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A09831 The refutation of an epistle, written by a certain doctor of the Augustins order within the citie of Leige together with the arguments, which he hath borrowed from Robert Bellarmine, to proue the inuocation of Saints. By Iohn Polyander, minister vnto the French Church in Dort: and now translated by Henry Hexham, out of French into English. Polyander à Kerckhoven, Johannes, 1568-1646.; Hexham, Henry, 1585?-1650? 1610 (1610) STC 20096; ESTC S100869 112,398 138

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on_o the_o cross_n between_o two_o thief_n as_o captain_n of_o the_o malefactor_n but_o you_o as_o though_o it_o be_v a_o virtue_n in_o you_o to_o do_v worse_o place_v he_o in_o heaven_n amid_o many_o seditious_a fellow_n and_o murderer_n canonize_v by_o your_o pope_n and_o too_o well_o know_v by_o your_o jacobins_n and_o jesuit_n what_o will_v bonaventure_n say_v at_o this_o who_o at_o last_o correct_v his_o own_o excessive_a praise_n aswell_o to_o the_o virgin_n mary_n as_o to_o the_o other_o saint_n depart_v confess_v in_o his_o 3._o sentence_n do_v 3._o quest_n 2._o sith_o that_o jesus_n christ_n be_v the_o saviour_n and_o universal_a redeemer_n of_o all_o mankind_n who_o have_v open_v the_o gate_n of_o heaven_n he_o only_o die_v for_o all_o therefore_o one_o ought_v not_o to_o shut_v out_o of_o this_o generallitie_n that_o be_v to_o say_v from_o the_o company_n of_o all_o those_o which_o christ_n have_v save_v the_o bless_a virgin_n mary_n nor_o to_o amplify_v the_o excellency_n 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jerusalem_n be_v extreme_o rebellious_a to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o prophet_n jeremy_n who_o in_o time_n past_o do_v say_v the_o same_o as_o you_o do_v at_o this_o day_n and_o maintain_v also_o obstinate_o as_o you_o do_v that_o they_o can_v not_o err_v the_o law_n say_v they_o shall_v not_o perish_v from_o the_o priest_n 18._o nor_o counsel_n from_o the_o wise_a nor_o the_o word_n from_o the_o prophet_n come_v and_o let_v we_o smite_v jeremie_n with_o the_o tongue_n and_o let_v we_o not_o give_v heed_n to_o any_o of_o his_o word_n according_a to_o the_o complaint_n which_o the_o prophet_n jeremie_n make_v thereof_o in_o the_o 18._o chap._n and_o 18._o verse_n but_o what_o do_v the_o lord_n answer_v they_o by_o the_o mouth_n of_o his_o prophet_n trust_v not_o in_o lie_v word_n 4._o say_v the_o temple_n of_o the_o lord_n the_o temple_n of_o the_o lord_n 11._o this_o be_v the_o temple_n of_o the_o lord_n be_v this_o house_n become_v a_o den_n of_o thief_n whereupon_o my_o name_n 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