs true and naturall fleshe My Maior I prooue by August vpon the 98. Psalme Rochest M. Uauisor you are in a wrong boxe for y e place maketh altogether for maintenāce of adoration if it make for any thyng Vauisor I know it very well and therefore I alledge it as the ground of my reason These bee Augustines woordes Christ of the earth receyued earth and of the flesh of Mary he receyued flesh acknowledge his substance therefore Rochest I acknowledge it Vauisor And in the very same flesh he walked here vppon the earth acknowledgge his substaunce Anno. 1549. Rochest I acknowledge it Vauisor And the very same fleshe he gaue vs to eate acknowledge hys substaunce Rochest I acknowlege not hys reall substance to be there but the propertie of hys substance Vauisor Then Uauisor recited the place to the ende hee myght prooue that hys reall substaunce ought to bee acknowledged as well in the last place as in the first and second affirmyng it out of Saint Augustine who sayeth thus The Disciples of Christ approchyng the Lordes table by fayth dranke the same bloud which the tormenters most cruelly spilt c. but the tormenters spilt no figure of bloud Ergo c. this place will not permit the other so to be illuded Rochest It is no illusion good M. Uauisor but surely you would moue a Saint with your impertinent reasons Vauisor I beseech your fatherhood to pardon my rudenes for surely I cannot otherwyse speake without breache of conscience Perne That place of Augustine is to bee vnderstoode of a spirituall kynd of eatyng Vauisor I demand whether the faythfull may receyue spiritually so as they neede not to receiue sacramentally Perne They may Vauisor Then thus to you To the spirituall eatyng there is no need to come to the Lordes table for so it is the meat of the soule not of the teeth but the faythfull come to the Lordes table Ergo that place is to be vnderstood of a sacramentall eatyng And agayne Augustine sayth that he caried hymselfe in hys hands Rochest Augustine sheweth a little after what he meaneth thereby where he sayeth he caried hymselfe in his owne hands after a certayne sort or maner Vauisor True it is that after one maner he sate at the table and after another maner was in the sacrament ¶ M. Yong here disputeth agaynst Perne as followeth Yong. I Understand the meanyng o◠this worde Proprietas proprietie well enough for in Hillarie and Eusebius it signifieth not the vertue or power of any substance or beyng but rather a naturall beyng or substance Rochest I commend your great diligence in searchyng of authors but in diuinitie the matter standeth not so for the proprietie of essence in the deitie is the very essence and whatsoeuer is in God is God Yong. True it is most reuerend father that this worde Proprietas proprietie in Hillary in hys 8. booke de Trinitate intreatyng there of the diuinitie of the father of the sonne and of the holy ghost is so meant and taken but the same Hillary almost in the same place speaketh of our communion and vnitie wyth Christ c. Tertullian also writyng of the resurrection of the flesh affirmeth that the fleshe of our sauiour is that whereof our soule is allied to God that is it which causeth that our soules are ioyned to hym but our flesh is made cleane that the soule may be purged our flesh is annoynted that the soule may be made holy the flesh is sealed that the soule may be comforted the fleshe is shadowed with the imposition of the handes that our soule may be lightened with the glory of the spirite Our flesh is clothed with a body and bloud that the soule may be fed and nourished of God Rochest The fleshe in deede is fed with the body and the bloud of the Lord When our bodyes be fed with the bodye and bloud of Christ when our bodies by mortification are made lyke to his body And our body is nourished when the vertue and power of the body of Christ doth feede vs. The same Tertullian is not afrayd to cal it flesh and bloud but he meaneth a figure of the same Yong. Then by your leaue it should follow by good consequence that where anye mortification is there must needes be a sacramentall communion which cannot be Ergo c. ¶ Here endeth the third and last Disputation holden at Cambridge 1549. This disputation continued three dayes In the first dyd aunswer Doctour Madew Agaynst whome disputed Doctour Glinne M. Langdale M. Segewike M. Young In the second disputation did answer Doctor Glinne Agaynst whome disputed M. Grindall
the deuill and defendeth meÌ„ from deceptions of phantasy c. Thus ye haue heard the author and father of holly water which some also ascribe to Pope Sixtus which succeeded Alexander But as y e Papists do not agree in the fyrst authour or institutor of this hallowing of Elementes so I thinke the same vntruely to be ascribed to either but leauing the probation of this to farther leasure let vs nowe heare in our owne tongue theyr owne words which y e vse in this theyr coniuration The forme and wordes vsed of the Priest in coniuring Salt I coniure thee thou creature of Salte by the ✚ liuyng God Salt coniured by the ✚ true God by the holy God c. That thou mayest be made a coniured Salte to the saluation of them that beleue And that vnto all suche as receiue thee thou mayest be health of soule and body and that from out of y e place wherein thou shalt be sprinckled may flie away and depart all phantasy wickednes or craftines of the deuils subtlety and euery foule spirit c. The forme of coniuring water Water coniured I coniure thee thou