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A83515	The third part of Gangræna. Or, A new and higher discovery of the errors, heresies, blasphemies, and insolent proceedings of the sectaries of these times; with some animadversions by way of confutation upon many of the errors and heresies named. ... Briefe animadversions on many of the sectaries late pamphlets, as Lilburnes and Overtons books against the House of Peeres, M. Peters his last report of the English warres, The Lord Mayors farewell from his office of maioralty, M. Goodwins thirty eight queres upon the ordinance against heresies and blasphemies, M. Burtons Conformities deformity, M. Dells sermon before the House of Commons; ... As also some few hints and briefe observations on divers pamphlets written lately against me and some of my books, ... / By Thomas Edvvards Minister of the Gospel.; Gangraena. Part 3	Edwards, Thomas, 1599-1647.	1646 (1646)	Wing E237; Thomason E368_5; ESTC R201273	294,455	360

or any of the money Upon this he went to a Counsellor at Law one Mr. W. related his case desiring his councell in it He advised him to make no words of it say nothing but at the Sessions endite him and get a Warrant of a Suddain before he could take councell to fetch him away and it may be being so surprised he would pay him the money rather then stand it out to answer it at the Sessions The Citizen followed his advise when the Sessions came had a bill drawn against him the Atturney who had seen the Bond witnessed there was such a speciall tye the Bill was found and a Warrant sent out for to attach him the Officer serving it and threatning presently to carry him away thereupon this Sectary confessed his evill he entreated his mercy that he would not shame him publikely it should be a warning to him for ever after and so he paying the money the man prosecuted him no further A Relation of some remarkeable Passages of divers Sectaries and of the Contents of severall Letters written up here to London from good hands conc●rning them THere is one Mr. Knollys an Anabaptist spoken of in my first part of Gangraena and in this third part page 48. 49. a Letter of his is printed this man preaches up and down in severall Churches in London and Southwark● and that with all fiercenesse against Childrens Baptisme and against our Ministers as being Antichristian and having no call to baptize and among other places where he hath preached lately he preached this Novemb. the 15. at Georges Church in Butolph-lane in the afternoone on these words He that beleeveth and is baptized shall be saved where after he had spoken of beleeving in the latter part of his Sermon comming to speak of baptizing he used these words I have spoken to you of the first part of the Gospell believing I must be faithfull and speak to you of the second viz. baptizing and of that there is as great a necessity as believing and therefore I advise and charge all you who believe to be baptized and whereas it may be you will object you are baptized already I answer that is a lye indeed you were rantized but not baptized and that too was into the name of your God-fathers which was blasphemy and not into the name of the Father Sonne and Holy Ghost besides they who did it had nothing to do with Baptisme as being no Ministers but Antichristian and whereas heretofore these Ministers of the Church of England rantized into the name of their Godfathers now to mend the matter they do it into the name of their Fathers There is one Mr. Symonds a great Sectarie Mr. Cradocks Colleague who came to London since the wars and preached at little Alhallowes Thames-street and at the Tower where I have been informed from godly understanding men as well Ministers as others that he hath preached severall strange things as for a Toleration and liberty for all men to worship God according to their consciences and in favour of Antipaedobaptisme and so preaching once at Andrewes Vndershaf● for Mr. Goodwin he preached high strains of Antinomianisme as that Christ was a legall Preacher and liv'd in a dark time and so preached the Law but afterwards the Gospel came to be preached and preaching at Laurence Pountneys summer was twelvemoneth on the day of thanksgiving for taking of Sherborn Castle he spake of the great Victories the Saints had obtained for us viz. the Independents and yet now the Parliament was making Lawes against these Saints with other things to that purpose and as at London he hath preached thus so since he left London this last Summer he preached at Bath before the Generall strange stuffe as I have been told from understanding men who heard him viz. against Presbytery saying it was a limb of Antichrist pleading for liberty of conscience and for those who would not have their children baptized till they came to years of understanding and for Weavers and ignorant mechanicks preaching and speaking of these mens guifts and having the spirit before learned men and men bred at Universities with a great deale of this stuffe insomuch that Mr. Bode● Minister