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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A93044	Truth prevailing against the fiercest opposition being a vindication of Dr. Russel's True narrative of the Portsmouth disputation ... Also, a sermon upon Mat. 28. 19. by Mr. John Williams ... As also An answer to the Presbyterian dialogue, by another hand / published by Mr. John Sharp ... who was moderator at the disputation in Portsmouth.	Sharp, John, of Froome, Somersetshire.; Williams, John, minister.	1700 (1700)	Wing S3005; ESTC R217599	120,924	184

Country WHereas it is render'd doubtful by the Presbyterian Ministers in their account of the Portsmouth Disputation whether William Russel be a Graduate Doctor in Physick of the famous University of Cambridg These are to certify whom it may concern that we whose Names are under-written have seen his Diploma with the Seal of that University thereunto affixed and concluding with these words Dat. Cantabr in Senatu nostro Given in our Senate at Cambridg June 11. 1688. Witness our Hands William Salmon Francis Salmon John Wells James Halsey Edward Jarvis John Sharpe I have also seen a Book entituled A Register of the Doctors of Physick in our two Vniversities of Cambridg and Oxford Printed Anno 1695. diligently and carefully collected out of the Registers of both those Universities beginning at 1659. and ending with 1694 inclusive With the Names of those that were created Doctors in Physick during that time which is 35 years placed both in an Annual and Alphabetical Order In both which I find Dr. William Russel's Name inserted in its due place and order From whence it is evident that Dr. Russel is in the right and themselves in the wrong And also it serves to discover another mistake of theirs which they through their ignorance charge upon him viz. for saying the Senate at Cambridg which they call a word of his own coining and do greatly ridicule him for it whereas it appears by his own Diploma that the Vice-Chancellor Doctors and Heads of Colleges c. when assembled do call themselves a Senate Besides the Doctor doth assure me that the King's Letter was thus directed To our Trusty and Well-beloved the Vice-Chancellor of our University of Cambridg to be communicated to the Senate there So that it appears to me it is the common Appellation given to them as that of Convocation else-where altho these Men are so ignorant as not to know it or so malicious against the Doctor as not to allow it him It therefore gives cause of doubting whether either of them ever saw in a true and proper sense the inside of any University in their Lives Here follows Mr. Bowes's Letter wherein he hath vindicated himself from Mr. Chandler's unjust and scandalous Reflections From Stubinton Sept. 29th 1699. Much honoured and beloved Brother Russel to whom Grace Mercy and Peace be multiplied through our Lord Jesus Christ THese Lines come from your Brother in the Faith of our Lord Jesus Thomas Bowes and are to inform you of the horrid Falsities that are inserted in Mr. Chandler's pretended Narrative which he would fain have the World believe is impartial tho indeed it is no such thing which I hope will evidently appear to all Men who are not prejudiced especially when the falseness of what he hath writ concerning me and others is made manifest For if he will adventure so grosly to belie his Neighbours who can disprove him and have opposed him to his face no wonder if he belie the Dispute it self and the Disputants rather than hazard his own Interest which seemeth to lie at stake I shall now give you an account of those things in particular concerning me which may be found in his Book that are most notoriously false And take them as followeth viz. In his Introduction near the latter end he is bold to assert That I and my Party did suspend from our Communion one Isaac Harman a Joyner for hearing Mr. Webber which is horridly false For there was never any such-thing acted by me and my Party in this World towards that young Man nor any other Person for going to hear Mr. Webber This Man hath but little regard to Truth it self that he can boldly charge this notorious Falshood upon me and my Party without being able to produce his Author for it when it was required of him He hath indeed confidently asserted that the young Man told him so himself But the truth of this is like some of the rest of his impartial Narrative For the young Man went himself with one of our Friends with him to the Meeting where Mr. Chandler had been preaching and there charged him with the falsness of what he had written to his face before many of his Hearers and did then offer to attest upon Oath that he never had one word of Discourse with him in all his life time neither about that nor any thing else And Mr. Chandler did consess before those then present that he could not say he had Yet so unchristian-like was their Carriage to him that at his first appearance Mr. Williams the Presbyterian Minister bawl'd out and said Where is this Man