creature of water in the name of ✚ God the father almighty and in the name of Iesu Christ his sonne our Lord and in the vertue ✚ of the holy Ghost that thou become a coniured water to expell all power of the enemy c. Who seeth not in these wordes blasphemye intollerable how that which only is due to the bloud of Christ and promised to fayth onely in him the same is transferred to earthly and insensate creatures to be saluation both to bodye and spirite inwardlye to geue remission of sinnes to geue health and remedy agaynst euils and deuils against all phantasies wickednesse and all foule spirites and to expell the power of the enemy c. If this be true whereto serueth the bloud of Christ and the vertue of Christian fayth Therfore iudge thy selfe gentle Reader whether thou thinke this trompery rightly to be fathered vpon those ancient fathers aforenamed or els whether it may seme more like trueth that Iohn Sleydan writeth whose woordes in his second booke de Monarchijs are these Ioan 〈◊〉 danu◠〈◊〉 de 4. â—â—â—narch Horum decreta sunt in libris inserta conciliorum sed ex his plaeraque tam sunt leuicula tam nugatoria tam aliena prorsus a sacris literis vt credibile sit ab alijs longo post teÌ„pore fuisse conficta c. That is The decrees of these foresaid Bishops and Martyrs be inserted in the booke of Counsels but of these decrees many therof be so childish so trifling and so farre disagreeing from the holy scripture Many 〈…〉 imputeâ— the oldâ— theâ—â— which 〈◊〉 none oâ— theirs that it is very like that the same were fayned and counterfayted of others long after theyr time c. Thus muche sayth Sleydane with moe woordes in that place Unto whose testimony if I might be so bolde also to adde my coniecture I would suppose the coniuration of this foresayd water and Salte to spring out of the same fountayne from whence proceeded the coniuring of flowers and braunches because I see the order and manner of them both to be so like and vniforme as may appeare The maner of halowing flowers and braunches I coniure thee thou creature of flowers and brauÌ„ches in the name of ✚ God the father almighty Floures braunch hallowâ— and in the name ✚ of Iesu Christ his sonne our Lord and in the vertue of the holy ✚ Ghost Therfore be thou rooted out and displaÌ„ted from this creature of flowers and braunches all thou strength of the aduersary all thou host of the deuill and all the power of the enemy eueÌ„ euery assault of the deuils c. And thus much concerning the antiquity of holy bread and holy water wherby thou mayst partly coniecture the same not to be so olde as Steuen Gardiner in hys Letter agaynst mayster Ridley aboue mentioned woulde haue Pag. 753. being both deceiued himselfe and also goyng about to seduce other Furthermore as touching the reseruing of reliques the memoriall of sayntes brought into the masse Ex Actiâ— Rom. 〈◊〉 in 〈◊〉 Gregoriâ—â— Gregory the thyrd is the author therof who also added to the canon therof this clause Quorum solennitates hodie in coÌ„spectu diuinae maiestatis tuae celebrantur c. Finally it were to long to recite euery thing in order deuised and brought in particularly to the masse and to y e Church For after that mans brayne was once set on deuising it neuer coulde make an end of heaping rite vppon rite and ceremony vpon ceremonye till all religion was turned well nighe to superstition Thereof commeth oyle and creame brought in by Pope Siluester not wont to be hallowed but by a byshop Oyle 〈◊〉 creame The 〈◊〉 onelâ— linnen That the corporas shuld not be of silcke but onely of fine linnen cloth That the Psalmes should be song on sides the one side of the quier singing one verse the other an other with gloria patri c. That baptisme should be ministred at no other time in the yere but onely at Easter and at whitsontide saue onely to infantes and such as were in extreame infirmity and that it should be requyred 40. dayes before Autor 〈◊〉 Conciliâ—â— Tomo 〈◊〉 Hallow of the 〈◊〉 at Easteâ—â— Whitsoâ—â—tide Christ iâ— of bellâ— Ex ponâ— cali 〈…〉 No beaâ—â— so determined by Pope Siricius and therfore was it that fontes were halowed onely at these two seasons the which hallowing they keep yet still but the ordinaunce they haue reiecte Item that belles also were Christened Item no Prieste shoulde weare a beard or haue long hayre so appoynted by Pope Martine the first Item that auriculare confession shoulde be made that the booke of decrees and decretals should be stablished and transubstauntiation confirmed in whiche three Actes Pope Innocentius the thyrd was the chiefest doer Transuâ—â—stantiatâ—â— about the yeare of our Lord. 1215. And thus haue ye in sum the gatheringes of the masse with the Chanon and all the appurtenaunce of the same which not much vnlike to the Crow of Esope being patched with the feathers of so manye byrdes was so long a gethering that the temple of Salomon was not so long in building as the Popes Masse was in making Whereby iudge now thy selfe good Reader whether this Masse did proceede from Iames and other Apostles or no. And yet this was one of the principall causes for which so much turmoyle was made in the Church with the bloudshed of so many Godly men suffering in so many quarters of this realme some consumed by fire some pined away with huÌ„ger some hanged some slayne some racked some tormented one way some another and that onely or chiefelye for the cause of this aforesayd popish Masse as by the reading of this story folowing by the grace of Christ our Lord shall appeare more
