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A38109	The first and second part of Gangræna, or, A catalogue and discovery of many of the errors, heresies, blasphemies and pernicious practices of the sectaries of this time, vented and acted in England in these four last years also a particular narration of divers stories, remarkable passages, letters : an extract of many letters, all concerning the present sects : together with some observations upon and corollaries from all the fore-named premisses / by Thomas Edwards ...; Gangraena. Part 1-2	Edwards, Thomas, 1599-1647.	1646 (1646)	Wing E227; ESTC R9322	294,645	284

quis tum beatior Luthero qui tanto sui saculi testimonio commendatur quod veritatis causam non segniter nec fraudulenter sed vehementer satis vel petiùs nimio egerit Tum illud Ieremae soeliciter evaserim Maledictus qui facit opus Dei negligenter So Luther and so may you in my judgment As for Cretensis so one of your adversaries stileth his Book I finde him still a confident man his Challenge of all the Presbyterians one after another assembled or not assembled in England Scotland France and Ireland in that question of the imputation of faith in a proper sense c. sheweth so much and also that that he may do it as well as you did Antapol p. 117. To whom you may say from me He cannot so well do it as you because that as yet we see none hath accepted your challenge whereas the strength of him is tried in what he did against M. Walker and his other two Treatises of that subject and is found weaknesse so that untill he vindicate himselfe we have but the words militis gloriosi the vent of spleen against Presbyterians and the Assembly say I could tell him Presbyterians and Independents assembled have weighed that controversie and found his opposition therein too too light Tell him that though the servant is not greater then his Master nor the authority of the Clark equall to that of the Iustice of Peace and that when M. Gataker speaketh M. Robrough may hold his peace as he speaketh pag. 26. Cret M. Robrough may say so much unto him in behalfe of some of those he thus challengeth and tell him that he do no more with challenges trouble those Masters being in serious employments It sufficeth a servant hath routed his forces and is in readinesse with Gods helpe if M. Iohn Goodwin can but recruit to meet him in that controversie in whatsoever field Blessed be God he is much more inabled and imboldened to that by his attendance so farre is he from being ashamed of that which he objecteth as a jeer he is strong at that as in his Recipe to M. Walker and that whole Book the blood that runneth in that vein as I have heard cost him nought he received it by tradition he is not as yet redeemed from it will him as a grave and learned Divine to answer M. Robroughs Animadversions and after that propose his vaine-glorious challenge unto Presbyterians they and Independents will surely answer him if between him and me there be indeed found on my part impar congressus That charge of yours Gang. p. 70. that Faith in a proper sense is imputed to justification and not Christs righteousnesse is owned I see still by him Onely he saith that you falsly and forgingly represent the opinion because you father on it that mungrell expression as he calleth it 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 credere an expression ad invidiam comparata It my be said its usually so expressed by such as handle that controversie Mr. Wootton abhorred it not Fidem autem cùm dicimus ipsum credere 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 significamus De Reconcil par 2. l. 1. c. 15. p. 175. and againe p. 176. for what hee mentioneth else to that further he may do well to take notice that he is examined as in all that hee hath written The other Charge pag. 23. about quoting Bucer and Calvin against their judgement in my opinion it is very just Let Mr. Walkers Booke and mine be but consulted it is made evident in theirs and others testimonies quoted by him when as Bucer saith Faith is imputed to righteousnesse and so Calvin they take it not in a proper sense but figurative or relative to the object which Sibrandus against Bertius sheweth to bee the judgement of all Protestant Divines and challengeth him to shew one man or one place to the contrarie For Bucer Master Wotton sheweth his opinion in these words Quia hac fide apprehendimus justitiam perfectam Christi ideo Apostolus dixit credenti in cum qui justificat impium fidem ejus reputari in justitiam fidem scil apprehendentem justitiam Christi id est ipsam Christi justitiam Wo●t de Reconcil part 2. lib. 1. cap. 14. pag. 170. and therefore saith of Bucer Quem ego de imputatione opinionis authorem fuisse mihi persuadeo He might have read it cited in mine Animadvers part 1. pag. 150. And as for M. Calvin the verie places whence he quoteh him expresse so much Let him peruse what is extracted from him in mine Animadversions pag. 134 135 136 p. 162 163. As for that opinion of Calvins That Iustification consisteth in remission of sins tell him hee needed not to call in witnesses it is confest The question is about