of the Bath as I was informed confuted his Sermon the next Lords day and spake against it insomuch that ●ome of the Independent Souldiers as C. B. c. ●lung out of the Church in the midst of the Sermon and would not heare him out and truly 't is a sad thing that Sir Thomas Fairfax that valiant and well-affected Gentleman should have such kind of Chaplains and Preachers upon all occasions to preach before him as Mr. Dell Mr. Saltmarsh Mr. Peters Mr. Cradock M. Symonds M. William Sedgwick and such like and I have spoken the more of this Mr. Symonds because I hear he is nominated for one of the Itinerary Preachers of VVales that so the Country and Ministers may be ware of him where he comes and that the Assembly when he comes to be approved of may doe their duties and not let him passe so easily as they did Mr. Cradock There is Mr. Burton of London a great Independent who hath these five last years written many wild and weak Pamphlets beginning with his Pr●testation Protested and ending with his Conformities Deformitie in which Pamphlets the poore man hath laid down many grounds of Donatisme and pure Brownisme yea of Libertinisme and of a generall Toleration of all Religions and hath laid about him striking all who have come neere him without feare or wit whether whole Assemblies and Societies or particular persons he hath cast durt in the face of the Church of Scotland and their generall Assembly our Assembly this famous City of London and the Honourable Court of Common Councell the Ministers of Sion Colledge particular Ministers M. Calamie my selfe and others nay he hath not spared his Brother Prynne his Brother Bastwick his good old friend M. Vicars and in all these five years among all the Books he hath put forth notwithstanding all the damnable Hereticks and Blasphemers among us hath not had the heart to speak one word for God against them which gives too just ground for the world to thinke M. Burtons former oppositions of Arminianisme Popery c. was not out of zeale for God and his truth and hatred of those errours but out of discontent and spleen against the Bishops who had crossed him in his hopes of preferment For if it had been out of zeale against the errours and not out of anger against the men how could he thus patiently beare all the injuries and dishonours of Christ and his truth done by other men even a hundred times worse then before Did Mr. Burton know what some of his wisest Brethren have said and do say of his Books he would give over writing as that his writings are weake and do more hurt then good would to God he would give over his writing Shall I tell M. Burton what Mr. Nye

that kind beene at few meetings of that nature and do professe I am so farre from being ambitious in that way that I should account it a great happinesse to have a call to a place only to preach and write and a yeerely Pension for the maintenance rather then Tyths Thirdly I began to write my Gangrenaes and have continued to write on since which time I have beene accused to do all out of policie worldly interest in the times of the growth and raigne of the Sectaries when they have beene in their greatest power and most formidable able to sit on the skirts and to crush those who have opposed them of which there are many instances which I well knew and to preferre and honor those who adhered to them and yet in such a time have I writ against them and more and more laid them open which certainly could be no policie worldly interest but piety and duty to appeare in so open a manner against the rising side I well knew the Sectaries strengh policie activnes and how England was a bad Aire at that time and still is for zealous Presbiterians to thrive in much might be lost by it but nothing gained I understood the faithfull witnesses had not yet put off their sackcloch had I indeed written against the Sectaries when they had beene on the declining hand and cast out as the Bishops when all men in high places had turned their hand against them this might have beene interpreted Policy wordly Interest but to do it in a time when the Sectaries had so many friends in high places such an influence upon our Armies Councels c. so many for them in City and Country I beleive no wise man who considers it will call it Selfseeking or Policy I may say in this case as Job in another Is there any taste in the white of an Egge So is there any Policy in what I have done 4. I have beene so farre from getting any thing by my open and earnest appearing against the Sects that I have suffered and lost much and am exposed to all sorts of hazards and dangers for so doing I beleeve I have suffered more in my name Estate losse of Friends c. then any Sectarie in England hath done for maintaining and spreading his Errors I could have beene the darling of the Sectaries in regard of my former Interest and acquaintance with many of them so I would but have held my peace and done them no hurt though I had not beene theirs I could have had more friends among the Presbyterian party to have beene more moderate