the body of Christ in the sacrament c. At which wordes thus pronounced of y e Prolocutor vnwares diuers of the learned men there present considering and well weying the wordes by him vttered burst out into a great laughter as though euen in the entraunce of the disputations he had bewrayed himselfe and his Religion that termed the opinion of the verity of christes body in the Sacrament a detestable heresye The rest of his Oration tended all to this effect that it was not lawfull by Gods word to call these questions into cōtrouersy for such as doubted of the wordes of Christ myghte well be thought to doubte both of the trueth and power of God Whereunto Doctor Cranmer desiring licence aunswered in this wise We are assembled sayth he to discusse these doubtfull controuersies D. Cranmers aunswere to the preface and to lay them open before the eyes of the world whereof ye thinke it vnlawfull to dispute It is in deed no reason saith he that we should dispute of y t which is determined vpon before the trueth be tryed But if these questions be not called in controuersy surely mine answer then is looked for in vayne This was the summe and effect of his answere and this done he prepared himselfe to disputations Then Chedsey the first Opponent began in this wyse to dispute D. Chadsey Reuerend M. Doctor these 3. conclusions are put forth vnto vs at this present to dispute vpon 1 In the Sacrament of the aultar is the naturall body of Christe Articles conceiued of the Virgine Mary and also his bloud present really vnder the formes of bread wine by vertue of Gods word pronounced by the priest 2 There remayneth no substaunce of breade and wyne after the consecration nor any other substaunc but the substaunce of God and man 3 The liuely sacrifice of the Church is in the Masse propitiatory as well for the quicke as the dead These be the conclusions propounded wherupon this our present controuersye doth rest Nowe to the ende wee might not doubt how you take the same you haue already geuen vp vnto vs your opinion therof I terme it your opinion in that it disagreeth from the catholicke Wherefore thus I argue Ched Your opinion differeth from the scripture Ergo you are deceiued Argument Cranmer I deny the antecedent Ched Christ when he instituted his last supper spake to his Disciples Take eate this is my body which shall be geuen for you But his true body was geuen for vs Ergo his true body is in the sacrament ☞ The right forme of this Argument is thus to be framed Da The same which was geuē for vs is in y e sacrament Argument ri But his true body was geuen for vs j. Ergo his true body is in the sacrament Cran. His true body is truely present to them that truelye receiue him but spiritually Aunswere How Christes body is present in his Sacramēt And so is it taken after a spirituall sort For when he sayd This is my body it is all one as if he had sayde this is the breaking of my body this is the sheding of my bloud As oft as you shal do this it shal put you in remembraunce of the breaking of my body and the sheding of my bloud that as truely as you receiue this sacrament so truly shal you receiue the benefite promised by receiuing the same worthely Ched Your opinion differeth from the church which saith that the true body is in the sacrament Argument of the authority of the Church Ergo your opinion therin is false Cran. I say and agree with the Church that the bodye of Christ is in the sacrament effectually because the Passion of Christ is effectuall Aunswere Ched Christ when he spake these woordes This is my body spake of the substaunce but not of the effect Cran. I graunt he spake of the substaunce and not of the effect after a sorte and yet it is most true that the bodye of Christ is effectually in the sacrament But I denye that he is there truly presēt in bread Christes body effectually not substantially in the Sacrament or that vnder the bread in his organicall body And because it should be to tedious hee sayd to make discourse of the whole he deliuered vp there his opinion therof to D. Weston writtē at large with answeres to euery one of theyr 3. propositions which he disired D. Weston Papistes false of promise sitting there on high to read openly to the people which he promised to doe But it was not the first promise that such Papistes haue broken The copye of this writing although it were not there read yet the contentes therof here we haue drawne out as foloweth ¶ An explication of Cranmer vpon the foresayd Conclusions exhibited in writing CRan The contents of Cranmers explication geuen vp in writing In the assertions of the Church and of religion trifling and new fangled nouelties of wordes so much as may be are to be eschewed whereof riseth nothing but contention and brawling about wordes and we must follow so much as we may the maner of speaking of the scripture How Christ is really present In the first conclusion if ye vnderstand by thys worde really reipsa i. in very deede and effectuallye so Christe by the grace and efficacy of his Passion is in deed and truely present to all his true and holy members But if ye vnderstand by this word really Corporaliter i. Corporally Organicall is called that which is a perfect body hauing all the members and partes complete belonging vnto the same so that by the body of Christ is vnderstanded a natural body and organicall so the first proposition doth vary not onely from vsuall speach and the phrase of scripture but