the word onely neither is that word denyed to bee in Calvin but the qustion is whether onely excludeth in his sense imputation of Christs righteousnesse the tenet of Protestants or that of inherent righteousnesse the Doctrine of Papists I deny the former and assert onely the later against the Papists and I appeale to his witnesses let them give their verdict Yet tell him that in mine Animadversions in answer to this very head he may read it determined by many witnesses against him by Bellarmine his adversarie an accuser of Calvin as he is for this by his own witnesse Pareus by D. Downham D. Davenant and Polanus though he will not see it part 1. pag. 76 77 78 79. Yes when as in his book he mentioneth these two witnesses as he here doth he may finde them answered out of the same Authours where Mr. Gatakers judgement may bee also seene of that thing Whether Justification consists in remission of sinnes Surely had hee thought of these Answers given him against his opinions for mine that they are to bee seene in the world hee would never have made so loud a challenge neither yet have spent time in repetition of these testimonies for the determining of which between us I appeal to all the world and am ready when-ever he pleaseth to contend for this with him or any part of the Controversie in writing or vivâ voce Sir I thought good to write so much to you in defence of Truth and somwhat in reference to my despised selfe It is now yours do with it as your selfe shall please The Lord make us valiant for truth for this I know I have abettors enough such as himselfe doth otherwise highly honour But service calleth for mine hand elswhere which I must obey and therefore with prayer to God for his blessing on you and all your labours in his cause he taketh leave of you for this time who is Your loving friend and Brother in every cause of Christ HENRY ROBROUGH April 23. 1646. A copie of a Letter lately written to me from a godly Minister in the West of England WOrthy Sir whom though unknown to me by sight I love and honour for your love to truth and for your zeale

a great Sectarie upon the fifth or sixth of May last speaking against the Presbyterian Ministers and calling them Priests spake these words That we hope to have or shall have shortly the Sequestrations of the Presbyterians as well as formerly of Malignants unto whom one of the company replyed that I suppose you will get a good office or place then when the Pr●●●●terians estates shall come to be sequestred Another Sectarie a Bodies-seller in London whose name I conceale upon the entreatie of him who related it speaking of the Ministers of Sion Colledge said these words Many have gone to Tyburn who have lesse deserved hanging than those of Sion Colledge and hee further spoke these words that the Ministers were the cause of all our troubles stirs This relation was given me under the hand of one who was an ear-witnesse and delivered to me in the presence of two sufficient persons A third man who is for the Independents and that way came to a person of qualitie in the Citie of London and taken notice of for a man of great estate and wished him out of his respect to him to take heed how he ingaged or shewed himselfe for the Presbyterians and against the Independents for there was no way for him to keep his estate or to be secure unlesse he were of that side with other words to that purpose Here followes a Copie of some Letters with a Narration of some more remarkable Passages concerning the Sectaries A Copie of A Letter written to me from a godly and learned Minister living at Yarmouth VVorthy Sir BY your Letter coming to my hand I take notice of an Information handed to you wherein I wish there were not so much truth For your better security I have procured the Examinations out of the Office and have transcribed one of them which here I send you inclosed At our late Sessions this cause was heard Our Recorder professed that had he had power hee had a great minde to hang the man for his Blasphemies but in conclusion hee was bound over to the next Sessions Touching the person of this blasphemous wretch one Iohn Boggis hee was an Apprentice to an Apothecary in London and came downe hither with your good friend Captaine Hobson as his Chyrurgion Soone after his coming into these parts hee turned Preacher and so in a little time seducing and being seduced hee came from Antinomianisme and Anabaptisme to this desperate height of Atheisme Your great Rabbi Oats told mee before his face that M. Boggis might be his Master notwithstanding his youth and so highly extolled him as if hee had beene Adam Hamagnalah One passage more I shall acquaint you with About a yeer since or somewhat more this Boggis with Oats then of Norwich and one Lockier a Ring-leader of the Anabaptists in this town came to my house desiring some discourse with me for their pretended satisfaction Providence so ordered it that M. W. my fellow Minister and one other were with me at the present Thus three to three we fell into debate amongst other matters about the power of the Magistrate in inflicting capital punishments and taking away of life