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A42386 A brief examination of the present Roman Catholick faith contained in Pope Pius his new creed, by the Scriptures, antient fathers and their own modern writers, in answer to a letter desiring satisfaction concerning the visibility of the protestant church and religion in all ages, especially before Luther's time. Gardiner, Samuel, 1619 or 20-1686. 1689 (1689) Wing G244; ESTC R29489 119,057 129

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that_o saint_n hierom_n in_o his_o book_n against_o vigilantius_n who_o condemn_v invocation_n of_o saint_n censure_v he_o not_o as_o a_o heretic_n for_o so_o do_v if_o it_o have_v be_v then_o a_o point_n of_o faith_n no_o doubt_n st._n hierom_n will_v not_o have_v spare_v he_o yea_o in_o his_o epistle_n to_o riparius_n he_o say_v of_o angel_n and_o dead_a saint_n or_o martyr_n nec_fw-la colimus_fw-la nec_fw-la adoramus_fw-la we_o neither_o adore_v they_o with_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d nor_o worship_v they_o with_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d a_o inferior_a religious_a worship_n although_o as_o we_o protestant_n do_v honoramus_fw-la we_o honour_v they_o i_o will_v end_v with_o saint_n austin_n invocantur_fw-la nominantur_fw-la non_fw-la invocantur_fw-la in_o his_o 22._o book_n de_fw-fr civitate_fw-la dei_fw-la cap._n 10._o he_o say_v the_o saint_n be_v at_o the_o communion_n