also is cleane contrary to the holy word of God christian profession when as both the scripture doth testify by these wordes and also the Catholicke church hath professed from the beginning Christ to haue left the world and to sit at the right hand of the father till he come vnto iudgement And likewise I aunswere to the second questiō that is that it swerueth from the accustomed maner and speach of Scripture Answere to the 2. Conclusion The thyrd conclusion as it is intricate and wrapped in all doubtful and ambiguous wordes Answere to the 3. Conclusion The 3. Conclusion contumelious agaynst Christ. diffring also much from the true speach of y e Scripture so as the wordes therof seeme to import in open sense it is most contumelious agaynst our onely Lord and Sauiour Christ Iesus and a violating of his precious bloud which vpon the aultar of the Crosse is the onely sacrifice and oblation for the sinnes of all mankinde Ched By this your interpretation which you haue made vpon the first conclusion this I vnderstand the bodye of Christ to be in the Sacramente onely by the way
speaking of Christ tropicall figuratiue anagogicall allegoricall which they do interpret after this sort that although the substance of bread wyne doe remayne and be receiued of the faythfull yet notwithstanding Christ chaunged the appellation thereof called the bread by the name of his flesh the wine by the name of his bloud non rei veritate sed significaÌ„te misterio i. not that it is so in verye deede but signified in a misterye So that wee shoulde consider not what they bee in theyr owne nature But what they import to vs and signify and should vnderstand the Sacrament not carnally but spiritually and shoulde attend not to the visible nature of the Sacraments neither haue respect onely to the outward bread cup thinkyng to see there with our eye no other thinges but onely bread and wyne but that liftyng vp our mynds we should looke vp to the bloud of Christ with our fayth Ann. 1454. â—priâ—l should touche hym with our mynde and receiue him with our inward man and that beyng lyke Egles in this lyfe we should flye vp into heauen in our heartes where that Lambe is resident at the right hand of hys father 〈◊〉 Sacraâ—â—â—â— to 〈…〉 what it 〈◊〉 â—ature 〈◊〉 whaâ— it 〈…〉 which taketh away the sinnes of the world by whose stripes we are made whole by whose passion we are filled at hys table and whose bloud we receiuyng out of his holy side do lyue for euer beyng made the ghests of Christ hauing him dwellyng in vs through the grace of his true nature and through the vertue and efficacie of his whole passion beyng no lesse assured and certified that we are fed spiritually vnto eternall lyfe by Christes flesh crucified and by hys bloudshed the true food of our myndes then that our bodies be fed with meat and drinke in this lyfe and hereof this sayd mysticall bread on the table of Christ the mysticall wyne beyng administred and receyued after the institution of Christ be to vs a memoriall a pledge a token a sacrament The Sacrament is a â—â—moriall 〈◊〉 pledge a 〈◊〉 a â—â—crament 〈…〉 â—hat is 〈◊〉 by 〈◊〉 the 〈…〉 and a seale And thereof is it that Christ sayth not thus This is my body eate ye but after he had biddeÌ„ them eate then he said This is my body which shal be geueÌ„ for you Which is to mean as though he should say In eating of this bread consider you that this bread is no common thyng but a mysticall matter neither do you attend that which is set before our bodily eyes but what feedeth you within Consider behold my body crucified for you that eate and digest in your myndes Chaw you vpon my passion be fed w t my death This is the true meat this is the drinke that moysteneth wherwith you beyng truly fed and inebriate shall liue for euer The bread and the wyne which be set before our eies are onely declarations of me What the 〈◊〉 â—ody of Christ doth â—o our sâ—â—les but I my selfe am the eternall food Wherfore whensoeuer at this my table you shall behold the sacraments haue not regard so much to them as consider ye what I promise to you by them which is myselfe to be meat for you of eternall lyfe The onely oblation of Christ wherewith he offered himselfe to God the father once to death vpon the aultar of the crosse for our redemption was of such efficacy y t there is no more need of any sacrifice for the redemption of the whole world The sacriâ—â—ce of Christes 〈…〉 all but all y e sacrifice of y e old law he tooke away performyng that in very deede which they did signify and promise Whosoeuer therfore shal fixe the hope of his saluatioÌ„ in any other sacrifice he falleth froÌ„ the grace of Christ and is contumelious against the bloud of Christ. For he was wounded for our transgressions and was broken for our iniquities 〈◊〉 53. All we lyke sheepe haue wandered astray Euery man hath turned after his owne way and the Lord hath layd all our iniquities vpon him For he hath entered once for all into the holy place by the bloud not of Goates or Calues but by his own bloud Heb. 9. finding eternall redemption And hath entered into heauen to appeare now in the sight of God for vs not to offer hymselfe oftentymes for so should he haue suffred many times but now hath he appeared once to put away sinne through hys owne oblation And as it is appoynted to all men once to dye so also Christ once was offered Heb. 17. Who offering vp one oblation for sinnes sitteth now for euer on the right hand of God For by one oblation hath he