as they call it for such a time have we fallen into of Luke warmnesse and favour of Sectaries that the being earnest against them hath made some who goe for Presbyterians not to owne me as otherwise they would for feare of being taken notice of but I have lost all them and many friends more that had some relation to Independents having been deserted of many with whom I had kept unviolable friendship a long time I have suffered by that party in some places in the City where I have beene sought unto and earnestly desired by the knowne godly party I having beene kept out by the Sectaries meanes either by joyning together with Malignants against me or taking off some friends or working one way or other I have suffered much in my name all manner of evill having beene spoken of me having beene reviled scorned every Sectaries hand turned against mee been for a signe to be spoken against O the ●ard speeches and contradictions not only of sinners but of many Saints to that I have endured I have been threatned in many kinds and there have been consultations what to do with me Lawyers have beene advised with what might be done in Law in such cases of men being named the Parliament hath beene stirred up in severall Pamphlets against me as in Gangraena playes Rex Walwyns and Saltmarsh's Pamphlets they would upon pretences make the Parliament fall upon me and have said they hoped the House of Commons would be at leisure ere long to talk with me and besides what I have suffered and doe suffer I looke upon my selfe as exposed to many dangers and sufferings running a great hazard in this undertaking I know there are some desperate men among them like the Circumcelliones among the Donatists and what may not they doe if God restrain them not I am not ignorant what a strong party they have what a proud generation they are impatient of all contradiction and being crossed to whose Sheafe they think all Sheafes should bow nor what a subtile malitious revengefull people they are I am sensible what t is at this time to lay them thus open even as much as to catch an angry Lion by the beard and to stop him in his way rearing after his prey or as to meet with a chafed Beare robbed of her whelps and therefore in stead of once dreaming of worldly interest the favour of men I have laboured to prepare my self for persecutions and troubles to forecast the worst having set God and his Truth for my helpe which are stronger then all 5. I have beene so farre from Policy Selfe-Interest in wrighting against the Sectaries that I was never guilty of these things in any way I ever appeared for I never was the man since I came to years of understanding that ever put the question which was the strongest and the rising side they never fell under my deliberation but which was the good side for God and his Truth that was enough to me I looked to that and never troubled my thoughts about rising or great things in the world as never expecting them and in my adhering to one party or side before another I have still done it but so farre as they have beene for God and his Truth freely declaring my selfe at the same time I have beene theirs against wherein they have declined from the Truth and way of God 6. Whereas the Sectaries cast Policy worldly-Interest c. upon me they themselves are most faulty in this kind and if the Independents Churches and Lectures with other their worldly Interests be compared with mine their hundreds with my scores their applause being cryed up with my being cryed downe their living in pompe and feasting almost every day with my slender diet their ease with my labours it will be found many of them fell to be Sectaries out of ambition pride profit and that they might live easily Calvin in his Instruction against Libertines showes the reason why Quintinus and his companions of Taylors became Doctors were so changed that they might live delicatly and easily and not be put to labour for their Livings They thought it better for them that as the Priests and Monks got their Livings by chanting so they by prating and so no question one great reason of many Mechanicks turning preachers and Dippers is because they may leave working and live delicatly

Heresies and Sects that they which are approved may be made manifest among us The good Lord in due time purge his Church and now his Fanne is in his hand let us pray that he may thoroughly purge his floore nothing but pure Wheat shall be in the Lords Barne Lord thy will be done in Earth as it is in Heaven so commending your holy labours both in Pulpit and Presse to the blessing of God I rest Your lover in the Truth and for his sake who is ipsa veritas Nichol. North. From Dover July 13. 