that fears neither God nor Devil To whom the young Man replied that he had a Soul to be saved as well as Mr. Williams and did fear God as well as himself But that well qualified Man Mr. Chandler did in his fury lay hands on him in such sort that his own Hearers cry'd out Pray Mr. Chandler do not strike him But alas this great flood of Heat was soon turn'd into the cold ebb of Dissimulation when they saw that way of stirring made them stink For the next Evening Mr. Williams sent one of his Hearers to Isaac Harman and desired him that he would come to his House and have some talk with him in a moderate way and did acknowledg he was sorry that he should carry himself in such a passionate way to him the night before To this the young Man complied and went to his House where Mr. Williams treated him with many hollow Compliments Now it was Mr. Harman But the night before he cried out that he neither feared God nor Devil But when he saw he could not obtain his end by Flattery he told the young Man he would have him put into the Post-Boy But I wonder Mr. Chandler should be so forward to ride Post since the baseness of his Horse and his own Infirmities have so often brought him to the ground But again in his Introduction he is pleased to charge me with no less than four more as great Lies as is possible for any Man to pen. For 1. He asserteth that I applied my self to Mr. Ring for a sight of those Sermons which he had writ which is utterly false 2. He is bold to say that I read them which is a horrid Falshood for I never read them in all my life time 3. He saith I having read them spake words to this effect viz. That if we suffer Mr. Chandler thus to go on it will prejudice our Cause But this is as false as any of the rest For I never spake those words to Mr. Ring no nor to that effect which Mr. Ring must witness if he be not biass'd and will but speak the Truth But if he will not they that were with me at that time will justify that I spake no such words nor to that effect And it is as false that Mr. Ring replied Mr. Chandler takes but the same liberty in his own Congregation that we

do in ours for he never replied so to me But perhaps Mr. Ring will give him leave to bely him and the Truth it self rather than by opposing him hazard his own Interest and the loss of a Place at his Lecture But I shall not give him leave so to bely me tho indeed he hath the Confidence to take it 4. And lastly tho indeed these are not all the Lies he is guilty of concerning me yet I hope it will be the last time he will venture so grosly to abuse me and so greatly to sin against God Mr. Chandler doth also tell the World that I was a Man dissatisfied and went over to Gosport to Mr. Webber which is a notorious Lie for I never went to Mr. Webber nor ever sent to him about the Disputation first nor last Yet this Man would have the World believe that what he hath written is Truth and so deceive himself and them too in the end that hearken to him For nothing can be more false concerning me than what he hath writ for Truth and therefore I shall charge those Lies upon Mr. Chandler as some of his own inventing till he doth produce his Authors which I believe is as hard to bring forth as the young Man that told him he was suspended and asked his Advice about it for as yet he is invisible And I cannot imagine where he will find Authors for such Forgeries unless he bespeak them For I can attest upon Oath that all those things are utterly false and groundless and therefore ought not to be called Mistakes unless there had been something in them Again he is also pleased to say that if I could believe the Doctrine of Original Sin as they believe it I should think Infants had need of Baptism And that I wonder'd that the People at Gosport should be against it Now whatever I did say I can safely declare that I never spake what Mr. Chandler hath written And so I told him to his face and did offer to make my Oath of it For if I had said what they have written I should have wronged my own Conscience in saying that which I did not then believe nor do yet believe but I am sure that he hath wronged himself and me also in saying and writing that which I did not nor could not speak But alas any thing that does but drop from the Goose-quill of this Man tho it be never so false is good enough to please those that follow him with whom I leave him till the Judgment Day of the great God where he and I must give account of all things But if he in the mean time hath any thing to object I am his Neighbour and shall be ready to make good what I have charged upon him by more than a single Testimony Witness my hand Thomas Bowes Here follows a further Testimony signed by the principal Brethren of the Church at Portsmouth to prove Mr. Chandler a false Accuser in what he hath printed about Isaac Harman WE whose Names are under-written do testify That Isaac Harman was not suspended from our Communion for hearing Mr. Webber preach nor for any thing else Witness our hands Thomas Bowes Isaac Harman