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A03896 Newes from Rome concerning the blasphemous sacrifice of the papisticall Masse with dyuers other treatises very godlye [et] profitable. Hurlestone, Randall. aut 1550 (1550) STC 14006; ESTC S104348 30,125 110

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Aluta I thynke they condempne not the moderate vse of suche thynges but they moderate superfluitie Curi No they affyrme that God is worshyped nothynge at all by suche thynges What wyll you heare the trewe worship of God out of the gospel Iho. 4. The owre shal com sayth Christ when you shal worshyp the father neyther in the mountayne nor at Hierusalem you worshyp you cānot tell what we worship for saluation comyth from the Iewes but the houre shal come is nowe when the true worshipers shall worship in spirite trueth wolde god thys thynge chaunced not both to the thy sacrificers that Christe speakyth heare of the Iewes that is they wot not what they worship for seyng they binde the worshiping of god as they did to places tymes and sett houres I am afraied yt maye be aplied against them the which Christe aplied vnto the Iewes Aluta But the Iewes and the Christeanes be not a lyke that which ys spoken of the Iewes can not be aplied vnto the Christiāes Curi But what if they place the Iewes that is if for inwarde worshipe they folow carnal worship as the Iewes did must they not be here reproued and it is true that you saye the Iewes and the Christianes be not a lyke for the Iewish worshiping of God for the most parte was carnall whereas on the contrarie Christiās must pray worshyp God in spryte truth The sprite for the most part in the scriptures is contrarie to the flessh hipocrisie to trueth Nowe seing Christ takith from the Iewes spirite and trueth and giuith them to his Christianes it aperith that in that people was nothing but carnal worshiping and if you excepte a fewe euen were hipocrisie or elis he wold haue sayed as the Iewes haue prayed hitherto in spirite and trueth so my disciples shall praye here after wherfore wete you nowe that they worship god aright whiche feare him as the child the father trust vpon him caule vpon him caste on him al the care of this wreched lif the which worship afterwardes foloith almoste in dede to the poore Aluta As thoug god liked carnall thinges not the Iewissh seremonies for the worde knit with them and the commandment Curi Yes they pleased god but then only when faith was with them for what so euer she doth must nedes be acceptable vnto god because she alwayes eyeth hys worde and cōmādmēt but if ther were no faith it is manifest that those sacrifices were hated of god so muche they were from pleasing of him haue not all the prophetes in maner cōfessed this same Psal 50. Dauids sayenge is yf thou woldest haue had sacrifice I had gyuen the it for thou wylt not be delited with hole brent offe rynges The sacrifice to God is a lowely spirite thou wylte not despyse oh God a contryte and an humble harte Moreouer adde hyther that of Esaye Esa 1. Wherfore bringe you to me the multitude of sacrifices I am fylled with the hole burnt offrynges of youre rāmes and with the fatte of your fatlynges and desyred not the blood of youre oxen lambes and goates when you came to se my face who required this of you to treade myne aultares You se how boldly the prophetes reiecte the carnal worshyp cōmaunded by the law What thynke you they wolde say yf they lyued now of our worship ynges whiche haue not the wordes on theyr sydes and are mens mere dreames Aluta what worshyp then aloweth he Curi Althoughe this thynge were shewed afore and as it were by a lanise in fewe wordes yet out of the selfe same prophetes whom we sayde before set naught by this carnall worshyp it shall be manifestly declared you The psalme writer beynge aboute to shewe the trewe worshipinge of God sayth that he shall dwell in his tabernacle Psal 14. whiche walketh without spotte and worketh iustice Aluta What calleth the prophete there to walke with out spot Curi Who soeuer hathe goten a contrite spirite and beleueth suerly vpon Christ walketh without spotte for she as Peter wytnesseth in the actes purifieth our hartes on that sorte that we maye be ryghtfully nombred amonge those of whom it is spoken in an other place of the foresayd psalmes Psal 112 blessed are the vndefyled in the waye which walke in the lawe of the lorde for he feareth God trewly trewly trusteth God finally trewly worshypeth God Aluta What calleth he to