1646. Sir Last day repeating to my people here in Saint James Parish the summe of these Errors that they might avoid the like Captaine Temple a great stickler in this Town for the maintenance of all Sects as I hear sent me this letter after Sermon being as it seems displeased that I should forewarn my people of Heresies and Errors I pray consider of it and make the best use of it you can The man is a stranger to me and I an to him I never saw him to my knowledge and he did not hear me preach that day he wrote to me though in his Letter he sayes he is my observer Mr. North DOubtlesse you may get into your peoples affections with enveighing against any pretenders to Religion as if all such did hold such points as your story wherewith you filled up your hour But I pray Sir be so honest as to tell them this afternoon that it was very likely that Tiltboat ●ent your companion to London was an Atheist one of your Church of England For such swearers drunkards blasphemers do use to go in your Tilt-boat and there talk of Religion according to your story But all wise men know your objects of spleen called Independents Anabaptists c. hold fundamentalls in Religion and can maintain it by Scripture better then your self Your observer Miles Temple Dover the 12. July 1646. This is a true Copie to a tittle of Master Temples Letter sent to Master North on the Lords day July the 12. 1646. Attested by Nicholas North John Dy●us Ministers A Copie of a Letter from a worthy Minister in the West of England Worthy Sir I Had not the happinesse either to see or heare of the second part of Gangraena till within these very few dayes The first part did so much good in weakning the reputation of the Sectaries and marring their market wheresoever it came that it is not unlikely there may be meanes used by some agents in London to hinder the spreading of this How it comes to passe I know not but if any corrupting Books come forth making for Independency or any of the Sects we are sure to here of them soon enough and finde them in too many hands I am glad you have made good your ground so well against Cretensis whose bitter arrogant unministeriall stile and passages will be enough to lay open to the world the temper of the mans spirit though you should be silent In that which concernes Master Burroughs I thought verely you had been mis-informed He utterly denyed the truth of that relation to a good Presbyteriall friend of his and mine who alwaies hath had him in good esteem for piety sure it will amaze his friend and many others when they shall see this largenesse of conscience in Master Burroughs You cannot immagine how I was struck at the reading of it If Saints of the first magnitude in the Independent way the greatest pretenders to conscience can do this what credit can we give to the rest such Presbyterians as they will scarce owne to be Saints have not that latitude of conscience to tell 〈…〉 willingly much lesse write it print it and give it under their h●●ds to all the world This is too too bad As concerning that Collier whom you spake of in your Book I could give you a large relation as how he was banished out of Garnesey he and many more of his followers whom hee had seduced for their heresies and turbulent behaviour afterwards imprisoned at Po 〈…〉 th 〈◊〉 was the ●irst that sowed the seeds of Anabaptism Anti-sabbatari●●ism and some Arminianisme among the rest in these parts hee hath had the boldnesse to publish two or three pamphlets full stuffed with erroneous principles and ●avouring of an illitterate Carter or an Husbandman for so he is by his calling I heare though now by usurpation a Preacher The first time he preached amongst us which was in time of publike exercise some that heard him said afterwards if that were true which Master Collier had taught them they would never heare any of our Min●●ters more You may guesse his doctrine by the use was made of it doubtlesse 〈◊〉 was stronge poison he gave them that wrought so strongly at first Sir if I were not in great haste I should writ more at large I should be glad to heare from you in a word o● two how things are likely to goe for which I shall rest June 1646. Your thankfull friend A Copie of a Letter sent from some of the Committee of the City of Exeter to some of that City here in London GEntlemen we referre you to our former Letter sent you by post wherein we gave you information of the imprisoning of our honest Citize●s by the Deputy Governour and Officers of that Garrison they yet continue in custody The Committee was refused to have the knowledg of the cause of their imprisonment Our Constables are opposed in doing their duties in a word they do openly contemne and violently incroach upon the civill power contrary to former ordem sent them Yesterday they demanded more monies of us for the Garrison We do what in us lyeth to oppose them in their undue courses But the insolencie of this day is such that we thought it our duty to make this present dispatch to you doubting what a day may bring forth The cause is thus we taking notice of the frequent preaching of Captaines at the Castle Guild-Hall and in private housés and of their drawing away of the people thought it necessary with the advice of Ministers to have the Ordinance of Parliament of the twentie sixth of Aprill 1645. to be published which prohibits all such to preach as were not ordained Ministers c. which accordingly was read at the Cathedrall before the morning Sermon this day The Deputy Governour hearing it commands it to be read the second and third time the Officers jeering and scoffing all the time of the publishing of it in contempt both of the Ordinance and of the Committee After the Sermon was ended the Deputy Governour most presumptuously stands up in the Bishops seat and takes upon him publikely to give the meaning of the Ordinance and saith aloud that it did not forbid their meetings and that in the after-noones they would have their exercise in the Custle which accordingly they had and that he had the command of the City and of all that were in it with many words