Hereupon Oats to whom the rest agreed peremptorily affirmed and stood to maintaine That there was no such power in any Christian Magistrate over anie Member of a Church unlesse first he was cast out of the Church and so delivered to the Secular power no whatever his offence was though Murther or Treason His Argument was That all Church-Members were the Temple of God and who so destroyeth the Temple of God him shall God destroy Being pressed with the Authority of that Text He that sheddeth mans blood by man shall his blood be shed hee and the rest cryed out what had they to do with Moses They were Christs Disciples not Moses Disciples Being minded of the antiquity of this Law before Moses his time they replyed it was all one being part of the Old Testament Withall Oats added that that Law was fulfilled demanding of him how he answered in and by Christ In as much said hee as Christ shed his blood my blood is shed already for saith he Christs blood is my blood and my blood is Christs blood At the same time Boggis being pressed by my selfe in some particulars still his reply was I have the Spirit My selfe impatient of his arrogant boasting told him That certainly if he had that Spirit he pretended to hee would not so boast of it Whereunto clapping his hand upon his brest he replyed I thank God I have enough of the Spirit Hereupon I having enough of him told him that the doores were open for him and so parted with him The Lord direct and assist you in all your undertakings and make your endeavours successefull With my prayers and hearty salutations I rest Your assured Friend and Brother in the Lord. Yarmouth May 11. A copie of the Deposition made against one John Boggis for horrid and unheard of Blasphemy Great Yarmouth Ian. 24. 1645. THis Informer saith upon his oath that some few dayes since one Iohn Boggis came to the house of this Informers Master about dinner time and being requested to stay at dinner there he sate down at the Table and being also requested by his said Masters wife to give thanks hee asked to whom hee should give thanks whether to the Butcher or to the Bull or to the Cow there being then a Shoulder of rosted Veale upon the Table And the said Informers Masters wife saying That thanks should bee given to God the said Boggis replyed and said Where is your God in Heaven or in Earth aloft or below or doth hee sit in the clouds or where doth hee sit with his And further this Informer saith That at another time the said Informers Masters wife having speech with the said Boggis about the Church and concerning the Bible the said Boggis wished he had not knowne so much of the Bible which hee said was but only paper The former part of this Information to And further c. is also attested upon Oath in the same words by the said Informers Master wife A true Copy of a Letter sent from Dover to a worthy Member of the Reverend Assembly and subscribed by five hands of persons of worth Ministers and others Worthy Sir OVr true respects of you prefixed We entreat your favour to acquaint us what you think will be the result at last about the Independents if they must be tolerated it is then in vaine for us to strive against it by any humane helps and must expect to live in all confusion and disorder except it be in our Families and there we shall hardly avoid it for there are some that creep into Houses We desire you to take notice that for three yeeres last past there hath been some differences about that way in Dover but of late they are faln into a Congregationall-Church have made Members and ordained a Pastour one Mr. Davis of London

against the spreading infectious Errours of these times wherein we once hoped for better things I wrote to Master F. of some discoveries that were made to me by some reclaimed from Anabaptisme concerning the workings of Satan to and in that way being much affected with the relations they first gave me by word of mouth I desired them to commit their experiences to paper while the remembrance of them was fresh with them that they might be able hereafter as well as at present to tell what the Lord had done for their soules in breaking such a dangerous snare as Satan with so much art and subtilty had laid for them This upon perswasion they did and at last gave me in about two sheets of paper close written wherein they discover not only how the snare was laid for them and how they were first caught and intangled with a liking of the novelty of Anabaptisme but being caught how they were carried on to it with the strongest violence and impulse of spirit that is imaginable they also discover the sad effects and influence which that way had upon their spirits while they lay but under a liking and good opinion of it and how it pleased the Lord to rescue and bring them off before they were actually ingaged and duckt into that seduced society Sir all these things were so fully and largely expressed in the manuscrip● I had from them that others as well as my selfe held them very fit to be published for the publike good and supposing they should be I was preparing some considerations upon the passages to come forth with them