made perfect for euer those that be sanctified For where is remission of sinnes there is now no more oblation for sinne but this only sacrifice of Christ whosoeuer shall seeke any other sacrifice propitiatory for sinne 〈◊〉 sacrifice 〈◊〉 for 〈◊〉 but 〈◊〉 maketh the sacrifice of Christ of no validitie force or efficacie For if it be sufficient to remit sinnes what neede is there of any other For the necessitie of another argueth and declareth this to be insufficient Almighty God graunt that we may truly leaue to one sacrifice of Christ and that wee to hym agayne may repay our sacrifices of thanksgeuing of prayse of confessing hys name of true amendment of repentaunce of mercifulnes towards our neighbors and of all other good workes of charitie Christ 〈…〉 for 〈◊〉 we 〈…〉 For by such sacrifices we shall declare our selues neither ingratefull to God nor altogether vnworthy of this holy sacrifice of Christ. And thus you haue out of the testimonies of holy scripture and of the ancient Doctors of the Church the true and sincere vse of the Lordes holy supper and the fruite of the true sacrifice of Christ. Which whosoeuer thorough captious or wrested interpretations or by mens traditions shal go about otherwise then Christ ordeined them to alter or traÌ„substantiate he shall aunswere to Christ in the latter day when he shal vnderstand but then to late that he hath no participation with the body and bloud of Christ but that out of the supper of eternal lyfe he hath eaten and dronken eternall damnation to hymselfe West Because we will not consume and spend the tyme in waste this your writyng which you exhibite hereafter shall be read in hys place In the meane season let vs now fall to the Arguments Ched The Scriptures in many places doe affirme Argument that Christ gaue hys natural body Mat. 26. Mark 14. Luk. 22 Ergo Aunsâ—â—â—â— I doe conclude that the naturall body is in the Sacrament Cran. To your argument I aunswer If you vnderstand by the body natural organicum that is hauyng such proportion and members as he had liuyng here then I aunswer negatiuely Furthermore concernyng the Euangelists thus I say and graunt that Christ tooke bread and called
noâ— denyed whyche is grounded vpon the word of God and made more plaine by the commentaries of y e faithfull fathers They that thinke so of me the Lord knoweth how far they are deceiued And to make the same euident vnto you I will in fewe woords declare what true presence of Christes body in the sacrameÌ„t of the Lordes supper I hold and affirme with the worde of God and the auncient fathers I say and confesse with the Euangelist Luke The fayth confession of D. Ridley in affiâ—â—ming the true preseÌ„t in the Sacrament and wyth the Apostle Paule that the bread on the which thankes are geuen is the body of Christe in the remembraunce of hym and of his death to be set foorth perpetually of the faithfull vntill his comming I say and confesse the bread which we breake to be the Communion and partaking of Christes bodye wyth the auncient and the faithfull fathers I say and beleeue that there is not onely a signification of Christes body sette foorth by the sacrament The grace of 〈◊〉 and immortal geuen with the Sacrament to the â—â—ythfull Life eaten Aâ—â—gust The Lord 〈◊〉 grace Emisse Celestiall foode receaued 〈◊〉 The property naturall communion receâ—â—ued Hilar. The vertue oâ— Christes flesh Cyrill The misticall â—â—uent of Chriâ—â— Basill The 〈…〉 Ambros. The body by grace 〈…〉 but not that which 〈…〉 Hierom Grace 〈…〉 a sacrifice 〈◊〉 Chrisost. Grace 〈…〉 verâ—ty The power of Gods 〈…〉 Bertram but also that therewith is geuen to the godly and faithfull the grace of Christes body that is the foode of life immortalitye And this I holde wyth Cyprian I say also with S. Augustine that wee eate life and wee drinke life with Emisene that we feele the Lorde to be present in grace wyth Athanasius that wee receiue Celestiall foode which commeth from aboue the propertie of natural Communion wyth Hyllarius the nature of flesh and benediction whych geueth life in breade and wine wyth Cyrill and wyth the same Cyrill the vertue of the very flesh of Christ life and grace of his body the propertie of the onely begotten that is to say life as he himselfe in plaine words expoundeth it I confesse also with Basil that we receiue the mysticall Aduent and comming of Christ grace the vertue of hys very nature the sacrament of his very flesh with Ambrose the body by grace with Epiphanius spirituall flesh but not that which was crucified with Hierome Grace flowing into a sacrifice and the grace of the spirite with Chrysostome grace and inuisible veritie grace and societie of the members of Christes body with Augustine Finally with Bertram which was the last of all these I confesse that Christes body is in the Sacrament in thys respect namely as he writeth because there is in it the spirite of Christ that is the power of the worde of God which not onely feedeth the soule but also clenseth it Out of these I suppose it may clearely appeare vnto al meÌ„ how farre we are froÌ„ that opinion wherof some go about falsly to slaunder vs to the world saying we teach that the godly and faithfull shoulde receiue nothing else at the Lordes table but a figure of the body of Christ. ¶ The second proposition After the consecration there remayneth no substaunce of bread and wine neyther any other substaunce then the substaunce of God and man The Aunswere â—â—swere to 〈…〉 THE seconde conclusion