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A57585 The sixth part of The Christian-Quaker distinguished from the apostate & innovator being a just defence against the reproach of scandalous tongues and pens : and a proper looking-glass for a meeting in London, termed the second-days meeting, who are reputed the approvers of three books, or papers against a treatise entituled, The Christian-quaker, &c. in five parts given forth by W.R. on behalf of himself and other friends in truth concerned / by W.R.; Christian-Quaker distinguished from the apostate & innovator. Part 6 Rogers, William, d. ca. 1709. 1681 (1681) Wing R1863; ESTC R970 19,105 26

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Method of Lying because Charity ob●iges me to think Thomas Laurence makes Conscience not to tell a wilful and known Lye and I am the more engaged to call them by the name of Mistakes because of his Age which he saith is 81 Years and that in the numbering the Sheets of my Book he hath mistaken many for he saith they are 100 Sheets when as they want of 90. A part of his Mistakes in his own words are these First Thou hast abused George Fox double 1st Judged him by Hear-say 2dly Judged him for advising to hide Goods in any Case Secondly You Preach up Doctrine but leave out Christs-Government and so you are rightly called Seperates putting asunder what God hath joyned together parting Husband and Wife cutting off the Body from the Head as if they were all Traytors Thirdly That we have asserted many things that are not true but proves it not Fourthly That George Fox was the first that did begin the difference amongst Friends by setting up Monthly and Quarterly Meetings Fifthly That the Seperates a nick-name put upon us will have no increase of Christs Government and yet in the 28 p. of the Third Part of my Book I assert in these words And since 't is undoubtedly so that of the Increase of Christs Government there shall be no End Sixthly That we charge our Opposers with Folly and Hypocresy that profess themselves Members of the True Church and Believes as the Church Believes Thomas Laurence quotes the Words of Christ as cited by me viz. As I hear I Judge that is saith Thomas Laurence hear the Party not report and so by his own false Construction of Christs words cited by me gives himself trouble to no purpose he further cites these following words That the Lord hath anointed and chosen George Fox to be in that Place amongst the Children of Light in this our day as Moses was amongst the Children of Israel in his day to set up Forms of Church-Government The Substance of the Words are laid down by me as seeming to be deducible from an Objection raised in the 9 pag. of the First Part he also saith that in the 29th page of the First Part I assert That the Place of Christs Government is only within in the Heart and further also that I assert It is repugnant to the Light in our Consciences to believe that Christs Government should rest upon any Man or Men to be Rulers over others He quotes not the Page that I may examine whether these last words are so laid down or not At present I have no Concern to trouble the Reader with what he saith thereto nor yet the rest of his Sheet which for the most part is touching his sense of Christs Government and to exalt the Service of George Fox above the Service of John Wilkinson and John Story his own Lines compared with his Title-Page and my Book is without any further Reply sufficient to shew his weakness my end in citing what Thomas Laurence hath cited of my words is chiefly to signifie that what I have so noted is all that he hath cited out of my Book to prove it Antichristian which when compared with the aforesaid Catalogue of Mistakes will no way erect the Title-Page Note A very Eminent Preacher as Tho. Laurence hath said dictated that Title unknown to him and contrary to his Mind nor yet the Person that was Dictator thereof nor yet the Second-days Meeting at London Observations on the Book partly in the Name of John Pennington and partly in the name of his Mother Mary Pennington The Title-Page runs thus John Penningtons Complaint against William Rogers relating to the Abuse and Injury done to the Memory of his worthy Father Isaac Pennington in misrepresenting and perverting some of his Writings in his Book Entituled the Christian-Quaker c. Whereunto is subjoined somewhat to manifest his Mother Mary Penningtons not shunning Sufferings for Truth c. occasioned by William Rogers his suggesting the contrary From the Title-Page two things may be expected by the Reader to be proved First That I misrepresent some of his Fathers Writings and Secondly That I pervert them They are both