worke rightuousnes for I thinke the prophete discenteth not from hymselfe as whiche alytle before ascribed as you saye ryghtuousnes to fayth no sayth the same cōsisteth by workes Heare I kyll you with youre owne darte Curi I said that to walke without spot is the same that to beleue because that faythe onely obtayneth the cleanes of the harte for Christes sake that cleanes I meane which is most frutfull of good workes he therfor workyth rightuousnes which by the outwarde innocēcie of life and by doīg good alwayes to his nighbour declarith his faith openly for that trust can not be true if it worke not and aplie hir selfe holy to hir brethernes profites Moreouer seyng the scripture requirith not only the rightuousnes of the hearte but also outwarde rightuousnes as a witnes of faith it is necessarie that with inwarde cleanes we couple outwarde that is the workes of loue after thys maner to walke with out spotte must be aplied to faith to worke rightuousnes to the outwarde comendation of loue Esa 2 what saye you that Esaye saithe thes thinges be so be ye wasshed sayth he be ye cleane take ye awaye the naughtines of youre endeuours from my sight giue ouer troublyng learne to doo well seke for iugemēt amēde the troubled iudge the fatherles helpe the wydowe Fyrst of all the prophete commaūdeth that we become cleane from the fylth of our synnes and from all vncleanes Then that we hyn der no mā oppresse no man brefely that we be wel and trewly myn deo towardes all men The fyrste parteineth to fayth for we can not be wasshed from the acustomed fylth of synne but by fayth The other to loue that the sence maye be This is the very and trewe worshyp of God yf a man feare God truste of God confesse that Christ is verely in the father and the father in Christe call on God aright thanke god aright and finally loue his neighboure as him self Aluta Whie then do ye Lutheranes condemne all ceremonies all outward worshipyng of god Curi Nothinge lesse so that they be taken onely for an introducciō and fyght not with the gospell This is my mynde that nothyng ought to be in more estimacion amonge vs then feare faythe and loue After that ones we haue obtayned these thynges we maye gyue our iudgement of the ceremonies not leauynge the worde an ynch besides thys I disalowe not in the church a decent vse of clothes vessels and such other thinges so that we be not persuaded that we gett goddes fauour by those
sit iubeo and the authoritie of the churche But nowe thankes be to God whiche hath deliuered vs frō theyr thraldome theyr authorities without the scripture is nothynge worth For we haue nowe free passage to the scryptures that we maye trye whether it be chaffe or corne that the pope with his noynted shauelynges haue taught vs. And where as God cōmaūded them to speake nothynge of theyr owne brayne the most part that they taught is deuylyshnes and nothynge but deuylyshnes in somoch that that sayenge of Christ in Mathewe is verefied of them ye breake the ordinaunces of God to kepe youre owne tradicions God ordayned that Christ shulde be a full and alonly sacrifice for mans synnes but they say no. God sayth in Esaye I alone haue troden the wyne presse but they say no. And in Exodus I am I am he my selfe whiche taketh away thyne iniquities and synnes for myne owne selues sake but they saye no. The Apostles teacheth there is none other waye to be saued then by Christe but they saye no. And why mary saye they oure mother the holy churche whiche can not erre teacheth vs that our masses are a ful sacrifice ex opere operato for the quicke and the dead Our mother the holy churche teacheth that men by gyuinge of vestmentes copes alterstones platers crosses chalyces cruettes and suche other beggerie deserue forgyuenes of synnes and worship God Our mother the holy church teacheth that the true worshypynge of sayntes is to cal vpon thē to paynte their ymages to set candels before thē to bowe downe to thē and make them mediatours betwixte God and man / althoughe the scripture be manifestly agaynst it as apeteth in the fyrste epistle vnto Timothe in the seconde chapter Therefore as often good christen reader as the authoritie of the churche is layde agaynste the marke whether it be grounded vpon the scrypture or no yf it be grounded vpon the scrypture receyueit for Christe sayth my shepe heare my voyce But yf it be not remembre what saynt Paule sayth yf we or an angell from heauen preached you a gospell besydes that we haue preached you let him be acursed as we