is manifestly false directly against the word of God the nature of the Sacramente and the most euident testimonies of the godly Fathers and it is the rotten foundation of the other two conclusions propounded by you The â— proâ—â—sition of transubstantation deâ—ye both of the first and of the third I will not therefore now tary vpon any further explication of this aunswere being contented with that which is already added afore to the aunswer of the first proposition ¶ The first argument for the confirmation of this aunswere IT is very playne by the worde of God that Christ did geue bread vnto his Disciples and called it his body But the substance of bread is another maner of substaÌ„ce then is the substance of Christes body God and man Confirm thou 〈◊〉 his answere Therefore the conclusion is false The second part of mine argument is playne and the first 〈◊〉 proued thus ¶ The second argument Da That which Christ dyd take on the which he gaue thanâ—â—s and the which he brake he gaue to his Disciples and called it his body ri But he toke bread gaue thaÌ„ks on bread brake bread si Ergo the first part is true And it is confirmed with the authorities of the Fathers Irene Tertullian Origene Cyprian Epiphaâ—ius Hierome Augustine Theodoret Cirill Rabanus and Beâ—â— Whose places I will take vpon me to shew most manifest in this behalfe if I may be suffered to haue my bookes as my request is Bread is the body of Christ Ergo it is bread * The rule of Logicke is this A propositione de tertio adiacente ad cam 〈◊〉 est de secundo 〈◊〉 verbo 〈…〉 A tertio adiacente ad secundâ—m adiacens cum verbi substantiui pura copula ¶ The third Argument Ba As the bread of the Lordes table is Christes naturall body so is it his mysticall body ro But it is not Christes mysticall body by transubstantiation co Ergo it is not his naturall body by transubstantiatioÌ„ The second part of my argument is plaine and the first is proued thus As Christ who is the veritie spake of the bread This is my body which shall be betrayed for you speaking there of his naturall body euen so Paul moued with y e same spirit of truth The Maior 〈◊〉 said We though we be many yet are we all one bread and one body which be partakers of one bread â— Cor. 10. ¶ The fourth Argument We may no more beleeue bread to be transubstantiate into the body of Christ The argument holdeth a destructione 〈…〉 Math. 26. Marke 14. then the wine into his bloud But the wine is not transubstantiate into his bloud Ergo neyther is that bread therefore transubstantiate into his body ¶ The first part of this argument is manifest the second part is proued out of the authoritie of Gods word in Mathew Marke I will not drinke of the fruite of the vine c. Now the fruite of the vine was wine which Christ dranke and gaue to his disciplis to drinke With this sentence agreeth playnely the place of Chrysostome on the xx Chapter of Mathew ChrisostoÌ„e Cyprian As Ciprian doth also affirming that there is no bloud if wine be not in the cup. 〈◊〉 argument holâ—eth after 〈◊〉 same 〈◊〉 as 〈…〉 ¶ The fift Argument Ba The words of Christ spoken vpon the cup and vpon the bread haue like effect and working ro But the wordes spoken vpon the cup haue not vertue to transubstantiate co Ergo it followeth that
had bene my liuing I aunswered I was a Minister serued a Cure and taught a schole Then sayd my Lord to his Counsell this is a wonderfull thing Afore he sayd he was no Priest and now he confesseth himselfe to be one I aunswered by the lawes now vsed in this Realme as farre as I do know I am none Then they asked me who gaue me orders or whether I had taken any at all I aunswered I receiued orders of the Bishops of London and Lincolne Then sayd they one to an other those be of these new heretickes and asked me what acquayntaunce I had with them I aunswered I neuer sawe them but at the tyme when I receiued orders They asked me how long I had bene Curate whether I had ministred with a good conscience I aunswered I had bene Curate but one yere and had ministred with a good conscience I thanked God and if the Lawes of the Realme would haue suffered me I would haue ministred still This blasphemous mouth of the paâ—son of Grapnal if the lawes at any time hereafter woulde suffer me to minister after that sort I would minister agayne Whereat they murmured and the person of Grapnall sayd this last Communion was the most deuilishe thing that euer was deuised Then they asked me what my beliefe was I answered I beleued in God the Father the Sonne the holy Ghost according as the Scriptures of the olde and new testament do teach and according as the 4. Symboles or Creedes that is to wit the Creed commonly called Apostolorum the Creed of Nice Councell of Athanasius and of Austen and Ambrose do teach And after a few wordes the parson of Grapnall sayd but what is thy beliefe in the Sacrament of the aultar I aunswered I beleued that whosoeuer according to Christes institution G. Marshes beliefe in the Sacrament dyd receyue the holye Sacrament of Christes body and bloud did eate and drinke Christes body and bloud with all the benefites of his death and resurrection to their eternall saluation for Christ sayd I is euer present with his sacrament Then asked they me whether the bread and wyne by the vertue of the wordes pronounced of the Priest were chaunged into the flesh and bloud of Christ and that the sacrament whether it were receiued or reserued was the very body of Christ Wherunto I made aunswere