Since their coming of the Anabaptists they have found their spirits in a much better frame then before and out of pitie to others ingaged in that way have endeavoured to reclaime them And now Sir for my own part I must needs say it is much that I have suffered from Opinionists of all sorts in these times and meerly because I could not be false to my Covenant nor I trust never shall by a sinfull silence when heresie and schisme do lift up themselves against truth and unity I praise the Lord this happinesse I have though the unkind dealing of these men hath somtimes occasioned much griefe of heart and weaknesse of body to me yet they have not prevailed in the least wise to weaken my resolutions in contending for the truth yea the more the truth is opposed the more earnestly I hope I shall contend for it though it be to the utter exhausting of that small strength of body which I have I cannot sacrifice my selfe in a better way I know it is not necessary that I should live but necessary it is that truth should live and be maintained to the utmost of our power Me thought it was somwhat harsh to me at first till God accustomed me to the yoke to suffer frowns reproaches imprecations and all manner of hard speeches for the discharging of my conscience and that from those whose professed principle it is that all should have the liberty of their consciences It seems they would take liberty but will not give it If my conscience bids me to oppose some of their tenets and practices and I can have no peace without so doing how can they in reason deny me this liberty by their own principle ☜ Surely it would be a sad day to all Orthodox Christians if they should be brought to stand to the mercy the Sectaries liberty Some of them have partly well used their liberty against me in speaking writing printing against me in the most scurrilous rancorous injurious manner that could be and onely for preaching that which if I had not my conscience I feare would have preached against me while I had lived for holding the truth in unrighteousnesse Sir I will not hold you with particulars this place hath been a troublesome place to me for which I know whom I have to thank I wish it may be quieter to the next Minister that succeeds me for God is pleased by a cleare providence to open me a way to some other place Sir being lately at Dorchester the Town I heard was somewhat disturbed the week before by a wandring Sectary who had gathered a company about him and preached in the Shire Hall as I think they call it chusing that of the Apostle for his Text But we have the mind 〈◊〉 Christ. Afterwards through too much pride and too little wit the poor fellow was so ill advised as to challenge M. Ben to a publike dispute imp●●r congressus Achihi offering to make good the lawfulnesse of private mens preaching which challenge was accepted but how the Opinionist was foyled by that worthy Minister fitter to grapple with that Punies Instructors was easily perceived by all understanding hearers The godly people of those parts have been so well catechized and grounded heretofore that the Opinionists complain they can make no work with them Certainly the good old English Puritan which Mr. Geere doth so well characterize is the Novellists greatest enemy or rather the Novellist his ☞ Alas how sad is the destiny of Orthodox Christians that no times will favour them We have not yet lost the sense of what we suffered heretofore by those wicked Prelats whom God hath therefore cast out as an abominable Branch and surely if all the Orthodox in the Land should bring in their severall complaints of what they have suffered since by turbulent Opinionists it would fill the world with wonder and the Reformed Churches abroad who cannot but sympathize with us with much heavinesse of spirit in our behalfe Heretofore it was counted a crime to preach against profanenesse as sporting on the Lords day and the like and now as great a crime to preach against Heresies Only let me acquaint you with one thing I have observed This veine of persecution for the most parts runs along in the same persons they who most countenanced profanenesse and superstition heretofore against Orthodox Ministers are the same men who under a forme of godlinesse without the power do now countenance Heresie and Schisme against it but Sir let nothing discourage It it given to us not only to beleeve but to suffer but hee that shall come will come and will not tarrie and in the mean while it is enough for us that Christ reigns May 11. 1646. THere is a young man who lives in London and not far off the Exchange who went not long since to Lams meeting-place to see and hear what they did there and when he was come found many of them reasoning and conferring about strange opinions and among the rest there was one Sectarie who maintained and affirmed ☞ That he was Jesus Christ. At which this young man was so offended and troubled in his spirit that hee upon the place and to his face spake much against him for his blasphemy This fellow still maintained it stiffely and told this young man hee would powre out his judgements on him and damne him for