Edward Fishbourn James Goodeve William Oakely Walter Addis George Kelley Mr. William Leddel of Gosport's Vindication Here follows an account of those Mistakes and Falshoods they have presumed to charge Mr. Leddel with and his Vindication of himself therefrom SIR HAving received your Letter I can do no other than reply for my self I was willing to contradict that prophetick Remonstrance of being charged to be a Man of Heat without Light And should I at first sight have declared my thoughts of their Proceedings I might perhaps have written passionately considering how they have endeavoured to cloud that which through Providence hath so many Evidences to the contrary I believe Truth will have its time to be made apparent I shall not say much as to what past in the Disputation but rather endeavour to acquit my self from Forgery which I am charged with especially with relation to what Mr. Smith hath said in his Certificate or Testimonial which he hath inserted in the 60th Page of Mr. Chandler's Mr. Leigh's and Mr. Robinson's impartial Account as they call it of the Portsmouth Disputation Blame me not for putting him last who should have been first because not nominated in the Preliminaries and Mr. Leigh comes in by chance But as to what Mr. Smith hath there declared to the World some of it was then said but not in that form nor at all to that purpose except that Clause wherein he now lets the World know he had an imperfect Account For having accidentally met with Mr. Smith at his own Habitation he was pleased to thank me for putting his Name in print which I then took as an Ironical Speech I then discovered to him the place where the words were spoken but could not perfectly remember the day of the Month whereupon he concluded that if I did he had forgotten it but I hope his forgetfulness is not Argument sufficient to prove I did not And this I can say that altho there was but one time that I so directly desired the sight of his Copy to compare it with that I had yet both before and after I desired the sight of his and at that time I told him the reason thereof which he also in his Certificate or Testimonial denies Yet altho he hath forgotten the other times wherein I desired him to let me see his Copy or see it when it was done this does not prove it a Lie or that he was never spoken to about it For if it had been so what cause was there for that needless Excuse of Mr. Leigh that it not being transcribed was not fit to be compar'd because I might take advantage therefrom and that such things ought not to be communicated to an Enemy As if it could not be compared with the Copy that I had nor to such a Person whom they knew was adverse and would improve what was there related to their advantage I must ingenuously confess I did not tell him it would be printed but I then told him I knew not but it would be printed tho I was not then positive my self Now if Mr. Smith would but recollect his Memory he might call to mind that I spoke oftner to him than that time in his Shop It 's true that about two or three days after the Disputation I was willing for Peace sake the whole should have been buried But to return to Mr. Smith I cannot but wonder what should protect him in giving the World that account of the Anabaptists loose and shuffling way of arguing which gave such Interruption to the better taking of what past in the Dispute I cannot but retort this upon him the Anabaptists so called might have had as civil Treament among Heathens But that Mr. Smith should insinuate that he retorted this to me and received no

from Scripture for Infant-Baptism we cannot expect that any body else should And yet all the Answer they gave was to tell us this is only a Trick to turn off the Opponency notwithstanding I told them the direct contrary Surely this is no better than tricking in them thus to fence against those solid Reasons and Arguments that none of them are able to answer and yet have the confidence to tell the World in print p. 66. That all the Arguments we offer'd were trifling Cavils Is this your Impartial Account 38. Here they have left out several things that past betwixt me and Mr. Chandler which they have past over with a total silence because they did not make for their Cause but against it Is not this great partiality 39. They bring in Mr. Robinson saying If you can proceed no farther upon this then it 's time you go on Now this is also untrue neither is there one word of it in Mr. Ring 's Copy But the words he saith I told them are these If you will say no more to this I will proceed to another Argument And they know right-well that I urg'd this That if Mr. Chandler would confess he had no Instance to give I would then proceed to a new Argument And further that upon his refusal so to do I did challenge the rest of them to give an Instance and provok'd them to it telling them That if they refused to do it the People would think they had none to give And yet none of them could be prevail'd upon to do it Whereupon I spake to this effect