the increase of Errors there and that there was a woman Preacher there who ●ents many Heresies as that the Scriptures were not the word of God that the drowning of the old World and story of Noah were not true there were no such things with other things of that nature July the eighth a godly Minister lately of this City told me in the presence and hearing of other Ministers as a certain truth this story That at a house in Red-crosse street or thereabouts there met some Sectaries where some forty persons being present one of then exercised his gifts and in his exercise preached these Doctrines 1. That Jesus Christ was not God not the Son of God 2. That the Scriptures were not the word of God and brought many arguments to prove it 3. That the souls of men dye with their bodies Now as he was delivering these points there was a woman present that wept bitterly speaking words to this effect If this Doctrine be true what shall I do I have many yeers beleeved in Jesus Christ and hoped to be saved but now what will become of me Which words this blasphemous Sectary taking notice of said good woman you need not be troubled for though Christ be not God neither any certainty of the Scripture being the word of God yet if you live honestly and modestly you shall do well enough besides this fellow said there are two Witnesses or Prophets coming shortly that will bring Scriptures with them and then you and I shall know what to do and to beleeve There is an Independent who came some yeers ago out of New-England and is made a Captaine here who left a wife and many children there and after he was come over never sends nor writes to his wife nor takes no care for the●r subsistence but as it seems by Letters written to New-England and from thence this Captaine hath been sometimes neer the marrying others here in England in so much as a Letter was written to him b●one whom I suppose an Elder at the desire of the Church to deale with him about it which Letter I have read as also a Letter from his wise wherein she wonders she could not hear from him and prayes him to consider in what state he left her and those children and how unable both she and they are for any inployment and for to show the truth of this Relation I shall give the Reader a true copie of the Letter sent him out of New-England which is as followes Captaine and beloved Brother HAving an opportunity I embraced it to write unto you being also desired by the Church we earnestly desi●ing your good in the Lord. I wonder that you would never sens a word neither to my self nor any friend of yours we knew not whether to write unto you untill this opportunity Your wife is yet a live and never received word nor penny from you And which is most sadde we are informed by two Letters that you have been sometimes ready to marry others which you know is very evill and condemned by the Law of England as well as by the Law of God we hope you will take it to heart together with your forgetfulnesse of your wife and children It showes that your heart is declined from God and we hold it our duty to recover you if we can by the blessing of God upon the meanes we shall use Good Sir take some time to consider of your wayes the time will come when you must give account for them to the great Judge of all We shall expect to hear an answer from you concerning this businesse for God calls us to purge his Church from such evils as these are Thus with my love unto you and prayers to the Lord to recover you and humble you I rest Your loving friend Richard Blinman Glocester in New-England December 4. 1645. THere is one Sir Worts who being newly Bachelor of Arts came down into Norfolke and would have had such a place in Norfolke which some of the godly Ministers thought him not fit to take the Cure of upon him being so young having so lately commenced Bachelor whereupon this young youth being angry at the Ministers for missing the place the next newes the godly Ministers heard was that he was turned Independent had gathered a Church and people running eight or ten miles after him with a great deale of violence crying him up and amongst other of his converts that turned Independents and followed this Worts a godly Minister of that Country told me one of his Parish who would lie often in blind Alehouses and be often drunk being not admitted by him to the Lords Supper but being wished