G. Marsh loth to aunswere to the question of transubstantiation I knew no further then I had shewed already For my knowledge is vnperfecte sayd I desiring theÌ„ not to aske me such hard vnprofitable questions whereby to bring my body into dauÌ„ger of death to sucke my bloud Whereat they were not a little offended saying they were no bloud succours and inteÌ„ded nothing to me but to make me a good Christian man So after many other questions whiche I auoyded as well as I could remembring the saying of Paule Foolishe and vnlearned questions auoide knowing they do but ingender strife my Lord commaunded me to come to the boord and gaue me pen and incke in my hand and commaunded me to write mine aunsweres to the questions of the Sacrament aboue named I wrote as I had answered before G. Marsh commaunded by the Earle of Darby to write his answeres Wherat he being much offended coÌ„maunded me to write a more direct answere saying I should not chuse but do it Then I tooke the pen and wrote that further I knew not Whereat hee being sore greeued after many threatnings sayd I should be put to shamefull death like a traitor with such other like words and sometimes geuing me â—ayre wordes if I would turne and be conformable as other were how glad he would be In conclusion after much adoe he commaunded me to Ward in a cold windy stone house The Earle of Darby coÌ„maundeth G. Marsh into prison where was little roome where I lay two nightes without any bed sauing a fewe great canuasse tentclothes and that done I had a payre of sheetes but no wollen clothes so coÌ„tinued till Palm-sonday occupying my selfe aswel as I could in meditatioÌ„ prayer study for no man could be suffered to come to me but my keeper twise a day when he brought me meat and drinke ¶ An other examination of G. Marsh before the Earle of Darby ON Palme sonday at after dinner I was sent for to my Lord and his counsell sauing Syr William Nores Syr Pierce Alee were not then present in place amongest whoÌ„ was Syr Iohn Beram the Uicar of Prescot So they examined me yet once agayne of the sacrameÌ„t Marsh agayne examined about the Sacrament And after I had communed aparte with the Uicare of Prescot a good space coÌ„cerning that matter he returned to my Lorde and his Counsell with me saying that aunswere which I had made before and then did make as it is aboue writteÌ„ was sufficient for a beginner and as one which did not professe a perfect knowledge in that matter vntil such time as I had learned further Marsh yet keepeth himselfe close in the Sacrament Wherewith the Earle was very well pleased saying hee doubted not but by the meanes help of the vicar of Prescot I would be conformable in other thinges So after many fayre wordes he commaunded I should haue a bed with fire and libertye to goe amongest his seruantes so that I would do no harme with my communication amongest them And so after much other communication I departed much more troubled in my spirit then afore because I had not with more boldnes confessed Christ but in such sort Marsh troubled in his conscieÌ„ce for being no more bolde touching the Sacrament as mine aduersaries therby thought they should preuayle agaynst me wherat I was much greued For hytherto I went about as much as in me lay to rid my self out of their handes if by any meanes without open denying of Christ and his word that could be done This considered I cried more earnestly vnto God by prayer desiring him to strengthen me with his holy spirit Marsh prayetheth for more boldenes with boldnes to confesse him and to deliuer me from their intising words and that I were not spoyled through their Philosophy deceitfull vanity after the traditions of men and ordinaunces of the world and not after Christ. And so after a day or two I was sent for to y e Uicar of Prescot and the Parson of Grapnall where our most coÌ„munication was concerning the masse and he asked what offended me in the Masse I aunswered the whole Masse did offend me Marsh agayne examined before the Bishops Chaplens Talke about the Masse Allegations against the Masse first because it was in a straunge language wherby the people were not edified coÌ„trary to S. Paules doctrine 1. Cor. 14. and because of the manifold and intolerable abuses errors coÌ„teined therin contrary to Christs Priesthood and sacrifice Then they asked me in what place therof and I
for the washing away of sinnes as it was euen the same day that it flowed out of the blessed side of our sauiour and finally that the whole substance of our sacrifice which is frequented of the Church in the Lords Supper The wholâ— substance 〈◊〉 our sacrificâ— wherein it consisteth consisteth in praiers praise and geuing of thankes and in remembring and shewing foorth of that sacrifice once offered vpon the altar of the crosse that the same might continually be had in reuerence by mystery which once onely and no more was offered for the price of our redemption These are the things right worshipfull M. Prolocutor and ye the rest of the Commissioners which I could presently prepare to the aunswering of your three foresayde propositions being destitute of all helpe in this shortnes of time sodaine warning and want of bookes B. Ridley appealeth from the vniust sentence of his aduersaries to some other superiour competent iudge Wherefore I appeale to my first protestation most humbly desiring the helpe of the same as much as may be to be graunted vnto me And because ye haue lately giuen most vniust and