notoriously false and so will appear to any unbiassed Understanding Reader the Proof given by John Pennington is words of mine which he cites out of the 88 pag. of the Third Part of the Christian-Quaker viz. We think it necessary to cite a Testimony published in Print by Isaac Pennington the Younger in the Year 1660 being part of a discourse Entituled the Authority and Government which Christ excluded out of his Church As it lies altogether word for word and not taken by Parts and Pieces here and there these are all the Words of mine which he quotes for Proof and having done he treats thereon as if my words imported that I here would cite the whole Testimony of the said Isaac Pennington word for word and not by Parts and Pieces here and there when as my very words as they are cited by the said John Pennington clearly shew that my Intent and Purpose was to quote only one part of his discourse Entituled The Authority and Government which Christ excluded out of his Church as it lay altogether word for word and not taken by parts and Pieces here and there which I faithfully performed beginning at the beginning of a Paragraph after a full stop and so quoted about eight or ten sides without adding or deminishing a word and at length left off at a full stop nothing said by Isaac Pennington contradicts this the reason occurring in my Mind wherefore I so worded my meaning could not be to insinuate that I cited the whole Testimony because my very words declare that 't was but a part and the Motive wherefore I inserted these words as it lay altogether and not by parts and Pieces here and there was chiefly to quit my self from Jealousie that I had acted according to the Example of one of my Opposers within the City of Bristol who on a certain occasion had taken out of my writing a part of a Sentence in one place spoken on an occasion administred one day and a part of a Sentence in another place on an occasion administred another day and renders them in Manuscript as one entire Sentence spoken by me And forasmuch as John Pennington hath not laid down any of my words to shew wherein I have perverted some of his Fathers Writing I think it necessary to cite all that I say in relation to that Part of his Fathers Testimony which I have cited out of which words Perversion must be proved against me or else none can be proved at all the words do immediately follow what he hath cited to shew Misrepresentation and are these Our End in citing this Testimony is that the Impartial Reader may consider whether the said Testimony hath any Coherence with that part of the * Note meaning Rob Barclais 's Book of Government wherein he writ of a
THE SIXTH PART OF THE Christian-Quaker Distinguished from the Apostate Innovator BEING A JVST DEFENCE Against the Reproach of Scandalous Tongues and Pens AND A PROPER LOOKING-GLASS for a Meeting in London termed The Second-days Meeting who are reputed the Approvers of three Books or Papers against a Treatise Entituled The Christian-Quaker c. in Five Parts given forth by W. R. on behalf of himself and other Friends in Truth concerned By W. R. 2 Tim. 3.13 But Evil Men and Seducers shall wax worse and worse deceiving and being deceived London Printed for W. R. In the Year 1681. The SIXTH PART OF THE Christian-Quaker Distinguished from the Apostate and Innovator c. The INTRODUCTION DID my own Reputation as a Man or Christian lie only at Stake I might the sooner satisfie my self to remain in silence patiently to undergo the unjust Reproach of scandalous Tongues and Pens and solace my self with the Enjoyment of that Inward Peace which the Lord through his Mercy hath in the midst of all my Exercises for the clearing of my Conscience made me Partaker of But when I consider what Multitudes of the weaker sort of People are apt to be deceived by imbracing Shadows instead of Substance and Lies for Truth taking their measures of some Friends more from the reproachful and scandalous Terms undeservedly given by our Opposers than from Matter of Fact committed or any real ground of Conviction that such have merited our Opposers recriminating Reflections it hath been one Motive amongst others occasioning me once more to appear in Print and one part of my end therein is that some short discovery in a few Lines may be made so far as at present I find freedom in the Truth of the ways and meanes by which some simple-minded Friends have been betrayed to reproach their Friends and Neighbours when in reality they have had no just cause so to do unless a declared Dissatisfaction touching George Fox or others of Party with him on just occasion shall without any manner of Examination be deemed such In order to what I have premised