by this Minister to repent and give some testimonies of it before he came upon non-admittance turned Independent presently and followed this Worts but a while after this man was struck sick on a Munday dying on the Friday or Saturday after and would not admit his Minister to come at him but sent for Worts and in his sicknesse lay all the while speaking and extolling the Church-way to all who came to see him but not doing any thing which concerned a man in that case who had been guilty of so great sinnes and so died A godly Minister told me that he knew an old man an Anabaptist that lived at Ashford in Kent or thereabouts who will bee drunken and when he is drunk then he will weep much and bewaile the blindnesse of the Church of England About May last I was told it by two or three good witnesses that a Souldier belonging to the Army and one who had been a Dipper came not long before that to a Town in Bedfordshire called Ravensdowne and got up into the ●●lpit against the will of the Minister preaching for Universall Grace against Poedobaptisme against Tyths whereupon for preaching whether the Minister would or no one of the Town fetcht a Warrant for him against he came down from the Pulpit to bring him before a Knight a Justice of Peace of that County and when he came before him he gave him uncivill words and carried himself disrespectively telling him that if he committed him he should be fetcht forth with honour and to the Justices dishonour but the Justice binding him over to the Sessions and being brought thither desiring some exemplary justice against him for contempt of his authority a Letter came from some Commander I am not sure who for to send his Souldier to him and so as the story was told me the Justices released him and let him go An honest godly man of good understanding told me lately that one being spoken unto about sending the Army into Ireland he said there should not go six parings of the nails of Sir Thomas's Army into Ireland though it were lost ten times over better that lost then England hazarded by sending away the Army At Hampden in Buckinghamshire there is one Potter a Smith who hath been a souldier and is come out

Parliament men came downe as I take it upon one of the Cities Petitions about Church Government for say the Independents the Presbyterians will get the upper hand he refused to go and answered them who spake to him in words to this effect You little know what you do and whose work you further in opposing the Presbyterians for saith he the Independents in Old-England are nothing like to them of New-England no more then black to white you Independents here do that which we abhorre there I met ●ith this man with one who came from New-England and he held himself there an Apostle for which he was whipped and here h● is a great preacher and in great account and this he told to divers This man is accounted a godly man in New-England and went back thither this June For a further proof and confirmation of this here is a person of good account one of the Committee of Account that speaks confidently of informations he hath received of the coming over of Jesuits on purpose to mixe themselves with Independents and the Sectaries to increase that Faction for th●ir own ends I have been told also with much confidence that a Gentleman going through Col●man-street and seeing great store of People coming out of an Alley asked what the matter was some told him they were Sectaries come now from their Conve●●ticles whereupon standing still to take notice what manner of People they were he sawe come out among them fome whom he had known to be Jesuits and Priests There is a young man a Schollar and a preacher who lived some years in Holland and that among some of our English Sectaries sometimes of the Church of Ar●b●im who tells me they all generally and their Families were Anabaptists and that they made much of that scurrilous wicked book The Arraigment of Persecution These Sectaries not many months before they came over into England namely about the Spring last gave thanks at one of their Church meetings for a Toleration of the Sects which as they heard had passed th● House of Commons which the Beformed Ministers of that place hearing of were much troubled at it yet hoping it was not so that God would not leave the Parliament to be guilty of so great an evill after he had done so much for them These Sectaries would speak much against the Covenant and this Preacher hath heard some of them say they would be hanged before they would take it and had rather see one another hanged then to take that abominable Covenant One of the compapany used to preach constantly in the forenoon and then in the afternoon two or three others by turns as Master C. Master A. and when these were from home and there was no preaching then their Families staid at home and would not heare the English Reformed Ministers but some of them said If those Ministers would promise never to preach for Baptisme of Children nor against their way they would hear them Upon the newes