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A04214 A defence of a treatise touching the sufferings and victorie of Christ in the worke of our redemption Wherein in confirmed, 1 That Christ suffered for vs, not only bodily griefe, but also in his soule an impression of the proper wrath of God, which may be called the paines of Hell. 2 That after his death on the crosse he went not downe into Hell. For answere to the late writings of Mr Bilson, L. Bishop of Winchester, which he intitleth, The effect of certaine sermons, &c. Wherein he striueth mightly against the doctrine aforesaid. By Henry Iacob minister of the worde of God. Jacob, Henry, 1563-1624. 1600 (1600) STC 14333; ESTC S103093 208,719 214

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there_o till_o his_o resurrection_n which_o our_o synod_n since_o very_o profitable_o have_v overskip_v and_o suppress_v first_o then_o yourself_o grant_v that_o our_o late_a synod_n correct_v the_o former_a about_o this_o matter_n which_o in_o my_o word_n you_o can_v endure_v to_o hear_v 2._o you_o charge_v these_o word_n of_o k._n edw._n synod_n with_o 2._o point_n which_o be_v not_o in_o they_o 1._o that_o it_o say_v how_o the_o spirit_n of_o the_o just_a be_v in_o hell_n and_o that_o christ_n descend_v thither_o stay_v there_o till_o his_o resurrection_n in_o i_o you_o will_v make_v this_o a_o great_a matter_n so_o to_o misreport_v the_o word_n of_o a_o synod_n which_o in_o deed_n say_v nothing_o hereof_o 3._o it_o be_v well_o that_o you_o *_o renounce_v that_o of_o peter_n 3.19_o 〈◊〉_d 22._o ●●_o 3.19_o by_o augustine_n direction_n as_o make_v not_o at_o all_o for_o any_o local_a be_v of_o christ_n in_o hell_n but_o yet_o herein_o yourself_o open_o refuse_v the_o mind_n of_o all_o 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christ_n for_o ever_o rom._n 16.17_o finis_fw-la pagin_n lin._n fault_n correction_n 13._o in_o mark_fw-mi pag._n 8._o pag._n 7._o 23._o 37._o he_o they_o 24._o 2._o their_o the_o 27._o 29._o will_v well_o 36._o 22._o in_o mark_fw-mi your_o you_fw-mi 49._o 24._o ne_fw-fr  _fw-fr 57_o 7._o herefore_o heretofore_o 65._o 28._o external_o eternal_o 65._o 8._o better_a buter_n 77._o in_o mark_fw-mi b_o pag._n 51.55_o b_o pag_n 71.73_o 103._o 33._o torment_n torment_n yet_o no_o only_a to_o it_o the_o diverse_a signification_n of_o the_o greek_a word_n hades_n which_o be_v ha●●_n according_a to_o the_o circunstance_n of_o the_o place_n where_o it_o be_v use_v see_v pag._n 177._o whereunto_o also_o the_o hebrew_n sheol_n may_v be_v right_o compare_v hades_n a_o mere_a privation_n of_o this_o visible_a world_n no_o visible_a be_v here_o any_o more_o pa._n 157._o etc._n etc._n 169._o 178._o apply_v native_o seldom_o yet_o sometime_o to_o all_o visible_a transitory_a thing_n when_o they_o be_v destroy_v from_o out_o of_o this_o world_n &_o be_v see_v here_o no_o more_o pag._n 188._o etc._n etc._n often_o &_o chief_o to_o dead_a man_n yea_o to_o all_o dead_a man_n both_o good_a and_o bad_a bless_a and_o damn_a pag._n 155_o etc._n etc._n yet_o only_o in_o respect_n that_o they_o be_v dead_a and_o see_v no_o more_o in_o this_o world_n pag._n 156_o 162._o 166._o 169_o 177._o 178._o thus_o sometime_o it_o signify_v concern_v they_o that_o which_o take_v they_o away_o hence_o and_o hold_v they_o still_o pa._n 169._o 179._o 181._o 192._o either_o death_n itself_o pa._n 161._o 1st_a the_o power_n strength_n 〈◊〉_d force_n of_o death_n pag_n 194._o their_o state_n and_o condition_n pa._n 171._o 175._o 178_o viz_n of_o their_o whole_a person_n dissolve_v and_o take_v away_o hence_o pa._n 158._o 177._o part_n both_o soul_n pa._n 155._o &_o body_n pa._n 201._o place_v pa._n 173._o 181._o in_o respect_n of_o the_o dissolve_a pa●tes_n so_o 〈◊〉_d as_o they_o have_v a_o be_v somewhere_o in_o a_o place_n after_o death_n no_o positive_a thing_n in_o any_o place_n but_o mere_a privation_n as_o be_v say_v from_o thi●_n visible_a world_n figurative_o by_o a_o poetical_a fiction_n make_v it_o sometime_o as_o it_o be_v a_o place_n of_o thing_n which_o in_o truth_n have_v no_o be_v nor_o place_v after_o they_o cease_v to_o be_v here_o pag._n 188._o prosopopoeia_fw-la lawful_o set_v out_o the_o power_n of_o death_n or_o of_o destruction_n from_o hence_o as_o if_o it_o be_v a_o person_n have_v this_o power_n pa._n 182._o 179._o 192._o idolatrous_o make_v such_o a_o imagine_a person_n a_o false_a god_n 173._o 179._o synécdoche_n &_o so_o it_o be_v sometime_o hell_n pag._n 187._o 171._o heaven_n in_o plato_n pag._n 178._o the_o grave_a pag._n 159._o