I shall take a little notice of three Printed Books or Papers against the Book Entituled The Christian-Quaker c. The First In the Name of Christopher Taylor contains two Sheets three Quarters and is Printed for John Bringhurst The Second In the Name of Thomas Laurence containeth a part of a Sheet and the price thereof as he tells his Roader is an half-penny Printed for Benjamin Clark The Third Is partly in the Name of John Pennington and partly in the Name of his Mother Mary Pennington and contains two Sheets Printed also for Benjamin Clark Before I take notice of any thing therein contained I think meet to inform the Reader that the scope of their writing * Note A Reply to the said Book is ready for the Press and Names of Persons for whom they are Printed compared to what I find written in the 12th Page of the Immoduction of a Book against the Christian-Quaker in the Name of the Second-days Meeting are sufficient Evidence to Intelligent Persons among the People called Quakers that they are given forth by the Approbation of a Meeting usually consisting of uncertain numbers of uncertain qualified Persons called the Second-days Meeting in London who though they may pretend themselves to be invested with Spiritual Power to correct or suppress what is brought before them yet let all Friends know that these few Lines will remain as a Record to the Infamy and Shame of such as have approved such undeserved unchristian-like Language and Treatment wherewith the aforesaid Books or Papers are stuft as by these few Lines is made appear The Consideration hereof occasions me to signifie that one part of my Concern to take notice of the aforesaid Books or Papers is more to discover what is acted under Pretence of that Church-Government whereof the said Second-days Meeting is a part than to detect the Persons whose Names are subscribed to them and so leave every Readers Judgment free how far this Discovery renders them guilty of abominable Wickedness and Deceit 'T is frequently brought to my Ears that our Opposers common Discourse is That I have written a wicked Book against the Faithful Friends of Truth that if all I had therein written were true yet the Spirit that gave it forth must be wrong and the same with Hams because it discovers the Nakedness of a Father and publisheth it in Gath and Askalon to make the Vncircumcised rejoyce and such as dislike it on this ground have desired that it might be called in again This Discourse I am willing first to take notice of because by the scope of the aforesaid Books it seems to be the sense of the Givers forth and Apprevors there of If the meer discovering of Nakedness by one * Note John Pennington in the first page of his Complaint acknowledgeth me a Professor of Truth Professor of Truth against another be a Sin then doubtlese Paul was such a sort of Sinner in leaving it on Record That he withstood Peter the Eldest Apostle to the face because he was to be blamed for his Dissimulation Read the 2d Chapter to the Galatians and if any say Paul published it not in Gath and Askelon To this I answer that from the 14th verse of the said Chapter we learn that Pauls Reproof was before all men his words are these But when I saw that they went not the right way to the Truth of the Gospel I said unto Peter before all men If thou being a Jew livest as the Gentiles and not like the Jews why constrainest thou the Gentiles to do like the Jews I shall now leave it to the consideration of such as are acquainted with George Fox's Actions whether Peters Dissimulation be not a proper Looking-Glass for George to behold his Face in witness his Advice to Mary Pennington to secure Worldly-Estate from the Spoiler when 't was likely to be seized for Obedience to Christs Command compared with his reflecting Paper touching making away Estates from the Spoiler in time of Persecution for Worship of God according to the Apostle's Counsel witness his advice to Nathanael Crips and Robert Arch to buy their Tithes compared with his known Severity at other times against Payment of Tyths Witness his Advice to Friends in general not to Judge one another nor to lay open one anothers Weakness behind one anothers back nor yet to Back-bite and yet behaves himself in his Travel as if 't was great part if not the chief part of his Business so to do Witness his Counsel to follow Reports until the Original Reporter was found and yet take liberty to hear and receive Backbiting Reports against his Friends and not only so but to hide the Reporter when the Matter hath been denied that this hath been his State I am capable for to prove see Christian-Quaker 5th Part Pages 42 43 44 45 46 24 25 54 55 8. 'T is also observable as