coming over of the burning of Master Archers booke that made God the author of sinne they justified all in that book saying what was in it was his to a word and one of them said he could shew the Copy and they spake much against Assembly Parliament and that he had as high a place in heaven as any of them would have and they would make what he had written good This young man once speaking against the opinion they were very angry at him saying what had he to do they would speak against our Ministers with much indignation and scorn as if none of them had any worth A worthy Member of the House of Commons told me the last day of August that one Captaine B. told him we had beene fed by our Ministers tha● mens souls when they die went to heaven but now we see a New Light in that they do not go to heaven to whom this Parliament man replyed That the souls of the faithfull do for Christ told the thief Luke 24. To day shalt thou be with me in Paradise unto whom this Captain replyed That to day was to be referred to Christs saying so and not to the time when he should be in Paradise so that the meaning was Christ said unto the thief those words to day but not that to day he should be in paradise with him and so the words were to be read Verily I say unto thee to day and there the point and then after to be read thou shalt be with me in Paradise which though it should not be to the end of the world would be no impeachment of the truth of Christs speech whereupon this Parliament man answered to this purpose this were to make Christ eqivocate and deceive like as your faction does Animadversions upon this Exposition THis Sectary is not the first that hath wrested this place thus but some before him have separated to day from the words that follow and joyned it with the words going before so that the distinction should be Amen I say unto thee to day and then should follow thou shalt be with me in paradise upon which let the reader look Theophylact who handle this place largely and Jansenius Harmony on the Gospell Cap. 143. besides in the Greek Copies to day is joyned with the words thou shalt be and not with the word I say of which read Beza upon the place yea le ts looke upon the words they are an answer of Christs to the Theifs prayer that Christ would remember him when he came into his Kingdome not to remember him in this world to save him from the Crosse and temporall death now Christs answer is accordingly that he shall be partaker of his heavenly Kingdome and tells him the time to day that is thou shalt be with me without any delay and so there shall be no danger that I shall forget thee when I come into my Kingdome for behold this very day I shall take thee to my Kingdome vide Rollock in Cap. 19. Johan The theif in his prayer speaks to Christ as going presently into his Kingdome and desires to be remembred upon his coming thither as now being upon the Crosse in a cursed condition now if Christ had said to him then he should be with him but not told him the time when the theif knowing he should be dead to day but meaning it of a long time two thousand years af●er this would not have been so comfortable to the theif besides there was no reason nor need of adding to day to that word I say to th 〈…〉 for the theif knew they were spoken to day yea at that instant to him neither could to day be for asseveration Christ using that word word of asseveraton A 〈…〉 instead of that neither is there any paralell place in Scripture where to day is used in such an acception There is one Master John Ba●hil●r Licenser-Generall of the Sectaries Books and of all sorts of wicked opinions Licenser to Master

any of them or all of them upon any of the points controverted and I can put forth an Answer to their new Modell and shake their Babel and if God spare me life and h●al●h but a few yeares they shall find by Gods gracious help that by my pen and preaching not with swords and armed men as they propagate their cause I shall make Independencie Anabaptisme all kind of Sectarisme and a Toleration as vild and cheap as ever L●tther made the Popes Supremacy Indulgences and Pardons Purgatory and the Doctrine of merit and however Master Goodwin pu●s a bold face upon it writing thus to cast a scorn jeare and a blur upon my writings which he cannot tell how to Answer yet I know and can prove it he and his party fear my writings and are more troubled at them then at any other mans who hath yet appeared As for Mr Burroughs Vindication presently after it came forth I drew up an Answer to it of about some ten sheets an Answer so full that hardly a line escaped without some Animadversion and had I thought his time had been so short it had come forth in his life that he might have confidered what he had done in that Answer which I had in a plaine home way charged on his Conscience and how unlike the spirit that breathed in that Book was to what Master Burroughs had written of a gracious spirit of Selfe-deniall of Love and brotherly agreement being a book made up of great passion horrible pride