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A12552 The character of the beast, or, The false constitution of the church discovered in certayne passages betwixt Mr. R. Clifton & Iohn Smyth, concerning true Christian baptisme of new creatures, or new borne babes in Christ, &nd false baptisme of infants borne after the flesh : referred to two propositions, 1. That infants are not to bee baptized, 2. That antichristians converted are to bee admitted into the true church by baptisme. Smyth, John, d. 1612. 1609 (1609) STC 22875; ESTC S991 85,221 80

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&_o exception_n follow_v wherein_o you_o do_v affirm_v that_o there_o be_v both_o precept_n &_o example_n for_o baptise_v infant_n the_o commandment_n be_v mat_n 18.19_o the_o example_n be_v of_o the_o infant_n of_o lydra_n &_o the_o keeper_n of_o the_o prison_n act._n 16.15.33_o to_o these_o i_o have_v already_o give_v answer_n in_o the_o 6._o &_o 7._o reason_n go_v before_o &_o therefore_o hold_v it_o needle_n to_o repeat_v it_o here_o again_o only_o one_o thing_n be_v here_o to_o be_v answer_v that_o you_o object_n viz_n that_o the_o law_n once_o give_v of_o seal_v the_o infant_n aswell_o as_o parent_n must_v be_v retain_v except_o a_o repeal_n can_v be_v show_v i_o answer_v beside_o that_o baptism_n be_v not_o the_o seal_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n but_o the_o spirit_n &_o that_o circumcision_n be_v not_o a_o seal_n of_o the_o everlasting_a covenant_n make_v with_o abraham_n in_o respect_n of_o christ_n but_o of_o the_o old_a testament_n that_o when_o prince_n &_o common_a 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