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A08562 A manuell or briefe volume of controuersies of religion betweene the Protestants and the Papists wherein the arguments of both sides are briefely set downe, and the aduersaries sophismes are plainely refuted. Written in Latine in a briefe and perspicuous method by Lucas Osiander, and now Englished with some additions and corrections.; Enchiridion controversiarum. English Osiander, Lucas, 1571-1638. 1606 (1606) STC 18880; ESTC S101908 177,466 558

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agree in euery particular point 18. The body and bloud of Christ bee propitiatorie for our sinnes In the holy Supper there is the body and bloud of Christ therefore the Masse is propitiatorie for our sinnes Ans 1. The body and bloud of Christ is not in the sacrament saue only sacramentally and spiritually and therfore cannot be there offered 2. By the same reason it would followe that in euery place where Christ was on earth there should be a propitiatorie sacrifice The vertue and efficacie of Christs sacrifice doth at all times flow from the flesh of Christ but it was made a propitiatorie sacrifice but once and that vpon the Crosse it is offered and given in the Supper and receaved of the beleevers by faith 3. There is a changing of the predication for in the minor it is said The body and bloud are in the Sacrament in the conclusion therefore the Masse is propitiatorie Were it granted that their Masse were nothing but the Sacrament duly administred that the body of Christ were carnally there yet there would no more follow but this that in the Masse there is that which is propitiatorie for sinnes And if it be propitiatorie in bare being why needeth it to be sacrificed that it may be propitiatorie 19. The Fathers of the Church called the Eucharist by the name of a sacrifice therefore the Masse is a sacrifice Answer 1. It is a fallacie heaping vp moe questions for one for it is one question whether the Fathers called the Supper a sacrifice which is not yet sufficient for the purpose and another in what sence they called it a sacrifice whether as the Papists meane it or otherwise 2 It is a fallacie from a thing spoken but in some respect to the same taken absolutely for the Fathers called it a sacrifice in some respect onely as namely 1. because all sacred rites may be called by the common word of the olde Testament sacrificia sacrifices quasi a faciendo sacra from doing holy sacred actions 2. Because in the Supper there is a commemoration of that one onely and true sacrifice of Christ they gaue that name to the action from the more chiefe and principall respect 3 Because of praiers which were poured out in the celebration of the Supper which are called sacrifices as was before declared 4 Because of praise thanksgiving which were vsed in the celebration of the Supper and are called sacrifices in the Epistle to the Hebrewes 5. Because of their offering of first fruites and food which they called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 loue-feasts 6 Because the spirituall sacrifices faith hope charitie c are exercised stirred vp by the vle of the Supper 3 The Papists should proue that the ancient Fathers ever taught that the Masse is a propitiatorie sacrifice for the sinnes of the living and the dead but this they will never doe 20. The Church hath alwaies acknowledged the Masse for a sacrifice therefore it is a noveltie to denie the Masse to be a sacrifice Answer The Antecedent is prooved false 1 because there is no Masse in the newe Testament 2 Neither can it be shewed in the Primitiue Church as was before alleadged out of the booke of Valentinus Vannius who hath plainely proved that the Popish sacrifice of the Masse was not in the Church of Christ for the space of 600 yeares or thereabout 3 Because the chiefe thinges in the Masse are newe of late invention and were heaped together at sundry times one after another some by one Pope and some by another And such novelties are iustly reiected by vs. 21. The Masse is an application whereby that which Christ merited for vs is applied to everie man in particular Answere 1 It cannot bee said to bee any application vnlesse it bee thereunto so ordained by God Now wee haue a two-fold application onely of the merites of Christ recorded in Scripture Whereof the one is by the word and faith without any externall element and the other by the elements and rites in the Sacraments ordained thereunto But the Masse is a thing altogether different from the Lords Supper therefore it maketh nothing for the applying of Christs merite Moreover the Masse hath no testimonie from the Scripture of either of these manners of applying Neither therefore doth it applie the merite of Christ 2 And because the Masse hath no cōmandement of God it may not be lawfull for men to tye the grace of God to mans inventions 22. In the Masse there is remembrance of the passion and death of Christ therefore the Masse is to be reverenced Ans 1. The remembrance of the passion death of Christ ought to bee done by the celebration of the Lords Supper which Christ ordained and instituted but not by the theatricall celebration of the Masse which was not instituted by Christ 2 The Papists striue not onely for the remembrance of the Lords death in the Supper but for a propitiatorie sacrifice as the Canon of the counsell of Trent hath it There is therefore more in the consequent than in the Antecedent 23. There are many good things contained in the Masse therefore c. Ans And there be very many idolatrous things contained in the Masse And Magick is therby made good because Magitians vse good and holy wordes for good mingled with evill doth not make that which is evill to become good but that which was good of it selfe is corrupted by the evill as when a man mingleth poison with good wine 24 The Masse is a representation of the death and passion of Christ Now seeing a representation doth worke more strongly than a bare commemoration the Masse cannot displease God Answere 1. Because a representation seemeth stronger and more forcible to men it doth not therfore seeme stronger to God also for my thoughts are not as your thoughts Isai 55 8. 2 Seeing that representation is a kinde of commemoration they which contend for a representation alone are stricken by the Pope with a curse in the Canon before cited 3 Neither doth the first Supper of Christ beare a representation in which Supper our Aduersaries themselues doe not admit of a representation 25. Luke maketh mention of the * Liturgie of the Apostles Act. 13 2. therefore the Apostles celebrated Masse Ans 1. The word Liturgie is vnderstoode of any service of God and therefore their owne vulgar Authenticall translation rendreth it ministrantibus illis and our English 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 accordingly as they ministred to the Lord. 2 Seeing the most of the thinges in the Popish Masse are new how I pray you doth the Masse sute with this allegation of the Apostles who were dead sundrie hundreds of yeares before the Popish Masse was borne 26. We reade of many miracles that were done at the Masse of the Papists therefore it is not to be reiected Answer 1. The most of those miracles are such as If those mir●●les bee t●ue how ch●nceth it tha● now the●e bee no