cruell sentence against me I do heere appeale so farfoorth as I may to a more indifferent iust censure iudgemeÌ„t of some other superiour competent lawful iudge that according to the approued state of the church of England Howbeit I confesse that I am ignoraunt what that is at this present through the trouble and alteration of the state of the Realme â— Ridley 〈…〉 of 〈…〉 â—ppealeth 〈◊〉 â—ighty 〈◊〉 But if this appeale may not be graunted to me vpon earth then do I flye euen as to my onely refuge and alone hauen of health to the sentence of the eternall iudge that is of y e almighty God to whose most merciful iustice towardes his most iust mercifulnes I doe wholly commit my selfe and all my cause nothing at all despayring of the defence of mine Aduocate and alone Sauiour Iesus Christ to whome with the euerlasting Father and the holy Spirit the sanctifier of vs all be now and for euer all honour and glory Amen Albeit this learned Byshop was not suffered to reade all that is aboue prefixed before the Disputations yet because he had it then ready and offered it vp to the Prolocutour after the Disputations sentence pronounced I thought heere the place not vnmeete to annexe the same together with the rest Now let vs heare the Arguments and aunsweres betweene Doctour Smith and him ¶ D. Smith beginneth to oppose SMith You haue occasioned me to go otherwise to worke with you then I had thought to haue done Me seemed you did in your supposition abuse the testimonies of scripture concerning the Ascension of Christ to take away hys presence in the Sacrament as though this were a strong Argument to inforce your matter withall Smithes argument Christ did ascend vnto heauen Ergo he is not in the Sacrament Now therefore I will go about to disproue this reason of yours Christes Ascension is no let to his reall presence in the Sacrament Ergo you are deceiued whereas you do grounde youre selfe vpon those places Rid. You import as though I had made a strong Argument by Christes going vp into heauen But howsoeuer mine Argument is made Aunswere you collect it not rightly For it doth not only stay vpon his Ascension but both vpon hys Ascension and his * The veritie of M. Ridleyes answere touching the reall being of Christ in earth to be restrained by his ascending and abiding in heauen standeth vpon a necessitie whiche we call Necessitas consequentiae by thys demonstration Da Euery naturall body must necessarily be contayned in his pecular and certaine place â—iâ— Christes body is a naturall body â— Ergo Christes body not to be in one certaine place at once contayned it is impossible according to the rule Omne propositiones de impossibili de necesâ—e equipollent dicto dissimiliter se habenti modoÌ„ similiter abiding there also Smith Christes going vp to heauen and his abiding there hinder not his reall presence in the Sacrament Ergo you are deceiued Rid. Of Christes reall presence there may be a double vnderstanding if you take the reall presence of Christ according to the reall and corporal substance which he tooke of the virgine that presence being in heauen caÌ„ not be on the earth also But if you meane a reall presence secuÌ„dum rem aliquam quae ad corpus Christi pertinet i. according to some thing that appertaineth to Christes body certes the Ascension and abiding in heauen are no let at all to that presence Wherefore Christes body after that sort is heere present to vs in the Lords supper by grace I say as Epiphanius speaketh it West I will cut off from hencefoorth all equiuocation and doubt For whensoeuer we speake of Christes body wee meane that which he tooke of the Uirgin Rid. Christes Ascension and abiding in heauen can not stand with this presence Smith Christ appeared corporally and really on the earth for all his Ascension and continuall abode in heauen vnto the day of Dome Argument Ergo his Ascension and abiding in heauen is no let to his reall presence in the Sacrament Rid. Aunswere Maister Doctour this Argument is nothing worth I do not so straightly tye Christ vp in heauen that he may not come into the earth at his pleasure For when he will he may come downe from heauen and be on the earth as it liketh himselfe Howbeit I do affirme that it is not possible for him to be both in heauen and earth at one tyme. Smith Marke I pray you my Maisters diligently that be here what he aunswereth First he saith that the sitting of Christ at the right hande of his father is a let to the reall presence of his body in the Sacrament and then afterward he flyeth from it agayne Rid. I woulde not haue you thinke that I do imagine or dreame vpon any such maner of sitting as these men heere sit in the Schoole Smith Ergo it is lawfull for Christ then to be heere present on the earth when he will himselfe Rid. Yea when he will it is lawfull indeede Smith Ergo his ascending into heauen doth not restrayne his reall presence in the Sacrament Rid. I do not gaynesay but that it is lawfull sor hym to appeare on the earth when he wil but proue you y t he wil. Christes aboâ—e in heauen is no let for him to appeare on earth when he will but whether he wil that must be proued Againe it is one thing to appeare on earth an other still in the Sacrament and to be present the same time with his body in heauen wheÌ„ he is bodely present in earth Smith Then your aunswere dependeth vppon the will of Christ I perceiue Therfore I will ioyne agayn with you in this short argument Christ albeit hee doth alway abide in heauen