sayd before So I now saye agayne yf any man preache you a gospel besydes that ye haue receyued let him be acursed Then yf he that teacheth an other gospell be acursed why shall not he be acursed that receyue it Relynqueshed therfore and forsake suche toyes as haue ben inuēted by mā contrarie to gods wyl testamēt And to thintente thou mayst forsake them the soner I haue translated these treatises ensuenge Of whome the fyrst teacheth playnly that the papisticall Masse is no sacrifice but rather a blasphemie of Christes passiō inuēted by mā The next techeth how God must be worshypped aryght The third how sayntes ought to be worshyp ped The last what is Christianly bextie And although their be many other thinges cōteyned in thē yet these be the chefe pryncipall maters which the aucthor toke in hande purposely to teache whom reade thou with desyre of the trueth And I doubte not but God wyll call the by them from many grosse errours and encrease in the knowledge of his wyll that maist be partaker of the toyes prepared for the by christ So be it Mithobius / Polilogus WHat Polilogues when cam you out of Italy I thought you wolde scarsely haue come agayne within thre yeres namely because you goynge frō hence to lerne sayd as the end of my way is a great way hence so it shall be a great whyle or that I come agayne Poli. It is trewe I was so determined whē I wēt hence but you must remēbre that in such viages many thynges do chaunce wherof it is lawefull to say I wyst not Mith. Then bring you no dingnite vpon your shulders from Italie the fautour of lernynge Pol. Yes a wonderfull dignite as bare as may be neuer a penye in my purse and concernynge learnynge I brynge not one whit more thē I caried forth with me Mith. Molde God that you came not hoome without all godlynes alsō as they do for the most part which come from thēce hyther Poli. I myght haue done so if I wold haue lefte the godlines that I learned in Germanie and played the Romane but if you knowe not the belly goddes deuyllyshnes caused me to tarye no longer for although the Italians be wel learned in humanitie yet they so abhorte true religion that amonge thē there is nothing more despised Mith. You remēber then what I sayd vnto you a litle before you went the Italians be learned but not godly Poli. When I chaunced to talke somwhat of godlines sometymes amonge them it came to passe that they then confirmed that name which you gaue me in tymes past cauling me a great talker wher as by myne owne iudgement I am scarse worthie to be rekened amonge them which speake least Mith. Amonge them that speake least whom I knowe if nede require is fuller of tonge then any in all the hole worlde Poli. You flater me now as you were wonte to do but I neuertheles spoke frely against the Italians when nede required not caring thus moch whether they were offeded or no so that I spoke the trueth Mith. but as it is not safest to speake the truthe alwayes amonge the Italians so it is not best But what yf you had bene rewarded of the same forte for your talkynge as Theocritus Chius was of Antigamus Calisthenes of Alexādre and Antipho of Dionisius I meruell greatly that your fre talking proued so well Poli. all thynges proued very well Mith. Whome thāke you for good fortune your owne folishnes or as the Germanes vse to saye god of fooles Poli. Forsoth god for he fauored me so moch ether laboring by the waye or tarienge for some space in the cities that I in dede plainely percepued that he pruided for me Howbeit leest you shoulde be ignorant in al places and amonge all mē I pleyed not Polilogus Mith. I wold haue beleued that although you neuer had sworn for I know howe necessarie such wisedome is in Italy Poli. I marked the time I marked the place I marked such as were present Mith. Uery well Poli. yf I met with good mē and such as fauored the trueth me thought it a greate fault to leaue the truth howbeit I brideled my tonge so that I touched not them which are euell spoken of in Germanie for theyr hipocrise and when I came in companie withe obstinate euel men there I spake nothynge or very lytle Mith. Brake you neuer these bōdes as long as you were abrode Poli. I broke them twyse except my remēbraūce fayle me as we were typplyng by ouersyght and that at Rome The fyrste for asmoche as it was tollerable and made not greatly agaynst the estimacion of sacrificers was ascribed to dronkenes The other because it semed to turne to the slaunder and reproche of the most holy and of them which worshyppe this