Gentlemen it may be you think I have but one Argument If you will say no more to this I am not willing to tire the Auditory I will therefore proceed to a new Argument But take notice by the way that my first Argument stands good till you give your Instance to the contrary And all this they wholly omitted in their printed Account because perhaps they thought it would have been sufficiently evidenced how shamefully they had been baffled and put to silence before the People for want of one single Instance for their practice Here I desire the Reader to take notice that I am not yet fully advanced so far as three Leaves and a half in their printed Account of the Disputation and having discover'd so many Errors in so little a compass it amazes me to think what was become of these Mens-Consciences who could contrive an Account to publish to the World with so small regard to Truth and Fidelity when at the same time they send it forth with that plausible pretence of An Impartial Account What may the Reader expect to find in the whole body of it if there be so many Faults in the very Entrance But I have other Business than to attend to the remarking of all they say of this kind for if I should do that I must write a much bigger Volume than is proper upon this occasion there being so many Errors committed by them throughout the whole of their Book In p. 65. they confess that Mr. Fox was baptized by dipping He was dipp'd say they not at Gosport but Havant It is not said by Mr. Duke that he was dipp'd at Gosport that observation therefore was needless but that he was dipp'd they confess which is the thing asserted by him But they say 't is false that it was done by Mr. Chandler's advice for he was then at London Now it doth not follow that Mr. Chandler did not give such advice because he was as he saith then at London for I have receiv'd a Testimony to prove it under the hands of two Witnesses Mr. Leddell writes thus I shall further annex one Testimony touching Mr. Fox which was spoken the same day the Preliminaries were made out of Mr. Chandler's own Mouth which take as followeth WE being enquiring Why they should deny our Practice and yet practise it themselves We then had and several times since have had this Concession from them That to satisfy a scrupulous Conscience they could dip any Adult Believer upon profession of Faith And Mr. Chandler did there confess that Mr. Earle had advice for the so baptizing of Mr. Fox in a Letter from him from London And this tho it may not be in the very words is the substance of the Matter then spoken in our hearing who were present at Mr. Williams's House in Portsmouth the 23d of December 1698. William Leddell Edward Fishbourn I would further note That they might have spared their Reflection upon our Brother Duke if they had but minded these words in my Dedication And by another hand I have this Account And after all they thus express themselves in their own printed Account pag. 65. But that none of us would refuse to dip a Person in such a case is true We never pleading against Dipping as one way but as the only way not against its Lawfulness but Necessity How doth this agree with what Mr. Leigh saith in pag. 51. I deny that the word Baptize signifies to dip in any place of Scripture But seeing Mr. Sharp hath already spoken to it I shall pass it by I shall remark one thing more and that is That these Gentlemen are pleased to reflect upon me about speaking false Greek As they have also done upon Mr. John Gosnold by saying I abuse him in it when they are his very words I recite and the same words used Heb. 6. 2. So that rather than I shall escape their Lash the Apostle Paul whose words they are must also be whipt till he learn better if he come under the tuterage of their unmannerly Pedagogue What do these Men think no body understand Greek but themselves But after all tho they do not charge me with printing any false Greek in my Narrative as I perceive yet they would perswade the World that I have got an Art to form Greek Letters in the Air so that they can discern them when I express them with my Voice And in order to convince their Reader they have put down those Greek words wrong in their Narrative which are printed truly in mine but falsly in theirs But any thing to render me ignorant and ridiculous serves these mens turn tho never so false in it self But if I were really as ignorant as they represent me to be as Mr. Sharp hath already told them I had been the more easily confuted I shall therefore commit what I have written to the Judgment of the Learned and Impartial Reader declaring to the World That my Narrative is much more impartial than theirs and the best I knew how to publish which they have only marr'd and not mended To conclude Seeing this is so why doth Mr. Chandler p. 19. say that if we will keep strictly to the significancy of a Burial the Person baptized must not walk into the Water but be taken up by the Baptizer and thrown into it for indeed we baptize the Face saith he and they