scornfulnesse equivocations many un truths as I have fully shewed but being more carefull and zealous of Gods name and truth then mine own and seeing that so deeply suffer in the Errors Heresies Blasphemies Insolent practises of the Sectaries I laid my Answer by from fully perfecting it till I had put forth a Third Part of Gangraena and a Treatise against Toleration then resolving to re-assume my Answer to Master Burroughs Master Goodwin and some others of them but it hath pleased God before my Third Part of Gangraena could be printed to take Master Burroughs out of this life for which I am heartily sorry and the more besides that I should have bin glad he might have read my book because I do conceive the putting it forth after his death may be liable to more mis-constructions then it could have been in his life time so that now whether I should publish it I or no or rather let it dye with Master Burroughs I am in suspense and shall advise upon it what may be best in that case however I am fully satisfied t is lawfull for a man in severall cases to put out Answers to Books though the Authors of them be dead and in regard Master Burroughs dealt so uuworthily with me I might be well excused if I should put it forth but whether I do or no I desire the Reader to take notice of my Answer to two or three particulars I for his excusing himself about that objected he gave under his hand concerning the story of Nichols by saying the story of Nichols page 79. is all false all of it being proved true and a mistake only in a Circumstance that he meant only that part of it in that page not medling with that in another page I Answer This is a new equivocation brought to salve the other for as the first was an equivocation upon the word such a meeting so this is upon the page 79. and if he intended not to deceive the Reader by possessing him against me why did he not say that part of the story of one Nichols page 79. was false but that story Master Edwards hath which implies the whole and t is apparent Mr Goodwin and all Mr Burroughs friends took it so viz. of the whole and if Master Burroughs had been alive I had provided an Appeale to his Conscience to have put him to answer me as in the presence of God whether in writing that paper sent to Cretensis he did not think men would not or could not find it out but would take it as conceiving all that story of Nichols false and if Master Burroughs had meant fairly why did he not acknowledge what was true in the story as the first part now confessed true and for the Second Part of it why did he not confesse at a meeting Master Greenhill told him such and such things and that he answered Mr Greenhill so and so and have denied it was a set meeting upon that occasion If Mr Burroughs had done thus he had dealt fairly but this would not have made good Mr Burroughs his end to breed a beleif in the Reader of the falsenesse of matters related in my book I had then bin rendred to the Reader only mistaken in a circumstance of a story which would have been accounted no great matter and the truth of the story for the substance and the severall particulars in it would have weighed down all misprision in the minds of men against me by reason of that circumstance 2. For that Master Burroughs charges me with page 2 and 3. that when I have heard vild reproachfull things against such as I owned to be godly and they living neer me in the City have sent to me to offer to satisfie me if I would confer with them and cleerly convince me of the falsenesse of such reports how the men were traduced and I abused in such reports yet that I should refuse to conferre with them and fall a laying on c. I do utterly deny that ever there was any such thing or any ever sent to me and cannot imagine any reason in the world Master Burroughs should writ so and whoever told him any such thing abused him and I could by many reasons prove the contrary if I were giving a formall Answer to Master Burroughs Book Is it likely that I who have gone on purpose to so many and do dayly upon all occasions that have write so many Letters even to remote places to know the certainty of things reported that imploy others to inquire out the truth where I cannot so well do it my self that intreat persons who relate things to me to send the eare witnesses and proofs to me that reject many reports of things which may be true and are reported with much confidence because I cānot see a full proof of them that I should decline to speak with those who send to me to satisfie me in the truth of things and whom I own to be godly No this is utterly false a very legend against my genius and constant course of proceeding in this work I taking much content in searching all wayes to be satisfied in the truth of things related me or in their falsenesse that so I may not by printing any thing mistaken give an occasion to the questioning of the truth of those things that are undoubtedly true and for further satisfacttou to the Reader there was no such thing why could not the parties themselves come