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A39312 Truth prevailing and detecting error, or, An answer to a book mis-called, A friendly conference between a minister and a parishioner of his, inclining to Quakerism, &c. by Thomas Ellwood. Ellwood, Thomas, 1639-1713. 1676 (1676) Wing E630; ESTC R15648 157,165 374

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